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94AGBQ said:

62strat said:

I think Foos will carry on.

So many successful bands have carried on after losing a member, often times a very key member. ZZ top, AC/DC, Metallica carried on.. etc etc. Foos is Dave's baby, not Dave and Taylor's.
This one might be different. Dave was very close with Taylor. I've been listening to them since their first album and Taylor was the only drummer he trusted to play as well or better than himself. I could very easily see this be the end of the foo fighters. Maybe not, but I could also see dave do some solo stuff instead.
Agreed. In the Australian TV interviews, it's pretty obvious that Taylor Hawkins primary role in the band wasn't drummer but instead, Dave Grohl's best friend / runnin' buddy.
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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

Why in the world is something like that getting deleted? What is going on with this site?
Here you go.

I did not know this but, the Foo Fighters just re-opened the Australian concert scene and played a show in Geelong (Melbourne) back on March 4th.
They were set to go back to Australia in November/December 2022.

Here's a recent Waleed Aly interview for "The Project" on Channel 10 where he talked to Dave Grohl.


It looks like 60 Minutes Australia just re-released their 2017 interview with Dave Grohl and Taylor Hawkins.


FYI - a Long Black is a style of coffee
and Taylor does pronounce Bondi correctly
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maroon barchetta said:

I've been watching a YouTube upload of their Lollapooza concert from March 20 in sections when I sit down to eat or work on my laptop.

It's hard knowing he was close to the end while seeing him just tearing it up on stage and having a blast.
Honestly, you never know when Rock and Rollers are going to be gone.

I had a friend die one night during his show in Reseda. He felt bad, walked off stage and had a brain aneurysm in the dressing room.
I had another friend die on a heavy metal cruise after playing a show earlier that night.

It's one thing if it's a long protracted illness like a Neil Peart or Ronnie James Dio. But, with Rock and Rollers, you never know. When I saw Linkin' Park in Vegas in 2015, I had no idea it would be one of their final US shows.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Warning - the bass player, Jimmy Bain, passes away from lung cancer after this show.
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By the way have not seen it mentioned yet but Taylor was born in Ft. Worth but moved to California when he was young. Just thought it was interesting.



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tk for tu juan said:

Taylor was the studio drummer for half the third album and every album since. Dave was the studio drummer for the first and second album, and half of the third
Unless you're the producer, nobody ever really knows who was on the record.

It's pretty amazing what producers can do these days. Even 30+ years ago when we recorded the Aggie Band album - Recall! Step Off on Hullabaloo!, I know there were a few songs that we never played all the way through. But on the record, it sounds perfect.

I've got a few studio musician friends and one reasonably well known producer in my circle so I've seen some of it first hand. For example, I remember Jimmy Bain telling me that he recorded all of the bass tracks for some band out of Italy for $100/song.

Taylor Hawkins probably was the drummer for all the albums after he joined the band but I'm sure that if they ever had a musical dispute, Dave Grohl would probably re-record any drum parts that weren't exactly the way he wanted them on the record.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:


By the way have not seen it mentioned yet but Taylor was born in Ft. Worth but moved to California when he was young. Just thought it was interesting.
That's how we first started talking when I met him in Osaka. I was wearing a Chuy's t-shirt.
He told me he was from Texas. He was certainly a more legit Texan than me.
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bthotugigem05 said:

I mean Taylor was their drummer for 25+ years and the other dude for like a year and a half.
When I was first introduced to James Kottak as drummer of The Scorpions, I was thinking, this guy isn't the real drummer. He's not Herman Rarebell (who wasn't the first drummer either). Who does this guy think he is?

