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I can't speak for every clinic in America, but at my wife's clinic (Family Medicine), they lose money on their vaccines. Keep in mind that clinics have to buy the vaccines before they give them to you. The reimbursement rate from insurances, Medicaid and Medicare is not what you think it is. The clinic frequently pays more for their vaccine stock than they recoup.
Clinics are not getting rich off these things or kickbacks like some on this thread propose. They're happy just to break even honestly.

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So they're in business to lose money... All for the public good I am sure.

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Where does the post say that the clinic is in the business of losing money?

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"they lose money on their vaccines"

I think the whole post pretty much says it except the last sentence that reads "They are happy just to break even.."

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It is a Family Clinic. Not a vaccine clinic. Administering vaccines is not their primary service and would have a negligible impact on revenue.

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I understand that but losing money and very small slice of their business are two different things.

If it loses money, jsut give it up to Walgreens and CVS. Doctors offices are already struggling so much to turn a profit how do they have room for negative contributions? That's what I hear anyways.

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The post did not say that the clinic is in the business to lose money.

You did.

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I have my annual doctor's appointment in the morning for a blood test to have my thyroid hormones measured.

Since I'm not sick, this would be a good time for vaccinations. Any suggestions as to what vaccinations I should ask for?

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Likely none unless over 50 and haven't had a tetanus in 10 years.

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I had a tetanus booser about eight or nine years ago.

I've asked for a shingles vaccination, but they don't seem to keep the vaccine on hand.

I don't know if I have ever had a measles vaccination. If I did, it would have been around 1972 or so. How long is the measles vaccination good for?

I've had the two pneumonia vaccines. It was a little ahead of schedule but they went ahead since I asked for them.

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For most people measles immunity is lifelong. USA started in 1963 so you are likely immune. I find it easier to just get the vaccines at pharmacies they always have them in stock and you usually get a free cash coupon.

I got mine back in 73 or so and when tested for residency in 1999 was still immune.

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Thanks.

My younger brother had it in 1966 or so. If I did get a vaccination, that would have been the most likely time.

This is what I found at the CDC earlier today:

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If you do not have presumptive evidence of immunity against measles, mumps, and rubella, talk with your doctor about getting vaccinated. If you're unsure whether you've been vaccinated, you should first try to find your vaccination records. If you do not have written documentation of MMR vaccine, you should get vaccinated. The MMR vaccine is safe, and there is no harm in getting another dose if you may already be immune to measles, mumps, or rubella.

If you received a measles vaccine in the 1960s, you may not need to be revaccinated. People who have documentation of receiving LIVE measles vaccine in the 1960s do not need to be revaccinated. People who were vaccinated prior to 1968 with either inactivated (killed) measles vaccine or measles vaccine of unknown type should be revaccinated with at least one dose of live attenuated measles vaccine. This recommendation is intended to protect those who may have received killed measles vaccine, which was available in 1963-1967 and was not effective.

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My younger brother had measles in the mid 1960s. If I was vaccinated, that would most likely have been the killed measles vaccine mentioned in their statement.

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eric76 said:

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I have my annual doctor's appointment in the morning for a blood test to have my thyroid hormones measured.

Since I'm not sick, this would be a good time for vaccinations. Any suggestions as to what vaccinations I should ask for?

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Likely none unless over 50 and haven't had a tetanus in 10 years.

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I had a tetanus booser about eight or nine years ago.

I've asked for a shingles vaccination, but they don't seem to keep the vaccine on hand.

I don't know if I have ever had a measles vaccination. If I did, it would have been around 1972 or so. How long is the measles vaccination good for?

I've had the two pneumonia vaccines. It was a little ahead of schedule but they went ahead since I asked for them.

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For most people measles immunity is lifelong. USA started in 1963 so you are likely immune. I find it easier to just get the vaccines at pharmacies they always have them in stock and you usually get a free cash coupon.

