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It has the lowest Rotten Tomato rating of his 3 movies, but it's still over 80%.

Even if flawed I do appreciate unique - I've just seen too many movies - and I do think Peele has unique elements in his films.
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Was a good movie with a couple of legitimately frightening scenes early on.
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I think he's going to have a career kind of like M. Night Shyamalan where he starts with a couple of good but overhyped movies and subsequent movies prove to be pretty stale. PC critics will be hesitant to do their job and critically analyze his movies.
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I enjoyed that. To me it felt like Twilight Zone meets Signs, with a dash of OUATIH for good measure. In fact there was a lot of stuff that felt very Tarantino-esque in this movie, with the multiple storylines, flashbacks, title cards, as well as being about Hollywood/filmmaking. (And I'm a sucker for those types of movies/shows.)

Spoiler stuff below...

The chimp scene was by far the scariest thing in this whole movie to me. However one thing I'm not super clear on is the context of the whole alien/western park situation. So you're telling me this dude had regular interaction with an alien entity and somehow it's never made the national news? Or Oprah? Did I miss something there?

I'll say the funniest thing in the whole movie was small spoiler: TMZ guy flying off his motorcycle. **** TMZ.
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I definitely see the jaws comparison. Build up was a little slow in the first 2 acts, but after seeing the final act it did a good job of building the mystery and suspense. The final Act had me on the edge of my seat for some scenes.

Very good overall.
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Time to check out of the thread, see yall in a few weeks when I can catch this one!
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Eh. The Jaws comparison makes sense, but I was hoping for so much more. The Mrs. liked it a lot more. There were some scary scenes but it did feel a bit disjointed as Peele approached more of the Tarantino style.
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I am gonna preface that I am a huge fan of Peele and think Get out and Us are some of my favorite horror films ever.

Wtf was this movie? How does something that is executed so well and creeped me out so much leave me wondering what the **** was smoked to get to that ending. And I don't understand Yeun and the Chimp. I am not usually bothered by endings if most of the movie is great but I am just kind of disappointed.
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Really enjoyed it. Thought it was beautiful and tense and entertaining and weird af.

Didn't really understand it, but I like movies that are well done and make me want to do some research.

Will definitely have nightmares about Gordy.
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Yo **** gordy. Really enjoyed the 2nd half. There's a lot to unpack that I don't get yet but the 2nd half was visually amazing for me and just spectacular.
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Well, that was... certainly something.

Parts of it were legitimately funny, the cinematography was incredible, Keke Palmer was fantastic, the big reveal was... original... but overall, most of it just didn't work for me. The more I've sat with it, the more I appreciate parts of it, but walking out of the theater I wasn't a fan at all.

I'm all for weird and random and taking chances, but when everything feel *this* random and thrown together, it's hard for me to get onboard. Most notably, I'm 100% with Saxsoon in that the entire Gordy plot line, while creepy and disturbing as hell, made no sense whatsoever, and might as well have been in an entirely different movie. That was easily the biggest WTF, but so many other elements felt just as haphazard.

That, and it took forever to truly get going. It'd be one thing if that time was spent better-establishing the struggles of the characters, but I just didn't feel like I knew these people at all. For instance, I heard someone on a podcast talking about how Daniel Kaluuya's character was all about standing his ground and keeping his family's ranch, no matter what terrors he had to face, and all I could do was wonder if we saw the same movie. Because that was maybe a couple lines of dialogue and that's it. Otherwise, I would have loved to have seen that movie. But instead, what we got was this quiet, mumbling, no-personality, zero-charisma lead who didn't feel particularly motivated to do much of anything except react to what was right in front of him. Further, why not put Keke Palmer's character in more of a hole/predicament at the outset - or at least underline what little Peele did give us - in order to show her desperation to do what she sets out to do? In other words, why not spend all that time better-establishing the stakes in a more empathic, character-driven manner?

Honestly, I'm baffled by the level of praise Peele gets. His movies just don't gel for me. His themes are either super on-the-nose (Get Out), cripple the plot, along with all sense of logic (Us), or are so muddled and all over the place that I have no f-ing clue what he's trying to say or what he's even attempting to explore (Nope). Again, I love that he swings for the fences, goes off the beaten path, etc. But the "genius"/"greatest horror director of all time" talk I see online is just insane to me, to the point where I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. It's like a bunch of people started using words like "brilliant" to describe him because one person did and then everyone else felt like they were supposed to, and some of them might even believe it, but it all rings so hollow to me. Peele is talented, no doubt, and seems like a great guy, but if I hear one more person compare him to Spielberg or John Carpenter I think I'm going to scream.

