Measles outbreak in West Texas

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CanyonAg77 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

TexasAggie73 said:

The antivaxers have been around a lot longer than Covid. It didn't help when a doctor sent out an article that vaccines caused autism. He was later proven wrong and his medical license was revoked.

He wasn't proven wrong.

He was proven to be a fraud and lost his medical license. I'd say that was pretty wrong.

https://www.livescience.com/35341-mmr-vaccine-linked-autism-study-was-elaborate-fraud.html

He dared take a position opposite big pharma and they fraudulently took away his license. That doesn't make him wrong, it just proves they're evil.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

CanyonAg77 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

TexasAggie73 said:

The antivaxers have been around a lot longer than Covid. It didn't help when a doctor sent out an article that vaccines caused autism. He was later proven wrong and his medical license was revoked.

He wasn't proven wrong.

He was proven to be a fraud and lost his medical license. I'd say that was pretty wrong.

https://www.livescience.com/35341-mmr-vaccine-linked-autism-study-was-elaborate-fraud.html

He dared take a position opposite big pharma and they fraudulently took away his license. That doesn't make him wrong, it just proves they're evil.
my favorite part is how you dont even pretend to have any facts to support your position
Old Army has gone to hell.
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IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
Vaccines do not prevent you from getting infected. They prompt the creation of antibodies that will fight the infection. Without the vaccine, it takes a period of time for the body to detect the threat and generate the antibodies. This provides the invading virus more time to multiply. The resulting damage and associated symptoms are significantly more severe.

Btw,

A coronavirus is more difficult to deal with due to its ability to evolve fairly rapidly.

One problem with vaccines is that you can sometimes get infected without showing symptoms. Therefore, you're more likely to spread it to others. There's just no good reason to take vaccines.
Then don't get vaccinated, I don't care.

Maybe you can earn a Darwin Award.

And you can practice
Voodoo and sacrifice chickens as long as it's not mandated.
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CanyonAg77 said:

There are Mennonite colonies in Mexico. One would expect a lot of interactions between the ones in Seminole and Mexico.

I would be at farm sales sometimes, and see a Mennonite family, looking like poster kids for the Aryan Nation. All blonde hair and blue eyes...

...speaking Spanish. It was a little weird.

Large, very successful Mennonite communities in different parts of Mex. Belize's food supply would prolly crater, and in serious fashion, if it weren't for the Mennonites.

In different parts of Mex the Mennonnites have and operate modern farming equipment and harvesters, they have taken on the role of traveling and providing that service. A couple of times I had blond haired, blue eyed, alpine looking women as sewing operators in Mexico in the 90's and early aughts. They were parts of families that had been kicked or left the Mennonite enclave for whatever reason. They never lasted long as the men always had them stepping and fetching for them.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
Vaccines do not prevent you from getting infected. They prompt the creation of antibodies that will fight the infection. Without the vaccine, it takes a period of time for the body to detect the threat and generate the antibodies. This provides the invading virus more time to multiply. The resulting damage and associated symptoms are significantly more severe.

Btw,

A coronavirus is more difficult to deal with due to its ability to evolve fairly rapidly.

One problem with vaccines is that you can sometimes get infected without showing symptoms. Therefore, you're more likely to spread it to others. There's just no good reason to take vaccines.
Then don't get vaccinated, I don't care.

Maybe you can earn a Darwin Award.

And you can practice
Voodoo and sacrifice chickens as long as it's not mandated.
So you are practicing voodoo and sacrificing chickens to protect yourself?

Good luck with that.
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Old Army Ghost said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

TexasAggie73 said:

The antivaxers have been around a lot longer than Covid. It didn't help when a doctor sent out an article that vaccines caused autism. He was later proven wrong and his medical license was revoked.

He wasn't proven wrong.
if the antivaxxers shout there lie loud enough and long enough the gullible will believe them

If the vaxxers spout their propaganda loud and long enough maybe people will start believing them again. People are waking up from the lies.
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IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
Vaccines do not prevent you from getting infected. They prompt the creation of antibodies that will fight the infection. Without the vaccine, it takes a period of time for the body to detect the threat and generate the antibodies. This provides the invading virus more time to multiply. The resulting damage and associated symptoms are significantly more severe.

