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In reply to hph6203 • 1:45p, 2/18/26
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Government didn't enact those policies, but their leftist leaders absolutely advocated for restrictions like that. Limiting food access, limiting freedoms, limiting access to health care. It got very nasty.

Noam Chomsky advocating for their isolation from society and being unconcerned about their access to food until they're in genuinely dangerous territory of starving. Lots of doctors came out discussing triage of vaccinated vs unvaccinated giving priority treatment to the vaccinated, Jimmy Kimmel, Howard Stern, George Takei, the ladies of The View. Lots of people were that brand of evil.



Talk about moving goal posts.

"Government didn't enact those policies, but their leftist leaders absolutely advocated for restrictions like that."

Their leftist leaders! Ah yes, those.

"Lots of doctors came out discussing triage of vaccinated vs unvaccinated giving priority treatment to the vaccinated"

I always find this talking point strange. Am I supposed to feel bad for people that declined protections from a disease and then contracted that disease and only then wanted medical attention?

In any case, the only time I saw reported that people who were unvaccinated actually being denied medical treatment was people who need organ transplants but refused to follow the vaccination protocols required to receive one.
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schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
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I think a lot of people like you gladly have no idea the scale of what's going on in this country


Imagine posting this with zero, absolutely zero, self reflection.


Says the guy that admits he's fine with innocent people being jailed.


There you go again. Moving goalposts. You said detained. Now it's jailed.


Do you really not understand what detained means? I don't think this conversation can go much simpler.


I do. You don't.

Detained can be as simple as law enforcement simply holding you on the sidewalk and not letting you go until you present ID, which is what some of these 4000 are. That's detained. Jailed is incarcerated after arrest.


You think a judge is issuing rulings about someone being stopped temporarily on the street?

"With few other legal paths to freedom, immigrant detainees have filed more than 20,200 federal lawsuits demanding their release since Trump took office, a Reuters review of court dockets found, underscoring the sweeping impact of Trump's policy change.
In at least 4,421 cases, more than 400 federal judges ruled since the beginning of October that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is holding people illegally as it carries out its mass-deportation campaign, Reuters found."


Move that goalpost. Move it like your life depends on it.


You seem to have difficulty absorbing information
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In reply to schmendeler • 1:52p, 2/18/26
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schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
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I think a lot of people like you gladly have no idea the scale of what's going on in this country


Imagine posting this with zero, absolutely zero, self reflection.


Says the guy that admits he's fine with innocent people being jailed.


There you go again. Moving goalposts. You said detained. Now it's jailed.


Do you really not understand what detained means? I don't think this conversation can go much simpler.


I do. You don't.

Detained can be as simple as law enforcement simply holding you on the sidewalk and not letting you go until you present ID, which is what some of these 4000 are. That's detained. Jailed is incarcerated after arrest.


You think a judge is issuing rulings about someone being stopped temporarily on the street?

"With few other legal paths to freedom, immigrant detainees have filed more than 20,200 federal lawsuits demanding their release since Trump took office, a Reuters review of court dockets found, underscoring the sweeping impact of Trump's policy change.
In at least 4,421 cases, more than 400 federal judges ruled since the beginning of October that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is holding people illegally as it carries out its mass-deportation campaign, Reuters found."


Move that goalpost. Move it like your life depends on it.


You seem to have difficulty absorbing information


Nor more difficult then you purposely misusing words and meanings to achieve the dramatic effect you are seeking.
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In reply to Teslag • 2:05p, 2/18/26
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Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
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I think a lot of people like you gladly have no idea the scale of what's going on in this country


Imagine posting this with zero, absolutely zero, self reflection.


Says the guy that admits he's fine with innocent people being jailed.


There you go again. Moving goalposts. You said detained. Now it's jailed.


Do you really not understand what detained means? I don't think this conversation can go much simpler.


I do. You don't.

Detained can be as simple as law enforcement simply holding you on the sidewalk and not letting you go until you present ID, which is what some of these 4000 are. That's detained. Jailed is incarcerated after arrest.


You think a judge is issuing rulings about someone being stopped temporarily on the street?