I don't know, maybe this is one I'll end up appreciating more down the line. But right now there are so many issues I can't get over, like the grab-bag, see-what-sticks nature of it all, how hard it is to distill down to something you could actually recommend to someone (seriously, the plot is insane to describe), and an ending that doesn't at all jibe with what feels like the theme of the movie (or at least one of the potential themes of the movie, who knows).

I don't at all begrudge anyone for enjoying the movie - I definitely had fun with it at times as well - but ultimately, the best thing about the night for me, personally, was sitting next to Samara Weaving, despite her lame husband being there as well. Otherwise, a pretty underwhelming experience.
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Well sitting next to Samara made your experience infinitely more engaging than mine you piece of ****
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TCTTS said:

Well, that was... certainly something.

Parts of it were legitimately funny, the cinematography was incredible, Keke Palmer was fantastic, the big reveal was... original... but overall, most of it just didn't work for me. Admittedly, the more I've sat with it, the more I appreciate parts of it, but immediately walking out of the theater I wasn't a fan at all.

I'm all for weird and random and taking chances, but when the elements feel *this* random and thrown together, it's hard for me to get onboard. Most notably, I'm 100% with Saxsoon in that the inclusion of the entire Gordy plot line, while creepy and disturbing as hell, made no sense whatsoever, and might as well have been in an entirely different movie. That was easily the biggest WTF, but so many other elements felt just as haphazard and piecemeal.

That, and it took forever to truly get going. It'd be one thing if that time was spent better-establishing the struggles of the characters, but I just didn't feel like I knew these people at all. For instance, I heard someone on a podcast talking about how Daniel Kaluuya's character was all about standing his ground and keeping his family's ranch, no matter what terrors he had to face, and all I could do was wonder if we saw the same movie. Because that was maybe a line of dialogue and that's it. Otherwise, I would have loved to have seen that movie. But instead, what we got was this quiet, mumbling, no-personality, zero-charisma lead who didn't feel particularly motivated to do much of anything except react to what was right in front of him. Further, why not put Keke Palmer's character in more of a hole/predicament at the outset - or at least underline what little Peele did give us - in order to show her desperation to do what she sets out to do? In other words, why not spend all that time better-establishing the stakes in a more empathic, character-driven manner?

Honestly, I'm baffled by the level of praise Peele gets. His movies just don't gel for me. His themes are either super on-the-nose (Get Out), cripple the plot, along with all sense of logic (Us), or are so muddled and all over the place that I have no f-ing clue what he's trying to say or what he's even attempting to explore (Nope). Again, I love that he swings for the fences, goes off the beaten path, etc. But the "genius"/"greatest horror director of all time" talk I see online is just insane to me, to the point where I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. It's like a bunch of people started using words like "brilliant" to describe him because one person did and then everyone else felt like they were supposed to, and some of them might even believe it, but it all rings so hollow to me. Peele is talented, no doubt, and seems like a great guy, but if I hear one more person compare him to Spielberg or John Carpenter I think I'm going to scream.

I don't know, maybe this is one I'll end up appreciating more down the line. But right now there are so many issues I can't get over, like the grab-bag, see-what-sticks nature of it all, how hard it is to distill down to something you could actually recommend to someone (seriously, the plot is insane to describe), and an ending that doesn't at all jibe with what feels like the theme of the movie (or at least one of the potential themes of the movie who knows).

I don't at all begrudge anyone for enjoying the movie - I definitely had fun with it at times as well - but ultimately, the best thing about the night for me, personally, was sitting next to Samara Weaving, despite her lame husband being there as well. Otherwise, a pretty underwhelming experience.


What makes her husband lame?
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So I THINK the Gordy stuff was meant to tie in thematically with what he's doing at his park, it just wasn't immediately clear in the theater.

