Politics of the crash.

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Silent For Too Long
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Here guys. Post it here. Staph made it clear they don't want it on the main thread.

I'll kick this bad boy off by reiterating: F DEI and I fully support Trump using any opportunity he can to bring it down.
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In all honesty, I think it's pretty premature to be blaming DEI for this crash, or to even assume that there is anything political about this crash.
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No surprise his most ardent supports care little about reality.

The liberal CNN host baselessly blaming trump is evil.

Trump baselessly blaming DEI is good.

In reality, both are moronic.
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I can tell you this much, if I get on a plane and look in the cockpit and it's full of multicultural women...

I'm taking the train
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'any opportunity' leaves the door open very wide into all sorts of interesting approaches.

I don't like conclusions being delivered before investigations have even been started, and that's not political. We're less than 24 hours into this incident and I find it hard to believe that a conclusive finding has been delivered.
Consistency: It's only a virtue if you're not a screw-up.
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fightintxag13 said:

In all honesty, I think it's pretty premature to be blaming DEI for this crash, or to even assume that there is anything political about this crash.
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Prime0882 said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Here guys. Post it here. Staph made it clear they don't want it on the main thread.

I'll kick this bad boy off by reiterating: F DEI and I fully support Trump using any opportunity he can to bring it down.
Cool. Within twelve hours of the crash while bodies are still being searched for is the correct time? Score political points after the investigation is completed. Or, if you cannot wait until the investigation is completed - until you can even say YES or NO to IF someone was involved was a possible DEI hire.

He has "common sense" and "figured" it was a DEI hire.

WTF.

This thread is to discuss the POLITICS of the crash!

What about that do not you understand?

SMH

eta: evidently Trump eluded to DEI during his presser on the matter
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Never let a crisis go to waste just doing what the dems taught me
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Trump being Trump today with his comments. This is the type of thing that has blowback and got him bogged down the first time. I am sure Susie Wiles is pulling her hair out.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Trump being Trump today with his comments. This is the type of thing that has blowback and got him bogged down the first time. I am sure Susie Wiles is pulling her hair out.


Meh this will be out of the news cycle in a week
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Oh, cool. I'll post it again. Trump is being a complete piece of **** on this one.

There's no place for speculation in aviation. It's facts and that's it. Facts save lives. The NTSB will figure out what happened, like they always have. Reminder this hasn't happened since 2009.

(speculation in this case meaning through official channels. We can speculate until we're blue in the face here)
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pollo hermanos said:

No surprise his most ardent supports care little about reality.

The liberal CNN host baselessly blaming trump is evil.

Trump baselessly blaming DEI is good.

In reality, both are moronic.

Trump did not blame DEI.

But here is what Obama did...

During the Obama administration, changes were made to the Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) hiring practices for air traffic controllers, particularly with an emphasis on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Here's an analysis based on available information:

Key Changes:
Shift from Merit-Based to Diversity-Based Hiring:
Biographical Questionnaire: The FAA introduced a biographical questionnaire (BQ) in place of or in addition to the traditional Air Traffic Selection and Training (AT-SAT) exam. This BQ was designed to assess personal background and experiences, aiming to increase diversity among air traffic controllers. Questions in the BQ included personal details like participation in high school sports or major causes of failures, which critics argued were less relevant to the job's technical demands.

Reduction in Emphasis on Cognitive Testing:
Prior to these changes, the AT-SAT was a significant part of the selection process, focusing on cognitive skills crucial for air traffic control. The move to include the BQ was perceived as diminishing the importance of this test, which had shown bias towards white applicants due to its focus on cognitive abilities traditionally measured in standardized testing.

Impact on Qualified Applicants:
The policy changes led to a situation where many applicants who had previously been considered well-qualified under the old system (those with degrees from Collegiate Training Initiative (CTI) schools and high AT-SAT scores) were no longer given preference or were even excluded from the hiring process. This caused significant controversy, as it was seen as prioritizing diversity over merit.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Trump being Trump today with his comments. This is the type of thing that has blowback and got him bogged down the first time. I am sure Susie Wiles is pulling her hair out.


Yet he beat Kamala handily.
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And Trump is term limited. He can say whatever the **** he wants to now
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Logos Stick said:

pollo hermanos said:

No surprise his most ardent supports care little about reality.

The liberal CNN host baselessly blaming trump is evil.

Trump baselessly blaming DEI is good.

In reality, both are moronic.

Trump did not blame DEI.

But here is what Obama did...