"With few other legal paths to freedom, immigrant detainees have filed more than 20,200 federal lawsuits demanding their release since Trump took office, a Reuters review of court dockets found, underscoring the sweeping impact of Trump's policy change.
In at least 4,421 cases, more than 400 federal judges ruled since the beginning of October that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is holding people illegally as it carries out its mass-deportation campaign, Reuters found."


Move that goalpost. Move it like your life depends on it.


You seem to have difficulty absorbing information


Nor more difficult then you purposely misusing words and meanings to achieve the dramatic effect you are seeking.


I'm genuinely struggling to understand how you can not grasp that the article being referenced is about people being held, pending deportation, by ICE. It's not people being stopped temporarily to check their IDs. A judge wouldn't issue a ruling about something so minor.

I can only surmise it's because you are ****ing with me. So, i bid you adieu.
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:06p, 2/18/26
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schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
Quote:
I think a lot of people like you gladly have no idea the scale of what's going on in this country


Imagine posting this with zero, absolutely zero, self reflection.


Says the guy that admits he's fine with innocent people being jailed.


There you go again. Moving goalposts. You said detained. Now it's jailed.


Do you really not understand what detained means? I don't think this conversation can go much simpler.


I do. You don't.

Detained can be as simple as law enforcement simply holding you on the sidewalk and not letting you go until you present ID, which is what some of these 4000 are. That's detained. Jailed is incarcerated after arrest.


You think a judge is issuing rulings about someone being stopped temporarily on the street?

"With few other legal paths to freedom, immigrant detainees have filed more than 20,200 federal lawsuits demanding their release since Trump took office, a Reuters review of court dockets found, underscoring the sweeping impact of Trump's policy change.
In at least 4,421 cases, more than 400 federal judges ruled since the beginning of October that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is holding people illegally as it carries out its mass-deportation campaign, Reuters found."


Move that goalpost. Move it like your life depends on it.


You seem to have difficulty absorbing information


Nor more difficult then you purposely misusing words and meanings to achieve the dramatic effect you are seeking.


I'm genuinely struggling to understand how you can not grasp that the article being referenced is about people being held, pending deportation, by ICE. It's not people being stopped temporarily to check their IDs. A judge wouldn't issue a ruling about something so minor.

I can only surmise it's because you are ****ing with me. So, i bid you adieu.



Then why didn't you initially say jailed instead of detained?
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:09p, 2/18/26
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A judge wouldn't issue a ruling about something so minor.


Judges and cases have ruled/been brought against ICE for detaining people and requesting identification.
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And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.
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And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.


Hell yeah brother! **** the constitution!
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He's a Democrat which means he supports open borders, anti-white racism, and child mutilation, so he's automatically not getting my vote.

His fake Christian credentials are irrelevant to me, personally.
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:26p, 2/18/26
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I'm just blown away by some folks goaltending that is going to age incredibly poorly.


And it's all for a guy that is obviously an all time piece of ***** It really is a cult.


No need to drag Obama into this


I'll take note of the next Obama boat parade or lifted truck with a flag with his name on it trailing behind it i see because it will be the first. At least it would make sense because he's actually charming and liked by a broad swath of humanity.


This is just ridiculous ingenuous. You don't remember the "Yes We Can" posters plastered everywhere? Obama bumper stickers on cars YEARs after his Presidency that are clearly new?

Let's not act like both sides don't play into the same cult of personality bull***** Go count Beto signs in Austin if you think this is a Republican only issue.
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Teslag said:
And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.


Hell yeah brother! **** the constitution!


Doesn't apply to a hostile foreign invasion. Treat them as they are. You'd have wanted to grant the japs due process before shooting them down over pearl harbor.
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maverick2076 said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Macarthur said:
I'm just blown away by some folks goaltending that is going to age incredibly poorly.


And it's all for a guy that is obviously an all time piece of ***** It really is a cult.


No need to drag Obama into this


I'll take note of the next Obama boat parade or lifted truck with a flag with his name on it trailing behind it i see because it will be the first. At least it would make sense because he's actually charming and liked by a broad swath of humanity.


This is just ridiculous ingenuous. You don't remember the "Yes We Can" posters plastered everywhere? Obama bumper stickers on cars YEARs after his Presidency that are clearly new?

