Measles outbreak in West Texas

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

TexasAggie73 said:

The antivaxers have been around a lot longer than Covid. It didn't help when a doctor sent out an article that vaccines caused autism. He was later proven wrong and his medical license was revoked.

He wasn't proven wrong.

He was proven to be a fraud and lost his medical license. I'd say that was pretty wrong.

https://www.livescience.com/35341-mmr-vaccine-linked-autism-study-was-elaborate-fraud.html
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doubledog said:

damiond said:

vaccines make weak people

and make rich people
My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!
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"At the expense of others lives…"

Is measles deadly? Come on…
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damiond said:

vaccines make weak people

and make rich people
Obviously you were born after polio was eradicated
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

doubledog said:

damiond said:

vaccines make weak people

and make rich people
My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!
Polio vaccine had a little something to do with it.
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Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
You can still get hurt with a seatbelt. Why wear it?

You can still drown if you learn how to swim. Why bother?
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fc2112 said:

Did not see this discussed here.

Gaines County, whose schools have one of the highest vaccine exemption rates in the state (almost 20% of the kids have vaccine exemptions), is now up to 48 confirmed cases of measles. All cases are among unvaxxed people or unknown status.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/14/health/measles-texas-outbreak/index.html

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The measles outbreak first reported in Gaines County, Texas, has doubled to 48 cases since a count released earlier this week, the Texas Department of State Health Services said Friday. The first two cases were identified in late January, and the numbers have been rising since.

Forty-two cases are reported in Gaines County. Surrounding counties have also reported cases, three in Terry County, two in Yoakum County and one in Lynn County. With the contagious nature of the disease, the state health department says it expects that more cases will be reported in Gaines County and the surrounding areas.

All of the cases are in unvaccinated people or those who have unknown vaccination status. Most cases are in children 5 to 17 years old. All experienced an onset of symptoms in the past three weeks.

I am torn on this. Parents can make choices for their children. But not choices that endanger the lives of their children.


Now they don't need the vaccine
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Jeeper79 said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
You can still get hurt with a seatbelt. Why wear it?

You can still drown if you learn how to swim. Why bother?


Now they have real immunity
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There are clearly some anti vaxxers in this thread. We're y'all anti vax before Covid or did you convert because of it?
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I remember polio very well. It was a dreaded terror of my childhood.

I, along with most of my classmates, got the Salk vaccine when it first came out in the early 50s.

The vaccine was too late for one of my classmates, who spent his life in a wheelchair.

I taught for years with a wonderful woman who used crutches all her life because the virus had hit her when there was no vaccine.

One of my classmates in high school survived the polio she contracted before the vaccine, but has suffered quite a bit in her elderly years from post-polio syndrome.

God bless those who worked to save children from this terrible illness.
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newbie11 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

doubledog said:

damiond said:

vaccines make weak people

and make rich people
My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!
Polio vaccine had a little something to do with it.

Polio was almost eradicated before the vaccine came out.
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Jeeper79 said:

There are clearly some anti vaxxers in this thread. We're y'all anti vax before Covid or did you convert because of it?

Well before COVID, but it did wake up a lot of others.
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Jeeper79 said:

There are clearly some anti vaxxers in this thread. We're y'all anti vax before Covid or did you convert because of it?


The problem is given kids 72 vaccines that have not been tested TOGETHER or to look the cumulative effects of those shots over time.

These kids in the op now have natural immunity,..

People questioning the narrative does not make them an "anti vax"
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Is it racist to call it German measles?
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Burdizzo said:

Is it racist to call it German measles?


The left only sees their own racism, e.g. Monkey Pox.
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
Vaccines do not prevent you from getting infected. They prompt the creation of antibodies that will fight the infection. Without the vaccine, it takes a period of time for the body to detect the threat and generate the antibodies. This provides the invading virus more time to multiply. The resulting damage and associated symptoms are significantly more severe.

Btw,

A coronavirus is more difficult to deal with due to its ability to evolve fairly rapidly.
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MouthBQ98 said:

MMR is one of the best tested and safest vaccines. It is flat out stupid to not have kids take that one.


If you understand what measles can really do, you understand that it's criminal abuse as well as stupid.

The current HHS secretary likely understands this quite, well, 86 dead children in American Samoa notwithstanding.
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Yep. Grew up having the mumps, the red measles, the German measles, the theee-day measles, you name it. At this point in my life, I figure I'm bulletproof.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

newbie11 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

doubledog said:

damiond said:

vaccines make weak people

and make rich people
My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!
Polio vaccine had a little something to do with it.

Polio was almost eradicated before the vaccine came out.

How?

Magic spells and wishes?
samurai_science
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Amish…very curious how they do it
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CanyonAg77 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

newbie11 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

doubledog said:

damiond said:

vaccines make weak people

and make rich people
My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!
Polio vaccine had a little something to do with it.

Polio was almost eradicated before the vaccine came out.

How?

Magic spells and wishes?


