Dade Phelan 2.0?!

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HammerHeadAg said:

Pretty hypocritical of Patrick to complain about this when he takes tons of cash from Wilks and Dunn. He's not better than Phelan.
Dan Patrick is not lying to the public and obstructing the people's business. Dade Phelan is.
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The System said:

"It doesn't matter what your constituents want! You have to be lock step 100% of the time with Tea Party religious extremist Dan Patrick or you are not a true republican and must be kicked out of the party."
- F16

Please. The only reason you care is because you vehemently oppose school choice. That's fine, but stop squealing about representation.
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Twice an Aggie said:

Nope - you follow the rules you voted to adopt and agreed to follow. You don't get to court Democrats when you don't like the results or to prevent the expected results. Now, if you wish to not have to follow a set of caucas rules, you can always choose not to caucus with Republicans. Either way, direct violation of rules has consequences - not removal from office, but it can have consequences for being in a party. All major parties do these types of things around the world. Taking the title, money and support from a party means agreeing to follow their rules. Not a Patrick thing or an Abbott thing...it is a simple thing. I bet you would think differently if this happened in DC...and a small number of Republicans took the gavel by making deals with the Democrats (or vice versa if that is your viewing lens).

I find the strategy Dade and other GOP members are employing to be refreshing. It's a FAFO moment for the cartel GOP who went and primaried the ones who stood by their constituents against the voucher scam. Some of those that lost, supported Abbot and the party 99.9% of the time, but because they didn't align with school choice, they were primaried. Furthermore, their opponents didn't even run on school choice in the primary. Instead, they used outside money and influence to paint the picture that their opponents were pro-trans, soft on the border, democrats. It was all lies. Now Abbot and Patrick are acting like they have some school choice mandate. When you are dishonest and dirty, expect to be repaid with similar tactics.

If they want to do that, that's fine. Just be honest and either run as an independent or a democrat. But they didn't. They wanted to capitlizae as being Republicans on the ballot and secure GOP funding.
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Teslag said:

The System said:

Twice an Aggie said:

Nope - you follow the rules you voted to adopt and agreed to follow. You don't get to court Democrats when you don't like the results or to prevent the expected results. Now, if you wish to not have to follow a set of caucas rules, you can always choose not to caucus with Republicans. Either way, direct violation of rules has consequences - not removal from office, but it can have consequences for being in a party. All major parties do these types of things around the world. Taking the title, money and support from a party means agreeing to follow their rules. Not a Patrick thing or an Abbott thing...it is a simple thing. I bet you would think differently if this happened in DC...and a small number of Republicans took the gavel by making deals with the Democrats (or vice versa if that is your viewing lens).

I find the strategy Dade and other GOP members are employing to be refreshing. It's a FAFO moment for the cartel GOP who went and primaried the ones who stood by their constituents against the voucher scam. Some of those that lost, supported Abbot and the party 99.9% of the time, but because they didn't align with school choice, they were primaried. Furthermore, their opponents didn't even run on school choice in the primary. Instead, they used outside money and influence to paint the picture that their opponents were pro-trans, soft on the border, democrats. It was all lies. Now Abbot and Patrick are acting like they have some school choice mandate. When you are dishonest and dirty, expect to be repaid with similar tactics.

If they want to do that, that's fine. Just be honest and either run as an independent or a democrat. But they didn't. They wanted to capitlizae as being Republicans on the ballot and secure GOP funding.

So you read my post about how dishonest and disingenuous Abbott and Patrick were during the primary , and your response is Dade and others just need to be honest and run as an independent. Laughable!
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So you read my post about how dishonest and disingenuous Abbott and Patrick were during the primary , and your response is Dade and others just need to be honest and run as an independent. Laughable!

None of what Abbott or Patrick has done is remotely in the stratosphere as bad as aligning with ****ing Democrats and giving them any semblance of power or say. That is literally the last thing any Republican should do. If you want to do that **** run as an Independent or Republican.

Phelan and crew had a chance to pitch their views in a Republican caucus. That was the place for dissent. They lost.
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The System said:

Teslag said:

The System said:

Twice an Aggie said:

Nope - you follow the rules you voted to adopt and agreed to follow. You don't get to court Democrats when you don't like the results or to prevent the expected results. Now, if you wish to not have to follow a set of caucas rules, you can always choose not to caucus with Republicans. Either way, direct violation of rules has consequences - not removal from office, but it can have consequences for being in a party. All major parties do these types of things around the world. Taking the title, money and support from a party means agreeing to follow their rules. Not a Patrick thing or an Abbott thing...it is a simple thing. I bet you would think differently if this happened in DC...and a small number of Republicans took the gavel by making deals with the Democrats (or vice versa if that is your viewing lens).