Let's not act like both sides don't play into the same cult of personality bull***** Go count Beto signs in Austin if you think this is a Republican only issue.


100%. The fawning and adolation of a chicago ghetto organizer was off the charts in 2008. It's comical to see it white washed away and memory holed now.
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In reply to Teslag • 2:31p, 2/18/26
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And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.

Dehumanizing statements make me realize this was never about immigration.
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Teslag said:
And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.

Dehumanizing statements make me realize this was never about immigration.


You should hear what our grandparents said about people invading the US in 1941. Actually, you shouldn't. Probably get triggered.

And it might also shock you to know many of the ICE agents doing the heavy lifting are hispanic and I 100% support them and appreciate their service to our shared country.
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Teslag said:
WES2006AG said:
Teslag said:
And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.

Dehumanizing statements make me realize this was never about immigration.


You should hear what our grandparents said about people invading the US in 1941. Actually, you shouldn't. Probably get triggered.

Hell I heard what my grandparents said about neighbors that had a different skin color. I'm not going to look at them for an example of how to live life and treat others moving forward.
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:35p, 2/18/26
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Doctors absolutely declined treating unvaccinated individuals. Was it policy? No, but you've gone from caring about the individuals in society engaging in legal activity having accidental negative consequences inflicted upon them being a bad thing (citizen detention), to not caring about the intentional negative consequences inflicted upon them for engaging in legal activity (unvaccinated not receiving services and/or having freedoms restricted).

Call me crazy, but I don't think people should have their healthcare or freedoms restricted for engaging in legal activities any more than I think U.S. citizens should be detained by ICE. One of those things is an intentional action directed against a group of people because they fall into a category (unvaccinated) the other is an error that occurred and was rectified. A post occurrence assessment of "that shouldn't have happened to either" and a post occurrence assessment of "that shouldn't have happened to the U.S. citizen detained by ICE, but the unvaccinated had it coming."

No, you should not triage care based upon vaccination status. You should triage care based upon severity and likelihood of a successful outcome. A person with two bullets in their head should probably not receive the same level of attention as a person with one in their chest, who should receive more attention than someone with one in their shoulder. That's how triage works.


I also think it's an unconscionable miscarriage of justice for the federal government to use a warrant against a man with a valid claim of illegal activity (with evidence) to acquire his private communications (justifiably) and then use that to release the private communications of uninvolved/non-evidenced based individuals contained in those communications to the public. Why am I reading the private communications of Elon Musk's, Bill Gates', Reid Hoffmann's, Howard Lutnick's etc etc.? They spoke with a convicted and released criminal and subsequently accused but not yet convicted individual? Seems like a pretty low bar for the public to get access to those correspondence. A crazy violation of privacy. Lots of people being accused of crimes as an extension of that violation.

Why did that happen? Because a collection of politicians primarily wanted to tag a single individual with evidence of child abuse/sexual crimes. Seems they could have reviewed the information privately and come to the conclusion the evidence exists or doesn't exist without violating the privacy of thousands of mostly uninvolved individuals.
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maverick2076 said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Macarthur said:
I'm just blown away by some folks goaltending that is going to age incredibly poorly.


And it's all for a guy that is obviously an all time piece of ***** It really is a cult.


No need to drag Obama into this


I'll take note of the next Obama boat parade or lifted truck with a flag with his name on it trailing behind it i see because it will be the first. At least it would make sense because he's actually charming and liked by a broad swath of humanity.


This is just ridiculous ingenuous. You don't remember the "Yes We Can" posters plastered everywhere? Obama bumper stickers on cars YEARs after his Presidency that are clearly new?

Let's not act like both sides don't play into the same cult of personality bull***** Go count Beto signs in Austin if you think this is a Republican only issue.


Trump Phone
Trump Bible
Trump Meme Coin
Trump watches
Trump Sneakers
Trump fragrances

These are all products he's pushed since he was president.

You can attempt to argue that a few bumper stickers (that you somehow can determine are new) and yard signs from a campaign are the same?

It's simply not even close in degree.
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cajunaggie08 said:
Teslag said:
WES2006AG said:
Teslag said:
And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.

Dehumanizing statements make me realize this was never about immigration.


You should hear what our grandparents said about people invading the US in 1941. Actually, you shouldn't. Probably get triggered.

