TCTTS said:

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This is before it eventually hits Apple TV+…

Martin Scorsese’s ‘KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON’ will be available to purchase on digital and on-demand streaming beginning Tuesday, December 5. pic.twitter.com/JFtgxZWFdm

— Film Updates (@FilmUpdates) December 4, 2023

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Now available to rent as well, on all digital platforms. $19.99.

Just rented this on Apple TV. Thought it was pretty good, but like others have said it was probably a bit too long.

I'm gonna agree with several of the other posters that also read the book. Really liked the narrative Grann used and how it was from White's POV. Plemons did great in that role but there was not nearly as much of him as I thought there would be.

I thought setting the movie from Earnest's POV would be interesting, but after seeing the story told in both fashions I thought White's POV was more interesting.

Movie was fine, definitely better than The Irishmen. Probably give it about a 75/100. Maybe its lower because I was just expecting more given who all was involved.

Some amazing performances (basically everyone but DeNiro), and some beautifully shot scenes.

I think there was a really excellent movie in this story, but it was ultimately not the movie we got to see.
Something just felt missing to me, but its hard to put my finger on it right now.

When will this be available on Apple TV Plus?

No official word yet, but guesses are after the Oscar nominations are announced later this month. So either end of January or sometime in February, before the Oscars in the first half of March.

Boom. Next week...

Apple Original Films today set the Martin Scorsese-directed Critics Choice and Golden Globe Award-nominated ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ to begin streaming globally on Apple TV+ on Friday, January 12 https://t.co/363xiZjYn2

— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) January 4, 2024

TCTTS said:

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Boom. Next week...

Apple Original Films today set the Martin Scorsese-directed Critics Choice and Golden Globe Award-nominated ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ to begin streaming globally on Apple TV+ on Friday, January 12 https://t.co/363xiZjYn2

— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) January 4, 2024

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You just saved me $19.99.

#KillersOfTheFlowerMoon is finally streaming on #AppleTV+ pic.twitter.com/7024HrGEhR

— TV+Updates (@TVPlusUpdates) January 12, 2024

I watched it on Apple TV Plus last night and agree with someone above that gave it 75/100 except i would go 7.5/10. It is ****ing long and the last hour drug on forever. Also DiCaprio and Deniro accents were very jarring at the beginning but luckily I had plenty of time to get used to them.

Charlie Conway said:

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I watched it on Apple TV Plus last night and agree with someone above that gave it 75/100 except i would go 7.5/10.

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Idk. I think 3/4 is closer to accurate for this film.

jeffk said:

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Charlie Conway said:

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I watched it on Apple TV Plus last night and agree with someone above that gave it 75/100 except i would go 7.5/10.

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Idk. I think 3/4 is closer to accurate for this film.

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eww...

I'm struggling with how bad of a movie I thought this was. Slow plodding development that lacked any real mystery. Lack of likable characters that was slightly over come by the fact that I think they did a decent job on some character deep dives considering the length of the film. But to wrap up all that work with a radio reenactment comedic summary of the climax just cheapened the entire experience. Felt different for the sake of being different and fell flat for me. Had my time wasted.

You're far from alone. Lots of beautiful shots, but I think he borrowed too much from Kelly Reichardt (slow cinema director) for his own good. If you haven't seen it, check out Terrence Malick's The New World. Another Anglo/Native tale, but supremely well done, especially the writing. One of the few movie scripts I've ever read in one sitting.

BCG Disciple said:

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I'm struggling with how bad of a movie I thought this was. Slow plodding development that lacked any real mystery. Lack of likable characters that was slightly over come by the fact that I think they did a decent job on some character deep dives considering the length of the film. But to wrap up all that work with a radio reenactment comedic summary of the climax just cheapened the entire experience. Felt different for the sake of being different and fell flat for me. Had my time wasted.

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Scorsese's explanation of the ending (which, personally, I loved)...