Btw,

A coronavirus is more difficult to deal with due to its ability to evolve fairly rapidly.

One problem with vaccines is that you can sometimes get infected without showing symptoms. Therefore, you're more likely to spread it to others. There's just no good reason to take vaccines.
Then don't get vaccinated, I don't care.

Maybe you can earn a Darwin Award.

And you can practice
Voodoo and sacrifice chickens as long as it's not mandated.
So you are practicing voodoo and sacrificing chickens to protect yourself?

Good luck with that.

Lol, someone doesn't know where the term pharmaceuticals came from.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

CanyonAg77 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

TexasAggie73 said:

The antivaxers have been around a lot longer than Covid. It didn't help when a doctor sent out an article that vaccines caused autism. He was later proven wrong and his medical license was revoked.

He wasn't proven wrong.

He was proven to be a fraud and lost his medical license. I'd say that was pretty wrong.

https://www.livescience.com/35341-mmr-vaccine-linked-autism-study-was-elaborate-fraud.html

He dared take a position opposite big pharma and they fraudulently took away his license. That doesn't make him wrong, it just proves they're evil.

Big Pharma didn't make him commit fraud.
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I know some Mennonites that throw up some ag buildings cheaper, better, and faster than anyone.

And I know some that couldn't hold a 6-inch tolerance.

I know some who are devout in all aspects of their lives.

And I know some that launder money and run drugs.

Pretty wide range of what to expect.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

Old Army Ghost said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

TexasAggie73 said:

The antivaxers have been around a lot longer than Covid. It didn't help when a doctor sent out an article that vaccines caused autism. He was later proven wrong and his medical license was revoked.

He wasn't proven wrong.
if the antivaxxers shout there lie loud enough and long enough the gullible will believe them

If the vaxxers spout their propaganda loud and long enough maybe people will start believing them again. People are waking up from the lies.
SO you don't believe in vaccines, I take it?

There are plenty of good, useful vaccines that have been around for years. Most people went against the COVID vaccines because they were untested and rushed out into use too quickly. But MMR and others have been properly tested and used for decades.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
Vaccines do not prevent you from getting infected. They prompt the creation of antibodies that will fight the infection. Without the vaccine, it takes a period of time for the body to detect the threat and generate the antibodies. This provides the invading virus more time to multiply. The resulting damage and associated symptoms are significantly more severe.

Btw,

A coronavirus is more difficult to deal with due to its ability to evolve fairly rapidly.

One problem with vaccines is that you can sometimes get infected without showing symptoms. Therefore, you're more likely to spread it to others. There's just no good reason to take vaccines.
Then don't get vaccinated, I don't care.

Maybe you can earn a Darwin Award.

And you can practice
Voodoo and sacrifice chickens as long as it's not mandated.
So you are practicing voodoo and sacrificing chickens to protect yourself?

Good luck with that.

Lol, someone doesn't know where the term pharmaceuticals came from.
So you really are practicing voodoo and sacrificing chickens to protect yourself?
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Jobu knows!
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Most conservatives are quite ok with vaccines that have been thoroughly tested and proven. And that actually prevent infection and transmission.

The mRNA vax was none of those things.

No legit reason for not getting the MMR vax.
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91AggieLawyer said:

Jeeper79 said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
You can still get hurt with a seatbelt. Why wear it?

You can still drown if you learn how to swim. Why bother?

Neither a seatbelt nor learning to swim is going to POSSIBLY be detrimental to your health in other ways.

Not saying I buy in to ALL the anti- arguments, but this is a bad and irrelevant analogy.
Seatbelt injuries are absolutely a thing.
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CanyonAg77 said:

Captain Winky said:

Remember when idiotic liberals were the anti-vaxxers? Now idiotic conservatives are anti-vaxxers. Covid helped ******s from both sides of the aisle come together

Both extreme groups have always been anti-vax. Not sure you could place Mennonites as traditional conservative. They are more like Amish, suspicious of modern ways, modern being about 1914 and later.