But after some time, I guess James Kottak really was the drummer for The Scorpions. Kottak was the drummer for 20 years versus 17 years for Rarebell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scorpions_members

In the case of the Foo Fighters, there will probably be some new guy who is no Taylor Hawkins but can play just as well. I'm sure they'll audition 40 guys for that job. Hopefully he or she won't get bullied out of the band like what happened with Jason Newstead of Metallica.
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AgPediRPh said:

I'm sure a lot of people have speculated the same. I won't judge Grohl, but I can't imagine him playing with another drummer. Unfortunately this might be a similar situation as John Bonham
A comparison to Bonzo falls short.
Taylor Hawkins wasn't even the best drummer in the Foo Fighters.

Jason Bonham can play like his dad but by the time Jason grew up enough to take the role, he was on the same crash course as his father and the bandmates didn't want to go through that again.

I got to meet Jason one night in Reseda and I can tell you this, he is legit stone cold sober. Listening to his stories about when he wasn't sober were pretty hilarious.

Since Taylor Hawkins death looks like it's going to lead to a discussion about drug abuse, etc., I can tell you from first hand experience that there are folks out there who claim they're sober but they lie about it. I was out with a keyboard player and guitarist one night in Redondo Beach and that guy had made a big production all night about how he was sober and didn't drink anymore. We got back to his girlfriend's apartment and clink-clink-clink, out come the rails of coke.

Apparently sobriety means different things for different people. One hilarious story this guy told me that I have to share is, he was doing coke with Robin Williams backstage before Williams performance at a Nancy Reagan - Just Say No to Drugs event.
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Let me get a broom and dustpan to sweep up all those names you dropped.
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Taylor Hawkins' death reminds me of the time I was walking the streets and met Al Pacino. Pretty cool experience.
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maroon barchetta said:

Let me get a broom and dustpan to sweep up all those names you dropped.
sheer happenstance

I met all these folks and had all these unusual experiences hanging out with my next door neighbour who told me he was a rock singer and I didn't believe him.

It's a lot easier being a fan than it is being a friend.

The past two years have been tough watching my friends not be able to work. Frankly, a lot of them have had a really tough time wondering when they'll be able to perform again. Concert date changes, venue rule changes, etc.

That could have been what Taylor Hawkins was struggling with too. Although I'm sure he wasn't worried about his next rent payment. Alcohol and drug use was way up during the past two years. Might have been a difficult struggle for him to get back to work. We'll probably never know.
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62strat said:

I think Foos will carry on.

So many successful bands have carried on after losing a member, often times a very key member. ZZ top, AC/DC, Metallica carried on.. etc etc. Foos is Dave's baby, not Dave and Taylor's.
Having seen and listened to enough interviews with Dave he's a guy who has to play music. It's the only way he can both move on and play tribute to his friend. It will be hard, but not playing would hurt him more than anything. Part of me would love to see Dave get behind the drums for the rest of the tour as a tribute to his best friend, he might even find it therapeutic. My heart goes out to him and the rest of the band, having recently lost one of my best friends it's an incredibly difficult thing to get through.
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94AGBQ said:

62strat said:

I think Foos will carry on.

So many successful bands have carried on after losing a member, often times a very key member. ZZ top, AC/DC, Metallica carried on.. etc etc. Foos is Dave's baby, not Dave and Taylor's.


This one might be different. Dave was very close with Taylor. I've been listening to them since their first album and Taylor was the only drummer he trusted to play as well or better than himself. I could very easily see this be the end of the foo fighters. Maybe not, but I could also see dave do some solo stuff instead.
you don't think billy and dusty were close?

Musicians will continue being musicians. There have been times where a band member dies that you think is irreplaceable and the heart and soul of the band, yet the band played on. There are very little exceptions.. namesake of the band being one, like if Dave Matthews died, I'm guessing DMB is over.

Zz top, alice in chains, journey, ac/dc, queen, the dead, skynyrd, the who, the stones, STP, on and on.
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Max Power said:

62strat said:

I think Foos will carry on.