Hell I heard what my grandparents said about neighbors that had a different skin color. I'm not going to look at them for an example of how to live life and treat others moving forward.


Well racism isn't different because it's based on nothing but skin color. Wanting foreign invaders dealt with is completely different.
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In reply to Teslag • 2:37p, 2/18/26
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And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.

You should really watch the throwback CNN piece from the Obama era where they did a ride-along with ICE to pimp how tough Obama was on Illegal Immigration. On camera, ICE literally apprehends and temporarily detains a legal citizen who they had confused with another man they were after. CNN goaltends for them like their life depends on it.

Absolutely no one could ever convince me that they would not paint the exact same situation under a massively different light if it happened under Trump. I mean, they obviously wouldn't even do the "pro ICE" piece to begin with.
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:38p, 2/18/26
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schmendeler said:
maverick2076 said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Macarthur said:
I'm just blown away by some folks goaltending that is going to age incredibly poorly.


And it's all for a guy that is obviously an all time piece of ***** It really is a cult.


No need to drag Obama into this


I'll take note of the next Obama boat parade or lifted truck with a flag with his name on it trailing behind it i see because it will be the first. At least it would make sense because he's actually charming and liked by a broad swath of humanity.


This is just ridiculous ingenuous. You don't remember the "Yes We Can" posters plastered everywhere? Obama bumper stickers on cars YEARs after his Presidency that are clearly new?

Let's not act like both sides don't play into the same cult of personality bull***** Go count Beto signs in Austin if you think this is a Republican only issue.


Trump Phone
Trump Bible
Trump Meme Coin
Trump watches
Trump Sneakers
Trump fragrances

These are all products he's pushed since he was president.

You can attempt to argue that a few bumper stickers (that you somehow can determine are new) and yard signs from a campaign are the same?

It's simply not even close in degree.


Hasn't he pushed **** like this for decades?
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1981 Monte Carlo said:
Teslag said:
And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.

You should really watch the throwback CNN piece from the Obama era where they did a ride-along with ICE to pimp how togh Obama was on Illegal Immigration. On camera, ICE literally apprehends and temporarily detains a legal citizen who they has confused with another man they were after. CNN goaltends for them like their life depends on it.

Absolutely no one could ever convince me that they would not paint the exact same situation under a massively different light if it happened under Trump. I mean, they obviously wouldn't do the "pro ICE" piece to begin with.


I saw it. These people don't care about illegals any further than they throw one. It's purely about orange man bad. I'll say it right now, Obama kicked ass on illegals. Major props to him for it. I'm objective. I'm consistent. Illegals are trash. Treat them like the garbage they are. Obama did it. Trump is doing it. Props to both.
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In reply to Teslag • 2:40p, 2/18/26
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Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
maverick2076 said:
schmendeler said:
Teslag said:
schmendeler said:
Macarthur said:
I'm just blown away by some folks goaltending that is going to age incredibly poorly.


And it's all for a guy that is obviously an all time piece of ***** It really is a cult.


No need to drag Obama into this


I'll take note of the next Obama boat parade or lifted truck with a flag with his name on it trailing behind it i see because it will be the first. At least it would make sense because he's actually charming and liked by a broad swath of humanity.


This is just ridiculous ingenuous. You don't remember the "Yes We Can" posters plastered everywhere? Obama bumper stickers on cars YEARs after his Presidency that are clearly new?

Let's not act like both sides don't play into the same cult of personality bull***** Go count Beto signs in Austin if you think this is a Republican only issue.


Trump Phone
Trump Bible
Trump Meme Coin
Trump watches
Trump Sneakers
Trump fragrances

These are all products he's pushed since he was president.

You can attempt to argue that a few bumper stickers (that you somehow can determine are new) and yard signs from a campaign are the same?

It's simply not even close in degree.


Hasn't he pushed **** like this for decades?

I know he was selling the watch as recently as last year because my dad called asking if it was legit because he wanted to buy one for my mom. That was an awkward convo.
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1981 Monte Carlo said:
Whos Juan said:
1981 Monte Carlo said:
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We've already discussed that talk show interviews have been exempt from the equal time provision for like 60 years.