Mennonites make some mean trailers!
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Logos Stick said:

Most conservatives are quite ok with vaccines that have been thoroughly tested and proven. And that actually prevent infection and transmission.

The mRNA vax was none of those things.

No legit reason for not getting the MMR vax.
Isn't another issue is that it is not really a "vaccine"?

One thing RFK needs to do is get back to rigid definitions.

Name the flu what it is (vax or no?)

Name the Polio vaccine what it is --- believe a definite `vax' in the normal sense? And so on.
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Their children…their choice…

If your child gets the measles vaxx, then it shouldn't bother you what others do, your kid will be fine…

Pretty simple…
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mRNAs have shown to have more therapeutic benefits than actual all-out prevention benefits…
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Logos Stick said:

Most conservatives are quite ok with vaccines that have been thoroughly tested and proven. And that actually prevent infection and transmission.

The mRNA vax was none of those things.

No legit reason for not getting the MMR vax.


No vaccine 100% prevents infection and transmission
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Teslag said:

Logos Stick said:

Most conservatives are quite ok with vaccines that have been thoroughly tested and proven. And that actually prevent infection and transmission.

The mRNA vax was none of those things.

No legit reason for not getting the MMR vax.


No vaccine 100% prevents infection and transmission
They do not prevent infection at all.
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I know that. They don't. I remember when they were shocked the Covid vax didn't prevent infection and I tried to tell them vaccines never did.

It was maddening.
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Teslag said:

I know that. They don't. I remember when they were shocked the Covid vax didn't prevent infection and I tried to tell them vaccines never did.

It was maddening.

Doh!

Sorry ...
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IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
Vaccines do not prevent you from getting infected. They prompt the creation of antibodies that will fight the infection. Without the vaccine, it takes a period of time for the body to detect the threat and generate the antibodies. This provides the invading virus more time to multiply. The resulting damage and associated symptoms are significantly more severe.

Btw,

A coronavirus is more difficult to deal with due to its ability to evolve fairly rapidly.

One problem with vaccines is that you can sometimes get infected without showing symptoms. Therefore, you're more likely to spread it to others. There's just no good reason to take vaccines.
Then don't get vaccinated, I don't care.

Maybe you can earn a Darwin Award.

And you can practice
Voodoo and sacrifice chickens as long as it's not mandated.
So you are practicing voodoo and sacrificing chickens to protect yourself?

Good luck with that.

Lol, someone doesn't know where the term pharmaceuticals came from.
So you really are practicing voodoo and sacrificing chickens to protect yourself?


Lol, read up on where the name pharmaceuticals came from and what the medical snake and staff mean and get back to me on that one.
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CanyonAg77 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

CanyonAg77 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

TexasAggie73 said:

The antivaxers have been around a lot longer than Covid. It didn't help when a doctor sent out an article that vaccines caused autism. He was later proven wrong and his medical license was revoked.

He wasn't proven wrong.

He was proven to be a fraud and lost his medical license. I'd say that was pretty wrong.

https://www.livescience.com/35341-mmr-vaccine-linked-autism-study-was-elaborate-fraud.html

He dared take a position opposite big pharma and they fraudulently took away his license. That doesn't make him wrong, it just proves they're evil.

Big Pharma didn't make him commit fraud.

He didn't commit fraud. The medical boards did, though.
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CanyonAg77 said:

Old Army Ghost said:

No Spin Ag said:

If the children die, oh well, sucks to be them.
compassion

Sarcasm.

Your meter is broken


Thanks for catching that.

I'll try and make it more obvious next time.
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The left is already running with this BS as the next pandemic to thwart Trump's agenda. They are totally desperate. Measles...schmeasles.

Keep going Trump and don't look back.

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

IIIHorn said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Fall Guy said:

Secolobo said:

Gosh, I wonder who brought that in?
They weren't vaccinating at the border like the libs told us they were doing for COVID…?