Basically, Yeung's character had avoided being killed because he was friends with Gordy, and didn't try to challenge or stop him. And with that fist bump, he felt they still somehow understood each other, maybe like he could've tamed Gordy. This is essentially what he was trying to do with the alien later on in his life. But why it decided to finally attack, I'm not sure. Or why Yeung's character decided to look it in the eye.
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Him surviving the gordy situation and profiting off it gave him the motivation/belief he could do the same. What really saves him is the lack of eye contact (table cloth). OJ avoiding eye contact from the start of the movie is definitely intentional. There's a lot of stuff I haven't pieced together yet but I am of the firm belief that absolutely none of this is random and all of it is purposeful. There's a lot of on the nose symbolism (reflections being frightening, black and white horses behaving in opposite manner, the coins and keys) but I honestly haven't pieced together much of it but I don't think that's bad.

To me the movie worked on a very straightforward level but I also know there's more there.

Edit I put spoiler tags but honestly if you haven't seen this movie why are you here.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

So I THINK the Gordy stuff was meant to tie in thematically with what he's doing at his park, it just wasn't immediately clear in the theater.

Basically, Yeung's character had avoided being killed because he was friends with Gordy, and didn't try to challenge or stop him. And with that fist bump, he felt they still somehow understood each other, maybe like he could've tamed Gordy. This is essentially what he was trying to do with the alien later on in his life. But why it decided to finally attack, I'm not sure. Or why Yeung's character decided to look it in the eye.
I get it, but that is a lot a lot of screentime for stuff that could honestly be left out and be chalked up to general hubris / hollywood greed
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I still can't believe this thing turned out to be an eldritch blimp
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Saxsoon said:

TCTTS said:

Well, that was... certainly something.

Parts of it were legitimately funny, the cinematography was incredible, Keke Palmer was fantastic, the big reveal was... original... but overall, most of it just didn't work for me. Admittedly, the more I've sat with it, the more I appreciate parts of it, but immediately walking out of the theater I wasn't a fan at all.

I'm all for weird and random and taking chances, but when the elements feel *this* random and thrown together, it's hard for me to get onboard. Most notably, I'm 100% with Saxsoon in that the inclusion of the entire Gordy plot line, while creepy and disturbing as hell, made no sense whatsoever, and might as well have been in an entirely different movie. That was easily the biggest WTF, but so many other elements felt just as haphazard and piecemeal.

That, and it took forever to truly get going. It'd be one thing if that time was spent better-establishing the struggles of the characters, but I just didn't feel like I knew these people at all. For instance, I heard someone on a podcast talking about how Daniel Kaluuya's character was all about standing his ground and keeping his family's ranch, no matter what terrors he had to face, and all I could do was wonder if we saw the same movie. Because that was maybe a line of dialogue and that's it. Otherwise, I would have loved to have seen that movie. But instead, what we got was this quiet, mumbling, no-personality, zero-charisma lead who didn't feel particularly motivated to do much of anything except react to what was right in front of him. Further, why not put Keke Palmer's character in more of a hole/predicament at the outset - or at least underline what little Peele did give us - in order to show her desperation to do what she sets out to do? In other words, why not spend all that time better-establishing the stakes in a more empathic, character-driven manner?

Honestly, I'm baffled by the level of praise Peele gets. His movies just don't gel for me. His themes are either super on-the-nose (Get Out), cripple the plot, along with all sense of logic (Us), or are so muddled and all over the place that I have no f-ing clue what he's trying to say or what he's even attempting to explore (Nope). Again, I love that he swings for the fences, goes off the beaten path, etc. But the "genius"/"greatest horror director of all time" talk I see online is just insane to me, to the point where I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. It's like a bunch of people started using words like "brilliant" to describe him because one person did and then everyone else felt like they were supposed to, and some of them might even believe it, but it all rings so hollow to me. Peele is talented, no doubt, and seems like a great guy, but if I hear one more person compare him to Spielberg or John Carpenter I think I'm going to scream.

I don't know, maybe this is one I'll end up appreciating more down the line. But right now there are so many issues I can't get over, like the grab-bag, see-what-sticks nature of it all, how hard it is to distill down to something you could actually recommend to someone (seriously, the plot is insane to describe), and an ending that doesn't at all jibe with what feels like the theme of the movie (or at least one of the potential themes of the movie who knows).

