I mean, if I was writing a television show... yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I would do. I would write down a list of topics, situations, and/or storylines (probably on a whiteboard) that I thought would be interesting and engaging enough (I suppose you could call them "controversial") to make people want to watch the show, so that they would actually tune in, the show would be successful, and I would get paid to keep making more TV shows. Then I would try to find a way to weave all of those storylines into the episodes in a way that makes sense chronologically and flows naturally without getting too slow, at the risk of boring my audience.Captain Winky said:
I don't think that was the CMO. I think it was just a hospital administrator that they pigeon holed into the story to show how administration sucks and gets in the way of patient care. Like I posted previously, it was almost as if they just had a whiteboard with controversial topics and made sure each one was included in an episode.
Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
A lot of people just love to b/tch about how "woke" the stuff they consume is. "Trans people exist, and sometimes seek medical help...and the characters in the show didn't treat them like garbage? THAT'S WOKE!"Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It's your own fault that you allowed those "woke" moments to affect your enjoyment of the show. Some of you just can't help but to watch movies or TV shows with a political tint so you can yell, "Oh this and that is just woke BS. Why can't they write about something that I agree with?"javajaws said:Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
Well said. "Ugggghhhhh, why can't they just leave politics out of the show?"....laments person who needlessly sees politics in every aspect of the show and life at large. Not to mention the fact that we've had multiple ER docs say that these "woke" situations are things they commonly see on the job. Plus, the "woke" stuff is inherently more dramatic...if it was a show of just people getting into car wrecks or falling off of ladders it'd be significantly less entertaining IMO.Jawn Dough said:It's your own fault that you allowed those "woke" moments to affect your enjoyment of the show. Some of you just can't help but to watch movies or TV shows with a political tint so you can yell, "Oh this and that is just woke BS. Why can't they write about something that I agree with?"javajaws said:Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
Sorry, I'm allowed to criticize any show I watch the same as you. If you don't like it too bad.Jawn Dough said:It's your own fault that you allowed those "woke" moments to affect your enjoyment of the show. Some of you just can't help but to watch movies or TV shows with a political tint so you can yell, "Oh this and that is just woke BS. Why can't they write about something that I agree with?"javajaws said:Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
What is woke in the show?javajaws said:Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
That's like asking what is good or bad. It is ultimately an opinion based on personal perspectives. And the great thing is that each of is given a brain to think for ourselves so each of us gets to decide how to answer that question for ourself.Rudyjax said:What is woke in the show?javajaws said:Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
What was preachy?javajaws said:That's like asking what is good or bad. It is ultimately an opinion based on personal perspectives. And the great thing is that each of is given a brain to think for ourselves so each of us gets to decide how to answer that question for ourself.Rudyjax said:What is woke in the show?javajaws said:Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
I personally think it is a good show, but not great because of the agenda they are pushing in the writing. I find it "preachy", albeit without being too in your face (which is why it manages to still be good).
Bravo! You keep calling it woke, mad that people are upset at your "opinion" (while never giving any specifics), talk about checklists, etc.javajaws said:That's like asking what is good or bad. It is ultimately an opinion based on personal perspectives. And the great thing is that each of is given a brain to think for ourselves so each of us gets to decide how to answer that question for ourself.Rudyjax said:What is woke in the show?javajaws said:Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
I personally think it is a good show, but not great because of the agenda they are pushing in the writing. I find it "preachy", albeit without being too in your face (which is why it manages to still be good).
You apparently have a reading comprehension problem. I'm not mad at anything nor do I care what you'll think about this show. Pretty much every post on this forum is an opinion of one sort or another. Except then there are passive aggressive posts like yours that do not serve up an opinion of their own but rather try to tear down someone else's.Tecolote said:Bravo! You keep calling it woke, mad that people are upset at your "opinion" (while never giving any specifics), talk about checklists, etc.javajaws said:That's like asking what is good or bad. It is ultimately an opinion based on personal perspectives. And the great thing is that each of is given a brain to think for ourselves so each of us gets to decide how to answer that question for ourself.Rudyjax said:What is woke in the show?javajaws said:Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
I personally think it is a good show, but not great because of the agenda they are pushing in the writing. I find it "preachy", albeit without being too in your face (which is why it manages to still be good).
Admit it, you're just looking for something to be upset/mad about.
beatlesphan said:
To me the measles case seemed preachy. And I am pro-MMR vaccine. Then the way the doctor completely lost his sh** when the parents disagreed...very unprofessional.
I offered my opinion on an issue earlier in this thread. I agree at first I rolled my eyes at the measles vaccine like oh **** here's a woke (overused but using here for context) issue. But on reflection, the vaccine discussion was an incredibly small part of the entire scene with the son. The part of the doctor losing his **** was that she was interfering with a spinal tap and his trying to treat the son to save his life. Then it was all about the mother being Dr. Google. This is not a "woke" issue. It is a real issue in today's society that isn't about being woke, but about the dangers of people feeling empowered by reading something off the internet and feeling they have as much knowledge as a physician, a rancher, an engineer, a veterinarian, etc.javajaws said:You apparently have a reading comprehension problem. I'm not mad at anything nor do I care what you'll think about this show. Pretty much every post on this forum is an opinion of one sort or another. Except then there are passive aggressive posts like yours that do not serve up an opinion of their own but rather try to tear down someone else's.Tecolote said:Bravo! You keep calling it woke, mad that people are upset at your "opinion" (while never giving any specifics), talk about checklists, etc.javajaws said:That's like asking what is good or bad. It is ultimately an opinion based on personal perspectives. And the great thing is that each of is given a brain to think for ourselves so each of us gets to decide how to answer that question for ourself.Rudyjax said:What is woke in the show?javajaws said:Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
I personally think it is a good show, but not great because of the agenda they are pushing in the writing. I find it "preachy", albeit without being too in your face (which is why it manages to still be good).
