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*** INDIANA JONES AND THE DIAL OF DESTINY *** (Spoiler Thread)

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I am about as big an Indy fan as there is. Nothing compares to 1 and 3, but I really enjoyed the last ride for Harrison. Did he look old? Absolutely! But I saw the first one of these when I was a freshman in HS and I'm no spring chicken. A lot of what has come out of Hollywood is just garbage imo. This was a fun summer movie and did exactly what I wanted it to. It was a 2.5 hour thrill ride and a summer escape. The ending was perfect. It isn't the best Indians Jones, but it beats the hell out of most stuff out there. Go see it. You won't be disappointed.
100% agree. I saw it last week and enjoyed it.
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Quad Dog said:

Thats an impressive mask.

Michael Myers should wear that in the next Halloween.
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I saw this last night and thought it was a fun movie with a nonsense plot. If you took the exact same movie and relabeled it so it wasn't Indiana Jones, it would be entirely forgettable. But it was a decent last hurrah for Indiana.

It also gets bonus points for killing Nazis.
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Microwave Onions said:

ItsA&InotA&M said:

I've seen previews on TV.
Several of the preview scenes reminded me of scenes from other Indiana movies. It's as if they took prior memorable scenes, tweaked them and used them in the current movie.



Maybe it's a preview of the AI scripts to come.


I was thinking about that while watching it like "Chat GPT, write me a Indiana Jones script from 1984ish"
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Fun fact, all Indiana Jones movies had a nonsense plot, we were just kids and we didn't care.
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I liked it.
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Too much CGI/greenscreen, to the point of distraction.

In the WWII scenes, yuck.
When they went to Greece and Sicily, I enjoyed it.
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My girls took off this afternoon for a trip to Dallas, so with some me-time suddenly in my lap, I headed over to the local AMC to see this a second time. I enjoyed it every bit as much as the first time. Honestly, I think my favorite part was one of the quietest moments in the movie when Indy said he would tell his son to not enlist in the Army. There was a lot of emotion in that short scene that reminded me of the scene in the Last Crusade when he got that bear hug from his dad, but with an opposite emotion.

I do recognize that DoD is a financial flop - there were maybe 7 people in the theater. But I disagree with any notion that DoD is a bad movie.
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I liked it! I think it was the 2d best (1st one being the best). It was a fun movie to watch.
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I loved Dial of Destiny.

But not the first 95% of it. I was getting angry, because every Marvel and DC movie seemed more realistic to me than an 80 year old man doing ANY of the things Indy did. Horse racing, car chases, face punches, gunshots, skydiving, fighting, etc. But then they time traveled, and I was, like, yeah…. of course this 80 year old man can climb sheer mountains and survive gun shots wounds directly in the heart. I love this movie.

It was a great adventure.
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I thoroughly enjoyed it. As a couple of posters said earlier, this felt like an Indiana Jones movie to me. I felt it the entire time. When I saw Crystal Skull, it never felt like one to me especially with the introduction to Mutt and the corniness between Indy and Marion. I thought this was a fitting end and rebound from the 4th movie.
I would see it again, and I have it as my 3rd favorite.
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Not going back through all the pages of this, so forgive me if I'm touching on things already covered. I finally saw it last night.

I liked it. I didn't love it.
  • I think the first half was too slow and kind of boring
  • The CIA plot was a little too contrived and didn't seem to contribute to the film in any meaningful way
  • Indy retiring struck me as somewhat odd. It was clearly a different school than he was at for the earlier films, which isn't beyond the realm of possibility, but at the end of Last Crusade he was made associate dean. I got the clear impression that he had been relegated to the ranks of any ordinary prof at the school he was retiring from. It's hard for me to imagine him losing stature in academia, and I thought it was somewhat insulting to Indy.
  • They did a good job of making Helena Shaw a terribly unlikeable character for the first half of the film. Was she ultimately redeemed? Sure, but I'm not sure I would want to watch a future anthology carried by her.
  • CGI didn't bother me that much, except for the train roof sequence, especially the hop to the next train car that looked very Polar Express in its clumsiness. I audibly chuckled at that.
  • Filming on location undid a lot of the stank of Crystal Skull, imo. Indiana Jones films need to be on location for that distinctive character of the film we all know and love from Raiders and Last Crusade.
  • I'm glad they kept the Nazi theme going. It was a more direct tie to Raiders and Last Crusade, which are the best two films for me, and it worked. It gives the audience a broader understanding of the situational dynamics without needing to explain anything or provide background beyond the time jump, which was similar to what we saw at the beginning of Last Crusade.
  • What I really loved about the plot twist with the dial is it tracks with the overarching theme of there being a catch to great artifacts. The Ark couldn't be opened and looked at, the Grail could not pass beyond the seal, etc.
  • There was a moment when Indy wanted to stay that I completely expected the twist to be that the grave they found wasn't Archimedes, but Indiana Jones. Could have been fun, but the real ending was very nice, and I'm glad he and Marion reconciled.
My rankings:
1. Raiders
2. Last Crusade
3. Dial of Destiny
4. Crystal Skull
5. Temple of Doom
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Saw it tonight. Agreed it's better than crystal skull, but not by much. No reason for this movie to be made except for a money grab.
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Finally got a quiet night to watch this one, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. It wasn't a great movie, but I thought it hit all the Indy hallmarks and was entertaining. 3.75/5 for me.
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Horrendous.
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Finally got around to this on D+. Went in with low expectations to prepare myself. It was somewhat entertaining but I still had to turn off to go to sleep and save the last 45 minutes for later.