I find the strategy Dade and other GOP members are employing to be refreshing. It's a FAFO moment for the cartel GOP who went and primaried the ones who stood by their constituents against the voucher scam. Some of those that lost, supported Abbot and the party 99.9% of the time, but because they didn't align with school choice, they were primaried. Furthermore, their opponents didn't even run on school choice in the primary. Instead, they used outside money and influence to paint the picture that their opponents were pro-trans, soft on the border, democrats. It was all lies. Now Abbot and Patrick are acting like they have some school choice mandate. When you are dishonest and dirty, expect to be repaid with similar tactics.

If they want to do that, that's fine. Just be honest and either run as an independent or a democrat. But they didn't. They wanted to capitlizae as being Republicans on the ballot and secure GOP funding.

So you read my post about how dishonest and disingenuous Abbott and Patrick were during the primary , and your response is Dade and others just need to be honest and run as an independent. Laughable!


Abbott is a power-usurping moron. Patrick is just a moron. They both need replaced.

Phelan makes them look competent.

Bye, Dade!
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The System said:

Twice an Aggie said:

Nope - you follow the rules you voted to adopt and agreed to follow. You don't get to court Democrats when you don't like the results or to prevent the expected results. Now, if you wish to not have to follow a set of caucas rules, you can always choose not to caucus with Republicans. Either way, direct violation of rules has consequences - not removal from office, but it can have consequences for being in a party. All major parties do these types of things around the world. Taking the title, money and support from a party means agreeing to follow their rules. Not a Patrick thing or an Abbott thing...it is a simple thing. I bet you would think differently if this happened in DC...and a small number of Republicans took the gavel by making deals with the Democrats (or vice versa if that is your viewing lens).

I find the strategy Dade and other GOP members are employing to be refreshing. It's a FAFO moment for the cartel GOP who went and primaried the ones who stood by their constituents against the voucher scam. Some of those that lost, supported Abbot and the party 99.9% of the time, but because they didn't align with school choice, they were primaried. Furthermore, their opponents didn't even run on school choice in the primary. Instead, they used outside money and influence to paint the picture that their opponents were pro-trans, soft on the border, democrats. It was all lies. Now Abbot and Patrick are acting like they have some school choice mandate. When you are dishonest and dirty, expect to be repaid with similar tactics.
LMAO.

They didn't run on school choice?

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House District 121 has long been held by Republicans, but this will be LaHood's first time representing the district. He defeated current State Rep. Steve Allison in the Republican primary after receiving Gov. Greg Abbott's endorsement.

LaHood said his top priorities in the next legislative session will be securing the border and private school choice.

"I was never bashful. School choice, education are probably my number one priority, number two, tied with the border," said LaHood at an election night watch party at The Angry Elephant.

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chool Choice

School Choice is of paramount importance in the realm of education as it empowers parents and students to make informed decisions about their personal learning journey.
Joan Shofner
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Safeguarding Our Children: Championing the future of our youngest citizens, focusing on their safety, well-being, and access to quality education is of utmost importance. Joanne will put an end to the sexualization of children through indoctrination in schools and strongarm big-tech and other predators from preying on innocent children. Joanne strongly believes that parents should have the right to send their kids to the school of their choice using their own taxpayer dollars. Joanne is 100% pro-life.

As far as funding goes,
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Dallas, TX The American Federation for Children is pleased to announce the official launch of AFC Victory Fund, a national Super PAC that will take AFC's work of championing school choice and empowering parents to the next level.

During the 2024 election cycle, AFCVF will be a powerful force in state legislative races nationwide, devoting at least $10 million in support of school choice champions and against opponents.

I'm glad they got involved in primarying candidates that didn't reflect their constituents..

There is NOTHING dishonest or dirty about what happened to primary the politicians that voted against school choice. Those politicians made their "choice" and lost their jobs because they didn't represent the people in their district, who voted for the VERY VOCAL school choice candidate.
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It's a FAFO moment for the cartel GOP who went and primaried the ones who stood by their constituents against the voucher scam.
And there it is. A one issue voter who will back anyone who is against school choice. All other topics, irrelevant.
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CDUB98 said:

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It's a FAFO moment for the cartel GOP who went and primaried the ones who stood by their constituents against the voucher scam.
And there it is. A one issue voter who will back anyone who is against school choice. All other topics, irrelevant.
What is hilarious is the fact that
1. These candidates were very vocal on their stance on vouchers
2. The stance on vouchers was in many cases the ONLY differential between the winning candidate and the one primaried
3. The incumbent is so powerful, it takes alot of effort on the challenging candidate as well as a very strong will of the people who actually vote

Yet, this guy says these losing incumbents "stood by their constituents against the voter scam".