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But the biggest twist in Killers comes in its final moments. Stepping away from sober drama, we're introduced to a radio play being recorded by a troupe of musicians on stage, reconstructing the events we've just witnessed - all of the visceral violence, the bloodshed - as trivial entertainment. It's like a roadshow: the scene pops with colour, it whizzes by with pizzazz, the destruction of the Osage stripped of its tragedy and rendered digestible bedtime theatre.

And that's the entire point, as is clarified when the director himself, Scorsese, steps up on stage and recites the real-life Mollie's obituary. It's a poignant, moving moment of remembrance.

"There were several radio shows based on the Osage murders, and we got the script. Ours was bad, but they were really bad," Scorsese told the audience of his ending at a recent Killers screening.

"The radio shows promoted the FBI. And so all of this, all of this tragedy, this catastrophe, ends up as a twenty minute radio show for entertainment. And then, ultimately, as I'm making the picture, I realise too that we're making entertainment, in effect," Scorsese said.

"And therefore the last words have to be spoken by me. Taking on that mantle, that burden, of whether or not... taking on the culpability, too, of being part of a culture that is complicit in this."

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Killers of the Flower Moon's ending, explained by Martin Scorsesehttps://t.co/UYJF78eoHE

— British GQ (@BritishGQ) January 13, 2024

Big ball of meh

Love Marty. Haven't found the 3.5 hours to watch it yet. I will...just not sure when.

Gonna watch it this weekend.

BCG Disciple said:

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I'm struggling with how bad of a movie I thought this was. Slow plodding development that lacked any real mystery. Lack of likable characters that was slightly over come by the fact that I think they did a decent job on some character deep dives considering the length of the film. But to wrap up all that work with a radio reenactment comedic summary of the climax just cheapened the entire experience. Felt different for the sake of being different and fell flat for me. Had my time wasted.

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I watched it the other weekend on Apple TV and get where you're coming from, but I thought it was a really smart thing to add. What happened to the Osage is significant but hardly given the attention it likely deserved because they were Native Americans. I think the point of it was to underscore that aspect. Nationally it was treated as trivial, a footnote, but locally it was not.

It felt a little long to me as well, but a significant improvement over The Irishman which took me three days to complete because it bored me out of my mind. I think the subject might have been better as a miniseries than a movie, but Scorsese doesn't do TV. While I did enjoy this one it's far from my Scorsese films. I really liked the way Deniro played his role in this one as the puppet master pulling strings all over town and how it all comes crumbling down.

All things considered I'd give the movie a solid B.

Great flick

I finally got around to watching this last night. I consider myself a big Scorcese fan, but I thought that this one missed the mark. The ending really ruined it for me, although I get what he was trying to do. It reminded me of the propaganda bits from Starship Troopers. A lot of people hated that, but I thought Verhoeven executed it perfectly, much better than Scorcese did here. I think Scorcese would have been better served to make amends for the treatment of this story in the past by sticking to a solemn and serious retelling of the events through to the end, and respecting the horror and tragedy that the Osage lived through.

I thought Dicaprio, Deniro, and Gladstone were all fantastic. Actually all of the actors playing the sisters and the mother were pretty great. Although Deniro was once again just playing kind of a cartoon-villain version of himself, it seemed like the part was written for him to do just that and if so, he and the writer both nailed it. Using non-actors in many of the supporting roles worked well and lent authenticity more often than not, but there were several important scenes where the Osage actors came off stilted and awkward, and as weird as it sounds, anachronistic. They kind of took me out of the movie a few times. The worst in that regard was actually not a non-actor, but Brendan Fraser. His scenes were ridiculous, he just did not fit the period, vibe, or character at all. They could have put Keanu or Jackie Chan or an actual clown in that role and gotten the same or better result.

I wasn't sure what to expect from Isbell, and some of the press around it had me expecting he would play a bigger part than just the 3-4 scenes he was in. He did a good job, as did Sturgill, but I didn't see anything that dissuades me from the notion that they should both stick to their day jobs. I'd still pay good money to see Isbell's arc as the new musical director for Gemstone Ministries, though.