Except for the parent company airing Colbert, CBS, putting out a memo that they essentially aren't (or aren't willing to test it).

But you do you.


That's the whole point of this discussion. The current admin has changed the legal landscape.


It sure has for the illegals!


And legal immigrants. It's a **** show all around!

No it's not...none of us know a single legal immigrant who is being harrassed. If there are any, it is a relative handful nationwide. I know tons of legal immigrants, including my family, I work with man, friends with many...all good, trust me.

But i do find it funny that you guys didn't cry thesame crocodile tears under Obama. CNN literally did a ride around with ICE under his admin as a fluff piece...during that program, ICE accidentally nabbed the wrong guy, and they goaltended for ICE, explaining how difficult their jobs are and that someties they make mistakes.

This is ALL partisan manufactured outrage. There's only chaos in the streets of certain places because it was planned and intentional because "Orange Man Bad".

Really? Every single immigrant getting arrested when they're showing up TO THEIR COURT HEARING isn't harassment?

TBH with the amount of money and resources getting thrown into DHS, the roving patrols, the abuse of the 4th amendment under the guise of administrative warrants, and all of the arrests and detainments, Trump's administration actually kinda sucks at deporting illegal immigrants. His numbers are comparable to Obama's, who didn't need all of garbage you're justifying.

It's all a clown show, your guy just happens to be wearing the makeup.

Obama called himself the deporter in chief and praised Homan, but liberals on F16 tell me those numbers were highly fudged and he actually deported a miniscule fraction of what was reported any time I bring this up.

Which is it?

And what evidence do you have to show that ICE wasn't operating similarly back then? You probably think the border detention facilities were different too.

My biggest concern is safe cities for my offspring. Every blue city has gotten more and more dangerous and disgusting over the last decade or two. I am pleased by how many gang bangers and rapists and pedos are being snatched off the streets. It's my fav thing about this admin.

Your boy Biden really effed up by just letting millions and millions of unvetted people in for political purposes. The cleanup project is MASSIVE.

Wow, this thread blew up while I was at lunch.

I'm not going to speak on the drivel that comes out of F16 because I simply don't care about it. This is me speaking on my own. Trump's numbers aren't that impressive given the amount of effort he's putting into this.

As far as evidence? Aside from the fact you're asking me to prove a negative, let's start with budget allocated to DHS. In 2016 it was $41B. In 2025, $6.5B (I've said it before, I'll say it again. Y'all USED to be conservative).The sheer number of detention facilities has skyrocketed as well. ICE may or may not have just purchased another facility in Lebanon, TN today(Again, this is a a clownshow of an administration, riddled with incompetence). If you're detaining that many people, your deportation rates should be comparable. The problem is the vast majority of detainees aren't from targeted operations. This is somehow justified painting them as a monolithic "gang bangers and rapists and pedos".

Since we're shifting burden of proof instead of showing our work, please show us data that blue cities are getting more dangerous. I'm not talking about anecdotal stories, either. Show your work.

I'm glad you brought Biden up. His policies sucked, full stop. The one fix he attempted in 2024 which, let's face it, was an effort to win reelection, did receive a ton of bipartisan support; more than enough to be passed. Your boy Trump just didn't want that passing. He wanted a crisis to campaign on. He wanted you to think immigrants were eating dogs and geese.
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What's awkward about your dad wanting to buy your mom a high quality gift?
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In reply to Teslag • 2:43p, 2/18/26
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1981 Monte Carlo said:
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And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.

You should really watch the throwback CNN piece from the Obama era where they did a ride-along with ICE to pimp how togh Obama was on Illegal Immigration. On camera, ICE literally apprehends and temporarily detains a legal citizen who they has confused with another man they were after. CNN goaltends for them like their life depends on it.

Absolutely no one could ever convince me that they would not paint the exact same situation under a massively different light if it happened under Trump. I mean, they obviously wouldn't do the "pro ICE" piece to begin with.


I saw it. These people don't care about illegals any further than they throw one. It's purely about orange man bad. I'll say it right now, Obama kicked ass on illegals. Major props to him for it. I'm objective. I'm consistent. Illegals are trash. Treat them like the garbage they are. Obama did it. Trump is doing it. Props to both.