I don't at all begrudge anyone for enjoying the movie - I definitely had fun with it at times as well - but ultimately, the best thing about the night for me, personally, was sitting next to Samara Weaving, despite her lame husband being there as well. Otherwise, a pretty underwhelming experience.


What makes her husband lame?


He told TC to STFU when TC was trying to seduce his wife by explaining how he is the entertainment guru of a college message board.
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I thought it was great
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You know TC, you might have enjoyed the movie more and not get lost in genius that is Jordan Peele if you hadn't been so distracted by Samara Weaving
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lololol...

Jordan Peele makes really well done, retahrded movies
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Sex Panther said:

lololol...

Jordan Peele makes really well done, retahrded movies
Yeah, this was a total goat screw. I think I fell asleep at three times in the first two acts. My lord that was boring. Then I was mad at myself that I didn't sleep through the third act. I have literally no idea what anyone was trying to accomplish with this beautifully filmed complete POS movie.

A big ass flying butt hole that ultimately turns in to a giant flying tarp and dies after trying to eat a big ass rubber Sheriff Woody

Seriously, what did I just waste $50 taking my teenage sons too. They were literally LOL'ing on how bad this was and the fact that dad kept nodding off. Not my fault, it was that boring.
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So as to not be a complete Debbie Downer on Hollywood, the wife and I saw Elvis recently and I will say it is far and beyond the best I have seen in the theatre since Dec 2019. Great movie. Disclaimer - have not seen Maverick yet but will.
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If you had the chance to take your teenage sons to see Top Gun and took them to see NOPE, I'm calling CPS in the morning
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Urban Ag said:

Sex Panther said:

lololol...

Jordan Peele makes really well done, retahrded movies
Yeah, this was a total goat screw. I think I fell asleep at three times in the first two acts. My lord that was boring. Then I was mad at myself that I didn't sleep through the third act. I have literally no idea what anyone was trying to accomplish with this beautifully filmed complete POS movie.

A big ass flying butt hole that ultimately turns in to a giant flying tarp and dies after trying to eat a big ass rubber Sheriff Woody

Seriously, what did I just waste $50 taking my teenage sons too. They were literally LOL'ing on how bad this was and the fact that dad kept nodding off. Not my fault, it was that boring.
You fell asleep three times in a movie and didn't understand what was going on? Weird!
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I'm joking of course, because I stayed awake through the whole thing and didn't really understand it. I enjoyed it though! To each their own I guess.
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I still have no clue why any of this Gordy stuff exists in the movie...

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If it's thematic, not only is it incredibly overkill, just to connect those dots, but again, it goes *against* the end of the movie. The "lesson" I took from the Gordy stuff is that, ultimately, we can't tame nature/wildlife/etc, nor should we try, especially if we're doing it for our own profit/amusement. And it seems that Steven Yeun's character still doesn't learn that lesson as an adult - he tries yet again to tame nature/wildlife for profit/amusement, and yet again it ends disastrously - which all jibes and lines up. So far, so good. Except that Kaluuya and Palmer's characters are trying to profit off of "taming" the UFO beast just the same, and not only do they succeed in killing it, they're presumably going to profit as well (hence the money shot Palmer's character finally gets). So, again, what was the point of Gordy, if the ending completely ignored Gordy's entire thematic premise? I just don't understand this movie or Peele's intentions AT ALL.
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Wow, this review - more of the script than of the movie itself - is so incredibly spot on. It expands on some of the same issues I had, while pointing out all new ones as well. I feel like I'm really starting to despise just how lazy this story is, and the fact that so many people are still somehow basically like "Peele is a cinematic genius" just makes it all the more annoying…

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Did you see my post above about it?

Edit: Nvm just saw your next post
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Yeah, I don't know if that really addresses the core issue, though, because there's still a big question mark at the end, and it makes my head hurt trying to figure it out. No theme should be this challenging to understand.
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The first 3/4 are some of the best horror/thriller stuff in years. You're really working brain to try to pick clues and figure out what's going on. Some major "Signs" vibes.

That last 1/4 feels like Peele got sick and they had Michael Bay direct it. It didn't match the tone of the rest of the film and was very meh.
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Watched it again this afternoon. I gotta say the ending is still my favorite part. The scenes there are ****ing breathtaking.

When can we talk spoilers in here without using tags? I hate tags. Probably just means I'm lazy but there you are.
 
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