-CGI was too much
-I just wanted the chase scenes to end and the movie to get the point already, please cut 30 minutes off run time
-I can kind of see why phoebe was selected but it just felt like bad execution. Either way I wish they had a better looking co-star
-change out mustache short round
-no gruesome death for the villain....lame. Plane crash? Come on, man

Like I said if they chopped off 30 minutes, toned down the cgi then they might have had something to work with.

2.5 out 5 Sankara Stones
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Finally watched it, really enjoyed it. Only CGI that bothered me was when indy was scrambling on the floor after getting dropped from the noise, and him running/jumping on the train.

One thing I thought would happen once the plan to go back to Nazi Germany was revealed was that they would overshoot the destination and end up back at the opening sequence. Since the villain hardly aged at all, and had not visible injuries from being knocked off the train, I thought it would be fitting if the opening sequence was actually the ending and the villain is killed by young indy. Would've been neat if it had always been the older version on the train.
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-no gruesome death for the villain....lame. Plane crash? Come on, man
Well he was a lame villain.

I agree many the chase scenes tended to go on too long.

With all the negativity about it I expected to hate it but I didn't. It helped that they decided to bring in Marion at the end of the film, at least this part of the film was a satisfying end to the saga.
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Finally saw it. Rate it C+. Yes the middle is drawn out and does't add to much. But the opening brings back the best parts of old Indy even with the CGI. And the ending is so outlandish I couldn't help but like it. Also it gets points for killing Nazis.

Final ranking
Last crusade
Temple
Raiders
Dial
Crystal
jkag89
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Any ranking that does not have Raiders listed #1 is invalid much less placing it in the middle of the pack.


  • Raiders of the Lost Ark

  • The Last Crusade




  • Temple of Doom

  • The Dial of Destiny




  • The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

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No kidding. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen someone list Raiders as the third best Indy movie.
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Finally saw it.
Agree with much above. Helena was a weird character as a semi heroine, she was all over the map. Chase scenes way too long and frequent in the first 90 minutes. Lots of small plot holes I won't nitpick at, like how you can go into a casino at night and ten minutes later it's broad daylight. Or how you beat the baddies to the cave by like 10 minutes when they left well before you.
But the last 40 minutes or so redeemed the movie for me. That was a cool arc, however random and out there. And I loved how they sold the hero ending and then stomped on it. And it should have ended with him and Marion so kudos there.

I'm sure it is somewhere up thread, but what happened to Shia? They made this huge point of making him the next guy in CS and then killed him off?

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oragator said:

Finally saw it.
Agree with much above. Helena was a weird character as a semi heroine, she was all over the map. Chase scenes way too long and frequent in the first 90 minutes. Lots of small plot holes I won't nitpick at, like how you can go into a casino at night and ten minutes later it's broad daylight. Or how you beat the baddies to the cave by like 10 minutes when they left well before you.
But the last 40 minutes or so redeemed the movie for me. That was a cool arc, however random and out there. And I loved how they sold the hero ending and then stomped on it. And it should have ended with him and Marion so kudos there.

I'm sure it is somewhere up thread, but what happened to Shia? They made this huge point of making him the next guy in CS and then killed him off?


He enlisted for Vietnam and was KIA
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Thanks yeah I understood from a plot perspective, was thinking more from a casting one,
Is he that toxic?
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oragator said:

Thanks yeah I understood from a plot perspective, was thinking more from a casting one,
Is he that toxic?
Oh, sorry. I misunderstood what you were asking.

As for the actor, I think I remember reading that guy went off the deep end politically when Trump was in office. But that's only a vague recollection.
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Yeah, he was arrested for assault at an anti-Trump protest, but that's not why he was semi-cancelled. It was because of abuse allegations by his ex, FKA Twigs, which he then basically admitted to. He had been on a downward mental health spiral in general for years, though, and that was the last straw.

That said, he has since apparently found God, become a devout Catholic, and is getting a second shot at a career, starring in Francis Ford Coppola's dream project, Megalopolis, later this year.
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I still don't understand why we don't have 20+ movies and 4 different Indys at this point. Indiana Jones should be America's version of the James Bond movies. The IP is there. Excellent hero. Excellent villain everyone hates in the Nazis. Excellent timeframe for interesting period pieces. Excellent backdrop with the intersection of archeology and religiosity.


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MW03 said:

Indiana Jones should be America's version of the James Bond movies.

Ethan Hunt.

But I do agree with you that there should be a lot more Indy around.
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First question is why did they think spending $387.2 million on an Indy movie was a good idea? Dune 2 only cost $190 million.
 
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