That is true, have to remind ourselves that with the left, it is ALL about THEIR FEELS. And what they can project outwardly, to fellow members of the tribe. It's like they are trying to fill some type of hollow void by signaling how "noble" and "caring" they are.

That is why they are so much less charitable with their own money or time than conservatives. It's all fake and for show...and maybe to give them temprary warmn fuzzies. Also why they are statistically much less happy and satisfied with their lives and more likely to be afflicted with at least one mental illness.
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In reply to hph6203 • 2:43p, 2/18/26
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Doctors absolutely declined treating unvaccinated individuals. Was it policy? No, but you've gone from caring about the individuals in society engaging in legal activity having accidental negative consequences inflicted upon them being a bad thing (citizen detention), to not caring about the intentional negative consequences inflicted upon them for engaging in legal activity (unvaccinated not receiving services and/or having freedoms restricted).

Call me crazy, but I don't think people should have their healthcare or freedoms restricted for engaging in legal activities any more than I think U.S. citizens should be detained by ICE. One of those things is an intentional action directed against a group of people because they fall into a category (unvaccinated) the other is an error that occurred and was rectified. A post occurrence assessment of "that shouldn't have happened to either" and a post occurrence assessment of "that shouldn't have happened to the U.S. citizen detained by ICE, but the unvaccinated had it coming."

No, you should not triage care based upon vaccination status. You should triage care based upon severity and likelihood of a successful outcome. A person with two bullets in their head should probably not receive the same level of attention as a person with one in their chest, who should receive more attention than someone with one in their shoulder. That's how triage works.


I also think it's an unconscionable miscarriage of justice for the federal government to use a warrant against a man with a valid claim of illegal activity (with evidence) to acquire his private communications (justifiably) and then use that to release the private communications of uninvolved/non-evidenced based individuals contained in those communications to the public. Why am I reading the private communications of Elon Musk's, Bill Gates', Reid Hoffmann's, Howard Lutnick's etc etc.? They spoke with a convicted and released criminal and subsequently accused but not yet convicted individual? Seems like a pretty low bar for the public to get access to those correspondence. A crazy violation of privacy. Lots of people being accused of crimes as an extension of that violation.

Why did that happen? Because a collection of politicians primarily wanted to tag a single individual with evidence of child abuse/sexual crimes. Seems they could have reviewed the information privately and come to the conclusion the evidence exists or doesn't exist without violating the privacy of thousands of mostly uninvolved individuals.


1. Post some evidence (news articles) of doctors declining to treat the unvaccinated. You saying it "absolutely happened" is not going to persuade.

2. Are you coming down on the side of defending Epstein's associates from being revealed? I get that not everyone mentioned was involved, but there's a difference between being in there few times and being in there a few hundred times. Or, in the case of others, thousands of times.
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In reply to hph6203 • 2:46p, 2/18/26
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What's awkward about your dad wanting to buy your mom a high quality gift?

quality isnt a word I'd use to describe that item.

We actually had a decent convo about it. I told him he'd be buying a real working watch, but just know its not made in america nor will it be likely to be appraised for the price is going for so if you're good with that, then go ahead.
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2:49p, 2/18/26
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Yep, decades

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In reply to Teslag • 2:53p, 2/18/26
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Yep, decades


Yup, y'all got taken by a conman.

He only filed for bankruptcy 5 times after this commercial.
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:54p, 2/18/26
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hph6203 said:
Doctors absolutely declined treating unvaccinated individuals. Was it policy? No, but you've gone from caring about the individuals in society engaging in legal activity having accidental negative consequences inflicted upon them being a bad thing (citizen detention), to not caring about the intentional negative consequences inflicted upon them for engaging in legal activity (unvaccinated not receiving services and/or having freedoms restricted).

Call me crazy, but I don't think people should have their healthcare or freedoms restricted for engaging in legal activities any more than I think U.S. citizens should be detained by ICE. One of those things is an intentional action directed against a group of people because they fall into a category (unvaccinated) the other is an error that occurred and was rectified. A post occurrence assessment of "that shouldn't have happened to either" and a post occurrence assessment of "that shouldn't have happened to the U.S. citizen detained by ICE, but the unvaccinated had it coming."

