In an effort to prove how non q-anon they were, pizza gate and Russia's brave and accurate news coverage of Hunter Biden were brought up. Putin and Ukraine naturally followed.Ghost of Bisbee said:
How are we now talking about Putin and Ukraine in here
TC, people criticizing a movie and saying it either sucks or is good is not a personal attack on you. Not sure why you take these things so personally.TCTTS said:BadMoonRisin said:
Why are you so mad, bro?
Over a movie you don't like and probably won't ever see?
Thats a lot of letters about why you don't care...
You're mistaking my calling people out for being "mad." I'm not the least bit angry anymore. Like I said, I mostly just find all of this funny now. Especially the part where, for years and years I've been listening to you guys b*tch and moan about the messaging in and around certain movies, without even watching them first, and now that the tables are turned, you guys have absolutely lost your minds in your mocking and your attacks on me, in ways even I never came close to when the shoe was on the other foot. So I can't help but laugh at the absurdity of it all, knowing so many here really are just hypocrites of the highest order, which gives me all kinds of solace.
I agree. Especially when the interviews are on fringe podcasts with tiny audiences. How many people regularly listen to Steve Bannon's War Room? In researching this post, I found a video of one of his shows on YouTube with 450 views. His show has fewer than 15,000 reviews on Apple podcasts.DargelSkout said:
Do you think that most people hear about movies through the promotional interviews that you posted?
I don't think that they do.
TCTTS said:Sapper Redux said:Just let it be. These guys have reaching the "**** tossing chimp" stage of reading comprehension and argument.TCTTS said:
And I'm agreeing that he should be prosecuted.
What are we even talking about here?
Definitely Not A Cop said:
20 pages in and this topic seems pretty political to me.
Pluralizes Everythings said:TCTTS said:Sapper Redux said:Just let it be. These guys have reaching the "**** tossing chimp" stage of reading comprehension and argument.TCTTS said:
And I'm agreeing that he should be prosecuted.
What are we even talking about here?
So you need a buddy to calm you down with some ad hominems on an online forum....weird. just weird.
Oh and yes they're groomers by affiliation, and there are millions of parents who would love to let you know what's being done to their children in the school system.
ETA:ETA: your buddy likes to show up on F16 to troll, but stopped after getting his arguments eviscerated regularly.
Pluralizes Everythings said:Definitely Not A Cop said:
20 pages in and this topic seems pretty political to me.
It seems that way but it isn't. It's a human rights issue, and a couple bad actors brought up conspiracy theories about qanon etc.
aTmAg said:
And saying "raids don't solve the problem" is like saying that arresting murderers doesn't solve the murder problem. Of course not. It's not supposed to "solve" the problem, just make them happen a lot less often.
BCG Disciple said:
I think the issue is that Q is some how relevant to any discussion. It quite literally had no part in this conversation. Ballard's story has been well documented and has been receiving positive media coverage for the decade plus since the incident in the film occurred. Now it's some how Q related?? Absolute garbage position and like I mentioned it's similar to invalidating a position by calling someone a racist.
https://www.newsweek.com/sound-freedom-movie-creator-tim-ballard-responds-qanon-allegations-sick-1812204
BCG Disciple said:
But I'm sure the media will be even handed in its criticism of movies, actors and distributors. I expect headlines next week of "CULT LEADER WHO BELIEVES HE IS DESCENDENT OF ALIEN, XENU, HAS TOP MOVIE IN AMERICA!"
And none of that refutes anything I said.Sapper Redux said:aTmAg said:
And saying "raids don't solve the problem" is like saying that arresting murderers doesn't solve the murder problem. Of course not. It's not supposed to "solve" the problem, just make them happen a lot less often.
Except the victims in a murder are dead and murderers are rarely part of a larger group. The victims in trafficking are alive and often victimized again because they are left without support or resources and the networks that allow trafficking are intact.
Sapper Redux said:BCG Disciple said:
But I'm sure the media will be even handed in its criticism of movies, actors and distributors. I expect headlines next week of "CULT LEADER WHO BELIEVES HE IS DESCENDENT OF ALIEN, XENU, HAS TOP MOVIE IN AMERICA!"
If Cruise releases a film that has big Scientology ties promoting it and it fits into Scientology's claims, that would be a valid argument.