That's not where it came from. My brother had measels in 1989 at Austin College in Sherman TX and didn't come from an immigrant. Out breaks happen. Even to those vaccinated like he was.
You can get measles even if you had the vaccine?! What the hell is the point of the vaccine then?
Vaccines do not prevent you from getting infected. They prompt the creation of antibodies that will fight the infection. Without the vaccine, it takes a period of time for the body to detect the threat and generate the antibodies. This provides the invading virus more time to multiply. The resulting damage and associated symptoms are significantly more severe.

Btw,

A coronavirus is more difficult to deal with due to its ability to evolve fairly rapidly.

One problem with vaccines is that you can sometimes get infected without showing symptoms. Therefore, you're more likely to spread it to others. There's just no good reason to take vaccines.
Then don't get vaccinated, I don't care.

Maybe you can earn a Darwin Award.

And you can practice
Voodoo and sacrifice chickens as long as it's not mandated.
So you are practicing voodoo and sacrificing chickens to protect yourself?

Good luck with that.

Lol, someone doesn't know where the term pharmaceuticals came from.
So you really are practicing voodoo and sacrificing chickens to protect yourself?


Lol, read up on where the name pharmaceuticals came from and what the medical snake and staff mean and get back to me on that one.
So,

You do not take prescriptions at all?
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There are a lot of illegals in west Texas who have not had Mmr and were not tested at border
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IIIHorn said:

Teslag said:

Logos Stick said:

Most conservatives are quite ok with vaccines that have been thoroughly tested and proven. And that actually prevent infection and transmission.

The mRNA vax was none of those things.

No legit reason for not getting the MMR vax.


No vaccine 100% prevents infection and transmission
They do not prevent infection at all.


This is simply not true. Most of the proven vaccines are remarkably effective at preventing disease. When was the last time you saw wild polio, haemophalus, mumps, whopping cough, tetanus, strep pneumonia empyema or meningitis, neiserria meningitis?

All of these vaccines have made these illnesses, which were once very common, almost unheard of. You do realize that 48 cases of measles is an outbreak due to the remarkable efficacy of the vaccine. Not 48,000 cases.... 48!

Now the vaccines for flu and covid are a different story, they kind of suck.
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Idiots abound
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

CanyonAg77 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

CanyonAg77 said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

TexasAggie73 said:

The antivaxers have been around a lot longer than Covid. It didn't help when a doctor sent out an article that vaccines caused autism. He was later proven wrong and his medical license was revoked.

He wasn't proven wrong.

He was proven to be a fraud and lost his medical license. I'd say that was pretty wrong.

https://www.livescience.com/35341-mmr-vaccine-linked-autism-study-was-elaborate-fraud.html

He dared take a position opposite big pharma and they fraudulently took away his license. That doesn't make him wrong, it just proves they're evil.

Big Pharma didn't make him commit fraud.

He didn't commit fraud. The medical boards did, though.


He was paid by lawyers to generate specific data and got the samples from his kid's guest at a birthday party. Total fraud. fraudulent?

https://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452?utm_source=perplexity
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KidDoc said:

IIIHorn said:

Teslag said:

Logos Stick said:

Most conservatives are quite ok with vaccines that have been thoroughly tested and proven. And that actually prevent infection and transmission.

The mRNA vax was none of those things.

No legit reason for not getting the MMR vax.


No vaccine 100% prevents infection and transmission
They do not prevent infection at all.


This is simply not true. Most of the proven vaccines are remarkably effective at preventing disease. When was the last time you saw wild polio, haemophalus, mumps, whopping cough, tetanus, strep pneumonia empyema or meningitis, neiserria meningitis?

All of these vaccines have made these illnesses, which were once very common, almost unheard of. You do realize that 48 cases of measles is an outbreak due to the remarkable efficacy of the vaccine. Not 48,000 cases.... 48!

Now the vaccines for flu and covid are a different story, they kind of suck.
Sorry, Doc

I agree with you and was not implying that vaccines don't prevent disease.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

what the medical snake and staff mean and get back to me on that one.


And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

Numbers 21:9
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Ann2321 said:

There are a lot of illegals in west Texas who have not had Mmr and were not tested at border

1) Agree
2) Moot point. It came from Mennonite population
 
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