No, you should not triage care based upon vaccination status. You should triage care based upon severity and likelihood of a successful outcome. A person with two bullets in their head should probably not receive the same level of attention as a person with one in their chest, who should receive more attention than someone with one in their shoulder. That's how triage works.


I also think it's an unconscionable miscarriage of justice for the federal government to use a warrant against a man with a valid claim of illegal activity (with evidence) to acquire his private communications (justifiably) and then use that to release the private communications of uninvolved/non-evidenced based individuals contained in those communications to the public. Why am I reading the private communications of Elon Musk's, Bill Gates', Reid Hoffmann's, Howard Lutnick's etc etc.? They spoke with a convicted and released criminal and subsequently accused but not yet convicted individual? Seems like a pretty low bar for the public to get access to those correspondence. A crazy violation of privacy. Lots of people being accused of crimes as an extension of that violation.

Why did that happen? Because a collection of politicians primarily wanted to tag a single individual with evidence of child abuse/sexual crimes. Seems they could have reviewed the information privately and come to the conclusion the evidence exists or doesn't exist without violating the privacy of thousands of mostly uninvolved individuals.


1. Post some evidence (news articles) of doctors declining to treat the unvaccinated. You saying it "absolutely happened" is not going to persuade.

2. Are you coming down on the side of defending Epstein's associates from being revealed? I get that not everyone mentioned was involved, but there's a difference between being in there few times and being in there a few hundred times. Or, in the case of others, thousands of times.

I'll be honest, if someone was in there thousands of times, even if Obama, I would strongly suspect that to be more of a result of their position in society, and what they potentially bring to the table (from Epstein's perspective), as opposed to thinking that means they were the worst pedo offenders bc their name comes up the most. Of course president Trump is going to be mentioned quite a bit...the sex stuff was a tiny fraction of Epstein's focus. Even if he was mentioned in there for perverted stuff a few times, I would be the vast majority of mentions would be due to his position.

That being said, if you are right, and he did indeed molest children. I would strongly advocate for unthinkable punishment, right alongside you. And even if statutory in nature with 16-17 yr olds, lock him up. I have zero tolerance for any of that...especially from people I have directly supported (my pastor as another real world example).

I just need to see more...and I have seen enough hoaxes from the left that I just don't take their word for it anymore.
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In reply to 1981 Monte Carlo • 2:55p, 2/18/26
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1981 Monte Carlo said:
Teslag said:
1981 Monte Carlo said:
Teslag said:
And I don't care what we do with these illegals. Round them up, beat the **** out of them, and toss them back across either border. Shoot anyone that gets in ICE's way. Don't care. GTFO.

You should really watch the throwback CNN piece from the Obama era where they did a ride-along with ICE to pimp how togh Obama was on Illegal Immigration. On camera, ICE literally apprehends and temporarily detains a legal citizen who they has confused with another man they were after. CNN goaltends for them like their life depends on it.

Absolutely no one could ever convince me that they would not paint the exact same situation under a massively different light if it happened under Trump. I mean, they obviously wouldn't do the "pro ICE" piece to begin with.


I saw it. These people don't care about illegals any further than they throw one. It's purely about orange man bad. I'll say it right now, Obama kicked ass on illegals. Major props to him for it. I'm objective. I'm consistent. Illegals are trash. Treat them like the garbage they are. Obama did it. Trump is doing it. Props to both.

That is true, have to remind ourselves that with the left, it is ALL about THEIR FEELS. And what they can project outwardly, to fellow members of the tribe. It's like they are trying to fill some type of hollow void by signaling how "noble" and "caring" they are.

That is why they are so much less charitable with their own money or time than conservatives. It's all fake and for show...and maybe to give them temprary warmn fuzzies. Also why they are statistically much less happy and satisfied with their lives and more likely to be afflicted with at least one mental illness.


This is hilarious. Everything about the Trump movement is about emotion.

A lot of anger, directed at political opponents.