Admit it, you're just looking for something to be upset/mad about.
I fully realize that 80% of this forum loves the woke stuff and that they don't consider it woke. With that level of disagreement what is the point of going into more detail? There is no point but to try to inflame each other which you seem intent on doing.
Did you not watch the events of the day?beatlesphan said:
To me the measles case seemed preachy. And I am pro-MMR vaccine. Then the way the doctor completely lost his sh** when the parents disagreed...very unprofessional.
The episode where they used the Butterfly ultrasound had excessive product placement lines. 'It has E-FAST mode" etc. My wife is in marketing for medical device and laughed her butt off.
I am nitpicking and realize it was a good show that was unique in how it portrayed many realities of the ED.
Agree. But, I believe it's even worse and more general. "Woke" is now an all encompassing term used for something one doesn't agree with or something that doesn't fit into the mold one expects.Ervin Burrell said:
I love how the term "woke" has been *******ized so much it can now refer to advocacy for taking the measles vaccine.
Where anywhere in this thread have I mentioned the measles scene? Its great that you offer your opinion on it and I agree with you that vaccines aren't a "woke" issue. I'm not sure why you are responding about that to my post though unless you are trying to make it look like I think it is. You sure seem to be looking for a fight when all I tried to do was answer a question that was asked. What you are doing is called trolling.Tecolote said:I offered my opinion on an issue earlier in this thread. I agree at first I rolled my eyes at the measles vaccine like oh **** here's a woke issue. But on reflection, the vaccine discussion was an incredibly small part of the entire scene with the son. The part of the doctor losing his **** was that she was interfering with a spinal tap and his trying to treat the son to save his life. Then it was all about the mother being Dr. Google. This is not a "woke" issue. It is a real issue in today's society that isn't about being woke, but about the dangers of people feeling empowered by reading something off the internet and feeling they have as much knowledge as a physician, a rancher, an engineer, etc.javajaws said:You apparently have a reading comprehension problem. I'm not mad at anything nor do I care what you'll think about this show. Pretty much every post on this forum is an opinion of one sort or another. Except then there are passive aggressive posts like yours that do not serve up an opinion of their own but rather try to tear down someone else's.Tecolote said:Bravo! You keep calling it woke, mad that people are upset at your "opinion" (while never giving any specifics), talk about checklists, etc.javajaws said:That's like asking what is good or bad. It is ultimately an opinion based on personal perspectives. And the great thing is that each of is given a brain to think for ourselves so each of us gets to decide how to answer that question for ourself.Rudyjax said:What is woke in the show?javajaws said:Other than the fact they seem to be using a woke checklist to create plot points? One here and there...no problem. But when you can predict what woke issue they will showcase next it really takes away from the other great parts.Rudyjax said:
Can someone tell what was "controversial" in the show?
It seemed to me every scenario was things people in the ER may face. Not in the same day of course.
I personally think it is a good show, but not great because of the agenda they are pushing in the writing. I find it "preachy", albeit without being too in your face (which is why it manages to still be good).
Admit it, you're just looking for something to be upset/mad about.
I fully realize that 80% of this forum loves the woke stuff and that they don't consider it woke. With that level of disagreement what is the point of going into more detail? There is no point but to try to inflame each other which you seem intent on doing.
Can you point to a single post in this thread where any such thing has been stated? Or are you just making that up?Ervin Burrell said:
I love how the term "woke" has been *******ized so much it can now refer to advocacy for taking the measles vaccine.
I sit firmly in the middle politics wise. I simply tried to respond in a non-confrontational way because every time someone takes a deep dive into political specifics on this forum one side or the other gets totally unhinged (exhibit A above). Sorry you can't appreciate someone trying to be non-confrontational on a very divided forum. If you truly believe there is no woke checklist in the writing of this show well then I'm happy for you. Enjoy it! I've already said its a good show.Rudyjax said:
Anyone that uses the word woke has such a narrow mindset that it's useless to have a discussion with them. Especially ones who ignore a direct question when trying to understand their point of view.
Sure can. In Tecolote's post right above my previous one:javajaws said:Can you point to a single post in this thread where any such thing has been stated? Or are you just making that up?Ervin Burrell said:
I love how the term "woke" has been *******ized so much it can now refer to advocacy for taking the measles vaccine.
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I agree at first I rolled my eyes at the measles vaccine like oh **** here's a woke issue.
I don't even understand what you consider woke so I asked.javajaws said:I sit firmly in the middle politics wise. I simply tried to respond in a non-confrontational way because every time someone takes a deep dive into political specifics on this forum one side or the other gets totally unhinged (exhibit A above). Sorry you can't appreciate someone trying to be non-confrontational on a very divided forum. If you truly believe there is no woke checklist in the writing of this show well then I'm happy for you. Enjoy it! I've already said its a good show.Rudyjax said:
Anyone that uses the word woke has such a narrow mindset that it's useless to have a discussion with them. Especially ones who ignore a direct question when trying to understand their point of view.
No offense intended, but if 40% of your posts are in f16 I kinda doubt that you're that firmly in the middle.javajaws said:I sit firmly in the middle politics wise. I simply tried to respond in a non-confrontational way because every time someone takes a deep dive into political specifics on this forum one side or the other gets totally unhinged (exhibit A above). Sorry you can't appreciate someone trying to be non-confrontational on a very divided forum. If you truly believe there is no woke checklist in the writing of this show well then I'm happy for you. Enjoy it! I've already said it's a good show.Rudyjax said:
Anyone that uses the word woke has such a narrow mindset that it's useless to have a discussion with them. Especially ones who ignore a direct question when trying to understand their point of view.
