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In reply to Chipotlemonger • 11:59a, 12/4/23
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Hahaha yes. Barely even 2/3 of the way through TFA, if that. Without ever telling us Coruscant was no longer the galactic capital - and that, it was instead the new capital (and its entire star system) that was blown up, which we had zero connection to.

Why not just blow up Coruscant? And have it still be the capital? Everyone in the theater would have been like, "Oh, sh*t!," the stakes would have been instantly raised, etc.

(Granted, yet another planet/star-killing super weapon never should have been introduced in the first place, and the stakes should have been completely different.)
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In reply to CC09LawAg • 12:05p, 12/4/23
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CC09LawAg said:
The more I have read this thread and thought about it, this was my issue - it was almost like Rian Johnson saw Han get killed in Ep. VII and decided he was going to be the one to take every remaining iconic character/moment and shove them all into his movie.

The whole movie just feels like this weird, standoffish attempt to subvert EVERY expectation. If you zig every time you can zag it just starts to feel like you're making fun of the fans at some point.

100%. It's like Johnson got greedy and wanted all those moments for himself, rather than set them up for the next movie. And yeah, this was also the movie I officially came to hate the idea of "subverting expectations," which was all the rage then, in a number of other movies/shows. Just tell us a good story! If you have to depend on surprises above all to keep us interested, you're failing at your job.
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In reply to TCTTS • 12:10p, 12/4/23
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TCTTS said:
CC09LawAg said:
The more I have read this thread and thought about it, this was my issue - it was almost like Rian Johnson saw Han get killed in Ep. VII and decided he was going to be the one to take every remaining iconic character/moment and shove them all into his movie.

The whole movie just feels like this weird, standoffish attempt to subvert EVERY expectation. If you zig every time you can zag it just starts to feel like you're making fun of the fans at some point.

100%. It's like Johnson got greedy and wanted all those moments for himself, rather than set them up for the next movie. And yeah, this was also the movie I officially came to hate the idea of "subverting expectations," which was all the rage then, in a number of other movies/shows. Just tell us a good story! If you have to depend on surprises above all to keep us interested, you're failing at your job.
Hi, have you met Rian Johnson?

He's done some really great stuff, then kind of got caught up in his own hype.
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12:24p, 12/4/23
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Not the best - which is Face/Off for my money - but damn good.

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