And again, why do you think Caviezel went on "far right outlets" to promote the movie?Sapper Redux said:BCG Disciple said:
I think the issue is that Q is some how relevant to any discussion. It quite literally had no part in this conversation. Ballard's story has been well documented and has been receiving positive media coverage for the decade plus since the incident in the film occurred. Now it's some how Q related?? Absolute garbage position and like I mentioned it's similar to invalidating a position by calling someone a racist.
https://www.newsweek.com/sound-freedom-movie-creator-tim-ballard-responds-qanon-allegations-sick-1812204
We've already discussed this. Caviezel has promoted QAnon claims. The film was extensively promoted before release on far right outlets, including promoters of QAnon claims, and the basic premise of the film fits into the claims of that worldview. No one has said Ballard is involved with QAnon, though he's clearly on the political right.
Sapper Redux said:BCG Disciple said:
But I'm sure the media will be even handed in its criticism of movies, actors and distributors. I expect headlines next week of "CULT LEADER WHO BELIEVES HE IS DESCENDENT OF ALIEN, XENU, HAS TOP MOVIE IN AMERICA!"
If Cruise releases a film that has big Scientology ties promoting it and it fits into Scientology's claims, that would be a valid argument.
Another Doug said:We aren't Q-Anon, we just get our news from Russian TV.Tibbers said:Raiderjay said:
Can we just agree:
Movie is actually decent....
child trafficking is horrible....
QAnon are freaks.....
Hollywood left wing wackos are freaks.....
The movie should stand on its own merits, regardless of the left/right wackjobs.....translated version pic.twitter.com/IkMJtk0RII
— ilove_b-cuptwits (@rustysh94311564) July 10, 2023
As the film states at the end, the US are the largest consumers of child trafficking and it's a multi billion dollar enterprise.
BCG Disciple said:Sapper Redux said:BCG Disciple said:
But I'm sure the media will be even handed in its criticism of movies, actors and distributors. I expect headlines next week of "CULT LEADER WHO BELIEVES HE IS DESCENDENT OF ALIEN, XENU, HAS TOP MOVIE IN AMERICA!"
If Cruise releases a film that has big Scientology ties promoting it and it fits into Scientology's claims, that would be a valid argument.
So your position is because Q associated pedos with liberal elite (or political elite), that any movie touching on it falls under the Q umbrella and should therefore be invalidated? Or because a wrongthink guy chose Ballard's story for his movie Ballard's story is invalidated.
I'm just trying to squint as hard as you guys do to rationalize all of this. It would be like someone coming out in support of Jussie Smollett and then making a movie of a real life example of racism? Is that a better analogy?
aTmAg said:And none of that refutes anything I said.Sapper Redux said:aTmAg said:
And saying "raids don't solve the problem" is like saying that arresting murderers doesn't solve the murder problem. Of course not. It's not supposed to "solve" the problem, just make them happen a lot less often.
Except the victims in a murder are dead and murderers are rarely part of a larger group. The victims in trafficking are alive and often victimized again because they are left without support or resources and the networks that allow trafficking are intact.
Rape victims aren't dead, theft victims aren't dead, assault victims aren't dead. Yet it is still worthwhile going after all of those criminals because we want less of that stuff happening.
That doesn't mean that we wouldn't ALSO go after the networks and support victims.
Sapper Redux said:BCG Disciple said:Sapper Redux said:BCG Disciple said:
But I'm sure the media will be even handed in its criticism of movies, actors and distributors. I expect headlines next week of "CULT LEADER WHO BELIEVES HE IS DESCENDENT OF ALIEN, XENU, HAS TOP MOVIE IN AMERICA!"
If Cruise releases a film that has big Scientology ties promoting it and it fits into Scientology's claims, that would be a valid argument.
So your position is because Q associated pedos with liberal elite (or political elite), that any movie touching on it falls under the Q umbrella and should therefore be invalidated? Or because a wrongthink guy chose Ballard's story for his movie Ballard's story is invalidated.
I'm just trying to squint as hard as you guys do to rationalize all of this. It would be like someone coming out in support of Jussie Smollett and then making a movie of a real life example of racism? Is that a better analogy?
QAnon is a bat**** stupid conspiracy theory with no evidence or validity that exists to push politics which financially benefit certain people while harming actual efforts to end trafficking and corruption. The attempted minimization is weak.