During the Obama administration, changes were made to the Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) hiring practices for air traffic controllers, particularly with an emphasis on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Here's an analysis based on available information:

Key Changes:
Shift from Merit-Based to Diversity-Based Hiring:
Biographical Questionnaire: The FAA introduced a biographical questionnaire (BQ) in place of or in addition to the traditional Air Traffic Selection and Training (AT-SAT) exam. This BQ was designed to assess personal background and experiences, aiming to increase diversity among air traffic controllers. Questions in the BQ included personal details like participation in high school sports or major causes of failures, which critics argued were less relevant to the job's technical demands.

Reduction in Emphasis on Cognitive Testing:
Prior to these changes, the AT-SAT was a significant part of the selection process, focusing on cognitive skills crucial for air traffic control. The move to include the BQ was perceived as diminishing the importance of this test, which had shown bias towards white applicants due to its focus on cognitive abilities traditionally measured in standardized testing.

Impact on Qualified Applicants:
The policy changes led to a situation where many applicants who had previously been considered well-qualified under the old system (those with degrees from Collegiate Training Initiative (CTI) schools and high AT-SAT scores) were no longer given preference or were even excluded from the hiring process. This caused significant controversy, as it was seen as prioritizing diversity over merit.

dude we have idea what the cause is. Its as dumb as the left blaming Trump and DOGE. Could either have contributed? sure but probably not. However, one of the folks talking is the ****ing president. It is ridiculous but it is expected.
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pollo hermanos said:

Logos Stick said:

pollo hermanos said:

No surprise his most ardent supports care little about reality.

The liberal CNN host baselessly blaming trump is evil.

Trump baselessly blaming DEI is good.

In reality, both are moronic.

Trump did not blame DEI.

But here is what Obama did...

During the Obama administration, changes were made to the Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) hiring practices for air traffic controllers, particularly with an emphasis on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Here's an analysis based on available information:

Key Changes:
Shift from Merit-Based to Diversity-Based Hiring:
Biographical Questionnaire: The FAA introduced a biographical questionnaire (BQ) in place of or in addition to the traditional Air Traffic Selection and Training (AT-SAT) exam. This BQ was designed to assess personal background and experiences, aiming to increase diversity among air traffic controllers. Questions in the BQ included personal details like participation in high school sports or major causes of failures, which critics argued were less relevant to the job's technical demands.

Reduction in Emphasis on Cognitive Testing:
Prior to these changes, the AT-SAT was a significant part of the selection process, focusing on cognitive skills crucial for air traffic control. The move to include the BQ was perceived as diminishing the importance of this test, which had shown bias towards white applicants due to its focus on cognitive abilities traditionally measured in standardized testing.

Impact on Qualified Applicants:
The policy changes led to a situation where many applicants who had previously been considered well-qualified under the old system (those with degrees from Collegiate Training Initiative (CTI) schools and high AT-SAT scores) were no longer given preference or were even excluded from the hiring process. This caused significant controversy, as it was seen as prioritizing diversity over merit.

dude we have idea what the cause is. Its as dumb as the left blaming Trump and DOGE. Could either have contributed? sure but probably not. However, one of the folks talking is the ****ing president. It is ridiculous but it is expected.


Dude, we know that. Trump brought up DEI. We are discussing it. Calm down!
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Prime0882 said:

Logos Stick said:

pollo hermanos said:

No surprise his most ardent supports care little about reality.

The liberal CNN host baselessly blaming trump is evil.

Trump baselessly blaming DEI is good.

In reality, both are moronic.

Trump did not blame DEI.



Did you even watch the presser? Swear it feels like 1984 on this board sometimes.


I read the transcript. Please post where he blamed DEI. Thanks.
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https://t.me/real_DonaldJTrump/17808

He posted this first thing this morning.lnbefire the kresser. I'm sure he has an idea of where he is going. If he in fact doesn't know everything at this point and just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks or to make a mess, well thats something different all together.
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Its coming from both sides. Libs are blaming Trump and Trump and is blaming DEI. I guess nothing is exempt from political bs anymore.
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fightintxag13 said:

In all honesty, I think it's pretty premature to be blaming DEI for this crash, or to even assume that there is anything political about this crash.


Is it though? Go ahead and read this thread and get back to me.

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Be Silent Longer

There is ZERO evidence at this time that DEI played any part of this. What we DO know is that 67 people are dead and 67 families lives have irrevocably changed forever. So based on that you're looking to speculate.
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Prime0882 said:

Logos Stick said:

Prime0882 said:

Logos Stick said:

pollo hermanos said:

No surprise his most ardent supports care little about reality.