Even more fear, directed at immigrants, trans people, minorites

Nostalgia, for a time that never really existed

Also weirdly, lust. All the women in the Trump sphere have big fake tits, ****ed up faces, dyed hair

Jealousy, mostly at the highly educated, who don't fall for the Trump BS

Adoration, for billionaires, whom they all want to be
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:58p, 2/18/26
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hph6203 said:
Doctors absolutely declined treating unvaccinated individuals. Was it policy? No, but you've gone from caring about the individuals in society engaging in legal activity having accidental negative consequences inflicted upon them being a bad thing (citizen detention), to not caring about the intentional negative consequences inflicted upon them for engaging in legal activity (unvaccinated not receiving services and/or having freedoms restricted).

Call me crazy, but I don't think people should have their healthcare or freedoms restricted for engaging in legal activities any more than I think U.S. citizens should be detained by ICE. One of those things is an intentional action directed against a group of people because they fall into a category (unvaccinated) the other is an error that occurred and was rectified. A post occurrence assessment of "that shouldn't have happened to either" and a post occurrence assessment of "that shouldn't have happened to the U.S. citizen detained by ICE, but the unvaccinated had it coming."

No, you should not triage care based upon vaccination status. You should triage care based upon severity and likelihood of a successful outcome. A person with two bullets in their head should probably not receive the same level of attention as a person with one in their chest, who should receive more attention than someone with one in their shoulder. That's how triage works.


I also think it's an unconscionable miscarriage of justice for the federal government to use a warrant against a man with a valid claim of illegal activity (with evidence) to acquire his private communications (justifiably) and then use that to release the private communications of uninvolved/non-evidenced based individuals contained in those communications to the public. Why am I reading the private communications of Elon Musk's, Bill Gates', Reid Hoffmann's, Howard Lutnick's etc etc.? They spoke with a convicted and released criminal and subsequently accused but not yet convicted individual? Seems like a pretty low bar for the public to get access to those correspondence. A crazy violation of privacy. Lots of people being accused of crimes as an extension of that violation.

Why did that happen? Because a collection of politicians primarily wanted to tag a single individual with evidence of child abuse/sexual crimes. Seems they could have reviewed the information privately and come to the conclusion the evidence exists or doesn't exist without violating the privacy of thousands of mostly uninvolved individuals.


1. Post some evidence (news articles) of doctors declining to treat the unvaccinated. You saying it "absolutely happened" is not going to persuade.

2. Are you coming down on the side of defending Epstein's associates from being revealed? I get that not everyone mentioned was involved, but there's a difference between being in there few times and being in there a few hundred times. Or, in the case of others, thousands of times.

1. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alabama-doctor-pledges-stop-treating-unvaccinated-patients-n1277316

Quote:
Effective Oct. 1, 2021, Dr. Valentine will no longer see patients that are not vaccinated against COVID-19."


"Oh, so one doctor said it, blah blah" <-Predictable response. You think every doctor announced it so clearly? You think every doctor provided the same level of care while holding the same perspective as you?

2. This is a conclusion derived from things not stated. His co-conspirators should be brought to justice if any of them exist. I don't think this method is the appropriate way to do that. Do you think the only way to uncover who was involved in Epstein's activities is publishing his correspondence, related or unrelated, for all the world to see? No. Obviously not. There is no difference between an individual being mentioned one time, and an individual being mentioned 1000's of times. The difference between them is a matter of notoriety difference between the two individuals.

Have you gone through any of the e-mails? I've reviewed over 2000. Most of them are wildly innocuous correspondence, none of them were direct evidence of a crime being committed.
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I just need to see more...and I have seen enough hoaxes from the left that I just don't take their word for it anymore.


How do you feel about the administration redacting things in violation of the law that was passed or just refusing to release all of the documents?

Does their double speak on this make you suspicious at all?
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Teslag said:
Yep, decades


Yup, y'all got taken by a conman.

He only filed for bankruptcy 5 times after this commercial.


Yall? I never voted for Trump in a primary. In the general I only voted for him for policy and because I absolutely loathe liberals with every fiber of my being.
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In reply to Teslag • 3:01p, 2/18/26
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Teslag said:
Whos Juan said:
Teslag said:
Yep, decades


Yup, y'all got taken by a conman.

He only filed for bankruptcy 5 times after this commercial.


Yall? I never voted for Trump in a primary. In the general I only voted for him for policy and because I absolutely loathe liberals with every fiber of my being.

Yet you're defending him to the tooth here. That's not the flex you think it is.
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