I got mine back in 73 or so and when tested for residency in 1999 was still immune.

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Thanks.

My younger brother had it in 1966 or so. If I did get a vaccination, that would have been the most likely time.

This is what I found at the CDC earlier today:

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If you do not have presumptive evidence of immunity against measles, mumps, and rubella, talk with your doctor about getting vaccinated. If you're unsure whether you've been vaccinated, you should first try to find your vaccination records. If you do not have written documentation of MMR vaccine, you should get vaccinated. The MMR vaccine is safe, and there is no harm in getting another dose if you may already be immune to measles, mumps, or rubella.

If you received a measles vaccine in the 1960s, you may not need to be revaccinated. People who have documentation of receiving LIVE measles vaccine in the 1960s do not need to be revaccinated. People who were vaccinated prior to 1968 with either inactivated (killed) measles vaccine or measles vaccine of unknown type should be revaccinated with at least one dose of live attenuated measles vaccine. This recommendation is intended to protect those who may have received killed measles vaccine, which was available in 1963-1967 and was not effective.

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My younger brother had measles in the mid 1960s. If I was vaccinated, that would most likely have been the killed measles vaccine mentioned in their statement.

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Good info there! Looks like the killed vaccine didn't work as we have been using the live one for as long as I've been in medicine. Your doc can draw Measles IgG to check for immunity as well.

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I can't speak for every clinic in America, but at my wife's clinic (Family Medicine), they lose money on their vaccines. Keep in mind that clinics have to buy the vaccines before they give them to you. The reimbursement rate from insurances, Medicaid and Medicare is not what you think it is. The clinic frequently pays more for their vaccine stock than they recoup.
Clinics are not getting rich off these things or kickbacks like some on this thread propose. They're happy just to break even honestly.

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So they're in business to lose money... All for the public good I am sure.

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Where does the post say that the clinic is in the business of losing money?

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"they lose money on their vaccines"

I think the whole post pretty much says it except the last sentence that reads "They are happy just to break even and get you in there to buy other stuff."

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fify

Thank you to the posters who regularly remind those of sound mind that biology classes were significantly less rigorous thirty years ago.

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OP, I wish you would have requested the discussion exclude COVID-19.

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I understand that sentiment, but it's tough not to. The covid vaccine is what changed many of our minds and had us start looking into the rest of them.

Before the mRNA vaccine, I was very much in the camp of "those antivaxxers can just live by themselves"

Everything changed for me with Covid.

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And now we have record breaking numbers of measles and whopping cough, thanks Fauci!

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They'll be ok. Maybe a little more durable on the other side of it.

As I've mentioned before on this thread. My kids have most vaccines. I can't remember the ones that we skipped. My wife is way more clued in on the details. Mostly we elected an elongated schedule rather than pumping them full of everything in a short period of time.

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Our pediatrician office told us that they wouldn't even see my daughter for her timely checkups unless she followed the vaccine schedule. We were going to deny a few vaccines, and this is what they told us.

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That's because they lose a ton of bonus money from insurance companies if they have low vaccination rates.

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Or, the doctor is providing what he believes to be sound medical advice.

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I may have believed before COVID that many doctors were just misinformed. Sadly, the profession is so corrupt now that just a small percentage can be trusted.

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I can't emphasize enough how false this is. The vast majority of physicians are just trying to do the right thing.

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OP, I wish you would have requested the discussion exclude COVID-19.

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I understand that sentiment, but it's tough not to. The covid vaccine is what changed many of our minds and had us start looking into the rest of them.

Before the mRNA vaccine, I was very much in the camp of "those antivaxxers can just live by themselves"

Everything changed for me with Covid.

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And now we have record breaking numbers of measles and whopping cough, thanks Fauci!

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They'll be ok. Maybe a little more durable on the other side of it.