The liberal CNN host baselessly blaming trump is evil.

Trump baselessly blaming DEI is good.

In reality, both are moronic.

Trump did not blame DEI.



Did you even watch the presser? Swear it feels like 1984 on this board sometimes.


I read the transcript. Please post where he blamed DEI. Thanks.





Can you post the words where he blamed DEI?
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Logos Stick said:

Prime0882 said:

Logos Stick said:

pollo hermanos said:

No surprise his most ardent supports care little about reality.

The liberal CNN host baselessly blaming trump is evil.

Trump baselessly blaming DEI is good.

In reality, both are moronic.

Trump did not blame DEI.



Did you even watch the presser? Swear it feels like 1984 on this board sometimes.


I read the transcript. Please post where he blamed DEI. Thanks.
I don't think you read the right transcript.

Cobra39
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Politically, ATC controllers are WAY overworked. I'm surprised it took this long for a catastrophic crash to happen. There are near misses almost weekly. We need to pay them more and hire more talent.

Once that's done, fire anyone who was at fault for a near miss in the past.
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Prime0882 said:

Logos Stick said:

pollo hermanos said:

No surprise his most ardent supports care little about reality.

The liberal CNN host baselessly blaming trump is evil.

Trump baselessly blaming DEI is good.

In reality, both are moronic.

Trump did not blame DEI.



Did you even watch the presser? Swear it feels like 1984 on this board sometimes.


We had four straight years of 1984; you should be used it by now.

Edit to correct verb tense.
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Political truth - probably.
Timing - too early. Finish the recovery and investigation.
Liberal pundits - who cares? They are dying off en mass right now.
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We need more air traffic controllers. That's it. That's the issue. The system got stretched and stretched until it finally broke.
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Prime0882 said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Here guys. Post it here. Staph made it clear they don't want it on the main thread.

I'll kick this bad boy off by reiterating: F DEI and I fully support Trump using any opportunity he can to bring it down.
Cool. Within twelve hours of the crash while bodies are still being searched for is the correct time? Score political points after the investigation is completed. Or, if you cannot wait until the investigation is completed - until you can even say YES or NO to IF someone was involved was a possible DEI hire.

He has "common sense" and "figured" it was a DEI hire.

WTF.


So you don't think the President of The U.S cant find out who is running the show at the disaster site? Doubt he's going to talk out of his rear without this knowledge (which could be obtained by a simple phone call.) The controller was probably a Tyrion Lannister Body Double with the mental stack of a maple leaf in a 80 mph gale.

Let me guess, you're one of those CMs I keep hearing about?
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As long as we're all speculating here - There is the possibility that Trump & team have reason to believe DEI did play a role, and are waiting for the Left's predictable reeeee-ply before making the evidence available.
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Logos Stick said:

Prime0882 said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Here guys. Post it here. Staph made it clear they don't want it on the main thread.

I'll kick this bad boy off by reiterating: F DEI and I fully support Trump using any opportunity he can to bring it down.
Cool. Within twelve hours of the crash while bodies are still being searched for is the correct time? Score political points after the investigation is completed. Or, if you cannot wait until the investigation is completed - until you can even say YES or NO to IF someone was involved was a possible DEI hire.

He has "common sense" and "figured" it was a DEI hire.

WTF.

This thread is to discuss the POLITICS of the crash!

What about that do not you understand?

SMH

eta: evidently Trump eluded to DEI during his presser on the matter


What politics?? Unless you're fine with putting the cart before the horse or are fine in making baseless assumptions, it's stupid to talk about anything politics. And I don't think insulting another poster is the way to go either, if I'm being honest.
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Prime0882 said:

Logos Stick said:

pollo hermanos said:

No surprise his most ardent supports care little about reality.

The liberal CNN host baselessly blaming trump is evil.

Trump baselessly blaming DEI is good.

In reality, both are moronic.

Trump did not blame DEI.



Did you even watch the presser? Swear it feels like 1984 on this board sometimes.
1984 was great times. Didn't get to see the presser but based on the scale of the tragedy I find this post to be very odd. What does a tragic event have to do with what was generally a very successful year for the US with the USSR being bent over a barrel.

In general, DEI absolutely compromised competence and adversely effected organizational effectiveness in a very negative way. No way one can honestly and truthfully make a case otherwise.
 
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