It's extremely clear that in every case, the constituents supported the vouchers and voted in the candidate that actually stood by them.
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Science Denier said:

CDUB98 said:

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It's a FAFO moment for the cartel GOP who went and primaried the ones who stood by their constituents against the voucher scam.
And there it is. A one issue voter who will back anyone who is against school choice. All other topics, irrelevant.
What is hilarious is the fact that
1. These candidates were very vocal on their stance on vouchers
2. The stance on vouchers was in many cases the ONLY differential between the winning candidate and the one primaried
3. The incumbent is so powerful, it takes alot of effort on the challenging candidate as well as a very strong will of the people who actually vote

Yet, this guy says these losing incumbents "stood by their constituents against the voter scam".

It's extremely clear that in every case, the constituents supported the vouchers and voted in the candidate that actually stood by them.


Truth
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This is about the Texas House and "republicans" attempting to subvert the will of Texas voters who put them into office. Some political careers are going to be ended.
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Dustin Burrows helped write the GOP Caucus Rules that bind party members to the caucus nominee and is now blatantly breaking them.

Burrows also was forced to resign as the previous GOP Caucus Chair when he and Bonnen tried to bribe MQS to limit his opposition to 10 GOP incumbents to get media access in the legislature.

He would be a continuation of the Straus/Bonnen/Phelan obstructionist speaker run since 2009 that has limited conservative legislation in Texas. Texas is only one of 3 remaining states that allow minority party chairs of committees.

The latest count is 57 Republican Cook supporters, 31 Burrowcrats, and 62 Democrats. If Burrows can't get anough Democrats, there will likely be a proposed alternative nominee that will of course come from the Straus/Bonnen/Phelan/Burrow faction.

It's time to put an end to the Texas House Speaker Obstructionist Period.

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Ask yourself why Third Coast Bank, with Reps. Bonnen, Bonnen, Burrows, Harris & Phelan, have as the two largest shareholders in a "small town bank" the investment companies BlackRock and Vanguard?

The very same BlackRock & Vanguard that have strongly supported AND FUNDED left wing racist and globalist agendas such as DEI, ESG & carbon capture.

Larry Fink who is the Chairman and CEO of Blackrock also sits on the boards of the Council on Foreign Relations and the World Economic Forum aka the W.E.F.
- The Patriot Lyricist, via X

And here, coincidentally, the cabal that has run the Texas legislature for almost 10 years is deep in bed with these two companies.

And here I thought a small town bank was normally owned by locals who are impacting their community.
The more you know....
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The core issue at stake is whether the Democrats or the Republicans in the Texas House get to choose the speaker.

Everything else is just noise.

Any Republican who chooses to collaborate with the Democrats to keep the majority of the Republicans in the Texas House from choosing the speaker is directly thwarting the will of the electorate.
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jrdaustin said:

Ask yourself why Third Coast Bank, with Reps. Bonnen, Bonnen, Burrows, Harris & Phelan, have as the two largest shareholders in a "small town bank" the investment companies BlackRock and Vanguard?

The very same BlackRock & Vanguard that have strongly supported AND FUNDED left wing racist and globalist agendas such as DEI, ESG & carbon capture.

Larry Fink who is the Chairman and CEO of Blackrock also sits on the boards of the Council on Foreign Relations and the World Economic Forum aka the W.E.F.
- The Patriot Lyricist, via X

And here, coincidentally, the cabal that has run the Texas legislature for almost 10 years is deep in bed with these two companies.

And here I thought a small town bank was normally owned by locals who are impacting their community.
The more you know....
Again - not a conspiracy. Go look at EVERY bank. I think the biggest conspiracy is that Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street are the largest shareholders in almost every bank. Just picked a few of the "peers" of Third Coast:

- Comerica
Blackrock 1st - 13.5%
Vanguard 2nd - 7.0%
- Frost
Blackrock 3rd - 8.3%
Vanguard 1st - 9.8%
- Guaranty
Blackrock 3rd - 4.9%
Vanguard 4th - 4.0%
- Hilltop (Plains Capital)
Blackrock 2nd - 10.7%
Vanguard 3rd - 8.2%
- Stellar
Blackrock 1st - 13.5%
Vanguard 2nd - 7.0%
- Texas Capital
Blackrock 1st - 11.0%
Vanguard 2nd - 10.1%
- Third Coast
Blackrock 1st - 5.7%
Vanguard 2nd - 4.6%
- Veritex
Blackrock 1st - 13.5%
Vanguard 2nd - 7%
- Zions
Blackrock 2nd - 8.3%
Vanguard 1st - 12.7%
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Email address to contact the Burrowcrats:

keith.bell@house.texas.gov
greg.bonnen@house.texas.gov
brad.buckley@house.texas.gov
dustin.burrows@house.texas.gov
angie.button@house.texas.gov
giovanni.capriglione@house.texas.gov
drew.darby@house.texas.gov
jay.dean@house.texas.gov
gary.gates@house.texas.gov
stan.gerdes@house.texas.gov
charlie.geren@house.texas.gov
ryan.guillen@house.texas.gov
cody.harris@house.texas.gov
cole.hefner@house.texas.gov
lacey.hull@house.texas.gov;
todd.hunter@house.texas.gov
ken.king@house.texas.gov
stan.kitzman@house.texas.gov
stan.lambert@house.texas.gov
brooks.landgraf@house.texas.gov
jeff.leach@house.texas.gov
john.mcqueeney@house.texas.gov
will.metcalf@house.texas.gov
morgan.meyer@house.texas.gov
angelia.orr@house.texas.gov
jared.patterson@house.texas.gov
dade.phelan@house.texas.gov
carl.tepper@house.texas.gov
gary.vandeaver@house.texas.gov
terry.wilson@house.texas.gov
denise.villalobos@house.texas.gov ???
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cgh1999 said:

jrdaustin said:

Ask yourself why Third Coast Bank, with Reps. Bonnen, Bonnen, Burrows, Harris & Phelan, have as the two largest shareholders in a "small town bank" the investment companies BlackRock and Vanguard?

The very same BlackRock & Vanguard that have strongly supported AND FUNDED left wing racist and globalist agendas such as DEI, ESG & carbon capture.

Larry Fink who is the Chairman and CEO of Blackrock also sits on the boards of the Council on Foreign Relations and the World Economic Forum aka the W.E.F.
- The Patriot Lyricist, via X

And here, coincidentally, the cabal that has run the Texas legislature for almost 10 years is deep in bed with these two companies.

And here I thought a small town bank was normally owned by locals who are impacting their community.
The more you know....
Again - not a conspiracy. Go look at EVERY bank. I think the biggest conspiracy is that Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street are the largest shareholders in almost every bank. Just picked a few of the "peers" of Third Coast:

- Comerica
Blackrock 1st - 13.5%
Vanguard 2nd - 7.0%
- Frost
Blackrock 3rd - 8.3%
Vanguard 1st - 9.8%
- Guaranty
Blackrock 3rd - 4.9%
Vanguard 4th - 4.0%
- Hilltop (Plains Capital)
Blackrock 2nd - 10.7%
Vanguard 3rd - 8.2%
- Stellar
Blackrock 1st - 13.5%
Vanguard 2nd - 7.0%
- Texas Capital
Blackrock 1st - 11.0%
Vanguard 2nd - 10.1%
- Third Coast
Blackrock 1st - 5.7%
Vanguard 2nd - 4.6%
- Veritex
Blackrock 1st - 13.5%
Vanguard 2nd - 7%
- Zions
Blackrock 2nd - 8.3%
Vanguard 1st - 12.7%
Never said it was a conspiracy.

I'm saying that it's noteworthy that the same group that owns the same bank that has BR and Vanguard as primary investors has had a stranglehold on Texas Government for the last decade.

And it's noteworthy that those same investors have a strong left-lean in their philisophical stance.

As Patrick said, nothing illegal about it. Not a conspiracy. But it's still noteworthy in light of the games now being played by Burrows, who assisted in writing the Rules for the caucus that he's now going against.

ETA: And I beg to differ. It's not EVERY bank. There are still still successful hometown banks that don't rely on BR or Vanguard for their ownership interests.
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I think we should all have a problem with blackrock, vanguard, state street, etc. There are definitely community banks that don't have those companies with significant ownership…but they're not publicly traded and are harder and harder to find.

My point is there are a lot of things to have issue with Dade Phelan about, but other than investing in a bank that his brother founded (and is no longer affiliated with) he has no control over the bank.
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cgh1999 said:

I think we should all have a problem with blackrock, vanguard, state street, etc. There are definitely community banks that don't have those companies with significant ownership…but they're not publicly traded and are harder and harder to find.

My point is there are a lot of things to have issue with Dade Phelan about, but other than investing in a bank that his brother founded (and is no longer affiliated with) he has no control over the bank.
Oh, I get that and I'm not concerned about Phelan's control over the bank.