So many successful bands have carried on after losing a member, often times a very key member. ZZ top, AC/DC, Metallica carried on.. etc etc. Foos is Dave's baby, not Dave and Taylor's.
Having seen and listened to enough interviews with Dave he's a guy who has to play music. It's the only way he can both move on and play tribute to his friend. It will be hard, but not playing would hurt him more than anything. Part of me would love to see Dave get behind the drums for the rest of the tour as a tribute to his best friend, he might even find it therapeutic. My heart goes out to him and the rest of the band, having recently lost one of my best friends it's an incredibly difficult thing to get through.
Thats how I see it for Dave. FF basically grew out of him getting studio time and playing by himself after Kurt's death.

He'll continue to make music, but how that is done will be up to the band and whether or not they want to do it under the Foo name.
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This really turned into the "look at me" thread again didn't it?
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62strat said:

94AGBQ said:

62strat said:

I think Foos will carry on.

So many successful bands have carried on after losing a member, often times a very key member. ZZ top, AC/DC, Metallica carried on.. etc etc. Foos is Dave's baby, not Dave and Taylor's.


This one might be different. Dave was very close with Taylor. I've been listening to them since their first album and Taylor was the only drummer he trusted to play as well or better than himself. I could very easily see this be the end of the foo fighters. Maybe not, but I could also see dave do some solo stuff instead.
you don't think billy and dusty were close?

Musicians will continue being musicians. There have been times where a band member dies that you think is irreplaceable and the heart and soul of the band, yet the band played on. There are very little exceptions.. namesake of the band being one, like if Dave Matthews died, I'm guessing DMB is over.

Zz top, alice in chains, journey, ac/dc, queen, the dead, skynyrd, the who, the stones, STP, on and on.
I wasn't saying anything definitive. I just said it might be different. I could see them finding a drummer they respect and moving forward. I could also see them breaking up and Dave going his own way as a solo artist. Who knows? What I do know is that whatever Dave wants, he'll get. He's earned that after all these years.
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This video still cracks me up six years later (when there were serious rumors the band was breaking up):
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bthotugigem05 said:

This video still cracks me up six years later (when there were serious rumors the band was breaking up):
lol the list of singers the band puts together.

It has
"Scott Stapp (the guy from Creed)"

That's funny **** right there!
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Heardle today was an unadvertised tribute.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

bthotugigem05 said:

I mean Taylor was their drummer for 25+ years and the other dude for like a year and a half.

sure but it's not a comparison to him.

It was a comparison to LZ/Bonham and if it would end the band,

LZ only every had 4 members. period.

Foo Fighters has had various 8 different members. 2 drummers, 3 guitarists one that left and came back even. At various times it was a 1 person, 4 person, 5 person and lately a 6 person band. It is not like there have never been changes.

That's all.

And Dave will not stop making music imho. FF is the place for him to do that.

Plant, Page, and Jones also continued making music just not as LZ but that is different.

all imho


One thing to keep in mind in all this, like Taylor and Dave, Bonzo and Plant were best friends, and came up together. No way Plant was going on stage without Bonzo as Led Zeppelin.

I think Dave will start a new band, and Pat retires. Or more likely, Dave just goes solo with maybe Nate along. Goes back to the beginning. IMHO, in Dave's mind (similar to Plant), the Foos WERE him and Taylor. Without the other, it's something else.
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Hard to say what Dave will decide. Nate has been with Foos the longest. Taylor was only in the band a couple years longer than Chris (97' vs 99'). Granted, Taylor and Dave seemed to have the closest bond.

I tend to think they will continue after some sort of hiatus.
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Capstone said:

Hard to say what Dave will decide. Nate has been with Foos the longest. Taylor was only in the band a couple years longer than Chris (97' vs 99'). Granted, Taylor and Dave seemed to have the closest bond.

I tend to think they will continue after some sort of hiatus.


Agreed. Really an unknown. I also think they continue but he could do some solo who knows.
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The band just confirmed the rest of the tour is canceled.
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FOO FIGHTERS Announce 'Taylor Hawkins Tribute Concerts' In London And Los Angeles
 
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