As I've mentioned before on this thread. My kids have most vaccines. I can't remember the ones that we skipped. My wife is way more clued in on the details. Mostly we elected an elongated schedule rather than pumping them full of everything in a short period of time.

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Our pediatrician office told us that they wouldn't even see my daughter for her timely checkups unless she followed the vaccine schedule. We were going to deny a few vaccines, and this is what they told us.

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That's because they lose a ton of bonus money from insurance companies if they have low vaccination rates.

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Or, the doctor is providing what he believes to be sound medical advice.

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I may have believed before COVID that many doctors were just misinformed. Sadly, the profession is so corrupt now that just a small percentage can be trusted.

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I can't emphasize enough how false this is. The vast majority of physicians are just trying to do the right thing.

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Especially those that actually see patients and aren't sitting in some ivory tower dictating how everyone should practice with little evidence.

Seems like we had a mumps outbreak when I was at A&M. Would have been 1989 or 1990. I remember getting an MMR vaccine at that time. I thought that I had gotten one as a child, but got a refresher anyway.

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Seems like we had a mumps outbreak when I was at A&M. Would have been 1989 or 1990. I remember getting an MMR vaccine at that time. I thought that I had gotten one as a child, but got a refresher anyway.

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Same. I think it was described previously in the thread where people vaccinated in the mid to late 60s got a killed vaccine instead of a live vaccine and the immunity was not durable. I was born in 70 and didn't have to get revaccinated.

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OP, I wish you would have requested the discussion exclude COVID-19.

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I understand that sentiment, but it's tough not to. The covid vaccine is what changed many of our minds and had us start looking into the rest of them.

Before the mRNA vaccine, I was very much in the camp of "those antivaxxers can just live by themselves"

Everything changed for me with Covid.

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And now we have record breaking numbers of measles and whopping cough, thanks Fauci!

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They'll be ok. Maybe a little more durable on the other side of it.

As I've mentioned before on this thread. My kids have most vaccines. I can't remember the ones that we skipped. My wife is way more clued in on the details. Mostly we elected an elongated schedule rather than pumping them full of everything in a short period of time.

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Our pediatrician office told us that they wouldn't even see my daughter for her timely checkups unless she followed the vaccine schedule. We were going to deny a few vaccines, and this is what they told us.

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That's because they lose a ton of bonus money from insurance companies if they have low vaccination rates.

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Or, the doctor is providing what he believes to be sound medical advice.

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I may have believed before COVID that many doctors were just misinformed. Sadly, the profession is so corrupt now that just a small percentage can be trusted.

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I can't emphasize enough how false this is. The vast majority of physicians are just trying to do the right thing.

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It's not obvious by their actions. The COVID debacle illustrates that perfectly.

The amount of vaccines have skyrocketed since the Reagan administration.

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The amount of vaccines have skyrocketed since the Reagan administration.

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Medical science improved in 37 years? No way!

Do you really believe the vaccines currently given are all necessary?

I think it's probably too many at this point.

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Do you really believe the vaccines currently given are all necessary?

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No. Covid and flu are pointless.

It was such a long time ago I'm having trouble remembering, but I think I was on the cusp of that transition (I was born in 1969). Seems like I wasn't sure which one I had gotten, and neither were my parents. So I got a new one. Also seems like the potential threat from mumps was that it could make you sterile. At least, that's what I remember being my motivating factor for getting the MMR booster.

I can't believe a branch covidian showed up and 12 people starred it.

Why do you get to decide who participates in society? Were you a Covid nazi too?

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To you anti vaxxers

Do not get the shingles vaccine. Just get shingles some day and suffer. Much safer and more effective than the vaccine.

It won't kill you - you'll just wish you were dead.

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You do you. I wish some of you cared as much about all the lol
Fat tubs of goo as you do this.

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Thank you to the posters who regularly remind those of sound mind that biology classes were significantly less rigorous thirty years ago.

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You still sure covid came from a market?

Also your quote is a complete lie. I realize jealousy does that