That's the least of my worries.

I'm more concerned that a group of Reps who have executed control over the LEGISLATURE are under the potential influence of BR & Vanguard, both of which are known to actively influence legislation and social engineering.

Very dangerous bedfellows, and that makes me wonder that perhaps their control of the legislature is no coincidence at all.
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What will the Texas House do today?

Will Phelan and his cronies vote to allow democrats to run the Texas government, or will they act ethically and represent their constituents?

Texas is watching. People will be primaried.
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Anybody know what time this vote is going down today?
Tough times don't last, tough people do
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sethags said:

Anybody know what time this vote is going down today?
Noon.
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EMOUGH! Primary every "Republican" who has sided with the Demonrats. Kick those lying, cheating, ***holes out! They are democrats in "Republican" cloths. That's it! End of story.

Until the next primary censure their *****. Maybe some can be recalled. I'm so sick of the weasels in the legislature, and those who support them with their lies.
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Who is this *****? It looks like the turn coats are trying the liberal "billionaires trying to buy our state" lie.

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/1i12vrh/texas_representative_pleads_with_the_texas_people/
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aTmAg said:

Who is this *****? It looks like the turn coats are trying the liberal "billionaires trying to buy our state" lie.

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/1i12vrh/texas_representative_pleads_with_the_texas_people/
I'm seeing video no longer available. Is it my work filter, or has the video been taken down?
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aTmAg said:

Who is this *****? It looks like the turn coats are trying the liberal "billionaires trying to buy our state" lie.

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/1i12vrh/texas_representative_pleads_with_the_texas_people/
That is Texas democrat James Talerico, one of Dade's Democrat co-conspirators. Just another garden-variety liar.

They're taking Texans for fools.
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Science Denier said:

aTmAg said:

Who is this *****? It looks like the turn coats are trying the liberal "billionaires trying to buy our state" lie.

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/1i12vrh/texas_representative_pleads_with_the_texas_people/
I'm seeing video no longer available. Is it my work filter, or has the video been taken down?
Still works for me
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Science Denier said:

aTmAg said:

Who is this *****? It looks like the turn coats are trying the liberal "billionaires trying to buy our state" lie.

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/1i12vrh/texas_representative_pleads_with_the_texas_people/
I'm seeing video no longer available. Is it my work filter, or has the video been taken down?
Its a democrat saying he and Dade and Co. are trying to protect Texas from a couple of rich west Texas billionaires.

Weird since there is radical left wing money on the side of Dade and the other fake republicans. They believe democrats should run the Texas government.
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So now the Phelan group is trying to align with anti Oil & Gas Democrats in Texas of all places in their zeal for power?
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aTmAg said:

Who is this *****? It looks like the turn coats are trying the liberal "billionaires trying to buy our state" lie.

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/1i12vrh/texas_representative_pleads_with_the_texas_people/
He's a Democrat from Round Rock. Went to t.u.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

aTmAg said:

Who is this *****? It looks like the turn coats are trying the liberal "billionaires trying to buy our state" lie.

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/1i12vrh/texas_representative_pleads_with_the_texas_people/
That is Texas democrat James Talerico, one of Dade's Democrat co-conspirators. Just another garden-variety liar.

They're taking Texans for fools.
So who's bigger and who has more money to spend?

The two West Texas guys that Talerico is crying about, or BlackRock and Vanguard?

My money is on the Trillion dollar leftists. Talerico is waving a false flag.
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There will be a lot of tears in here after lunch today, when Cook realizes he doesn't have the votes and Burrows is named SOH.

The System always wins.
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The System said:

There will be a lot of tears in here after lunch today, when Cook realizes he doesn't have the votes and Burrows is named SOH.

The System always wins.
As there should be. If that happens then it would be a travesty. Do you agree?
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The System said:

There will be a lot of tears in here after lunch today, when Cook realizes he doesn't have the votes and Burrows is named SOH.

The System always wins.

Why shouldn't we be upset? You literally have "Republicans" aligning with Democrats to undermine the will of voters.

And you'll be here in two years crying because those same voter dared primary the people who refuse to represent their voice.
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Noctilucent said:

EMOUGH! Primary every "Republican" who has sided with the Demonrats. Kick those lying, cheating, ***holes out! They are democrats in "Republican" cloths. That's it! End of story.

Until the next primary censure their *****. Maybe some can be recalled. I'm so sick of the weasels in the legislature, and those who support them with their lies.
Yes, and more importantly, follow through with the sanction of prohibiting them from running in future Republican primaries. If they want to vote for the Democrat-endorsed speaker they are cutting short their own political careers.
 
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