Why don't you educate yourself and look into it? The data shows it was almost gone.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

TexasAggie73 said:

The antivaxers have been around a lot longer than Covid. It didn't help when a doctor sent out an article that vaccines caused autism. He was later proven wrong and his medical license was revoked.

He wasn't proven wrong.
if the antivaxxers shout there lie loud enough and long enough the gullible will believe them
Old Army has gone to hell.
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samurai_science said:

CanyonAg77 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

newbie11 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

doubledog said:

damiond said:

vaccines make weak people

and make rich people
My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!
Polio vaccine had a little something to do with it.

Polio was almost eradicated before the vaccine came out.

How?

Magic spells and wishes?


Why don't you educate yourself and look into it? The data shows it was almost gone.


if the antivaxxers shout there lie loud enough and long enough the gullible will believe them
Old Army has gone to hell.
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samurai_science said:

Jeeper79 said:

There are clearly some anti vaxxers in this thread. We're y'all anti vax before Covid or did you convert because of it?


The problem is given kids 72 vaccines that have not been tested TOGETHER or to look the cumulative effects of those shots over time.

These kids in the op now have natural immunity,..

People questioning the narrative does not make them an "anti vax"
First off, protocol isn't even half that many.

Second, many of these are the same one given again as immunity wears off.

Third, they're all pretty common stuff.

This has been the case for how many decades?
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The Fall Guy said:

ts5641 said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?
No it couldn't be the 10's of millions of illegals from 3rd world countries bringing in disease.

But it was not. The outbreak is in thr Menonite community. Not the immigrant.

I'd bet even money that patient zero was an illegal immigrant or someone who had recent contact with an illegal immigrant.
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samurai_science said:

CanyonAg77 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

newbie11 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

doubledog said:

damiond said:

vaccines make weak people

and make rich people
My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!
Polio vaccine had a little something to do with it.

Polio was almost eradicated before the vaccine came out.

How?

Magic spells and wishes?


Why don't you educate yourself and look into it? The data shows it was almost gone.

You said it was eradicated

Now you say disappeared?
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
Vaccines do not prevent you from getting infected. They prompt the creation of antibodies that will fight the infection. Without the vaccine, it takes a period of time for the body to detect the threat and generate the antibodies. This provides the invading virus more time to multiply. The resulting damage and associated symptoms are significantly more severe.

Btw,

A coronavirus is more difficult to deal with due to its ability to evolve fairly rapidly.

One problem with vaccines is that you can sometimes get infected without showing symptoms. Therefore, you're more likely to spread it to others. There's just no good reason to take vaccines.
Then don't get vaccinated, I don't care.

Maybe you can earn a Darwin Award.
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I thought antivaxxers were the dems and gov that didn't care about all the unvaxxed illegals coming over during the covid shutdown…
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Jeeper79 said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
You can still get hurt with a seatbelt. Why wear it?

You can still drown if you learn how to swim. Why bother?

Neither a seatbelt nor learning to swim is going to POSSIBLY be detrimental to your health in other ways.

Not saying I buy in to ALL the anti- arguments, but this is a bad and irrelevant analogy.
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CheeseSndwch said:

The Fall Guy said:

ts5641 said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?
No it couldn't be the 10's of millions of illegals from 3rd world countries bringing in disease.

But it was not. The outbreak is in thr Menonite community. Not the immigrant.

I'd bet even money that patient zero was an illegal immigrant or someone who had recent contact with an illegal immigrant.

As I said earlier, I'd put even money on a Mennonite who acquired it from the Mennonite community in Mexico
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fc2112 said:

Did not see this discussed here.

Gaines County, whose schools have one of the highest vaccine exemption rates in the state (almost 20% of the kids have vaccine exemptions), is now up to 48 confirmed cases of measles. All cases are among unvaxxed people or unknown status.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/14/health/measles-texas-outbreak/index.html

Quote:

The measles outbreak first reported in Gaines County, Texas, has doubled to 48 cases since a count released earlier this week, the Texas Department of State Health Services said Friday. The first two cases were identified in late January, and the numbers have been rising since.

Forty-two cases are reported in Gaines County. Surrounding counties have also reported cases, three in Terry County, two in Yoakum County and one in Lynn County. With the contagious nature of the disease, the state health department says it expects that more cases will be reported in Gaines County and the surrounding areas.

All of the cases are in unvaccinated people or those who have unknown vaccination status. Most cases are in children 5 to 17 years old. All experienced an onset of symptoms in the past three weeks.

I am torn on this. Parents can make choices for their children. But not choices that endanger the lives of their children.


According to Google, one can die of things get really complicated. If the children die, oh well, sucks to be them.
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No Spin Ag said:

If the children die, oh well, sucks to be them.
compassion
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A lot of us got the vaccine in school. I remember lining up and getting the sugar cube that way.
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Old Army Ghost said:

No Spin Ag said:

If the children die, oh well, sucks to be them.
compassion

Sarcasm.

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