Ellis Wyatt said:Are they ongoing? Were they physically assaulting Jewish students?The Fall Guy said:
Now do UT and their protests
student visaaggiehawg said:
I'm confused. Was this guy here illegally at first but then got a green card? Or is he on a student visa?
His actual status is very crucial here. Green card confers permanent status but if that GC was procured by fraud, it can be revoked as I understand it. And he can be deported just on that basis alone. Has nothing to do with his first amendment rights.LMCane said:student visaaggiehawg said:
I'm confused. Was this guy here illegally at first but then got a green card? Or is he on a student visa?
then applied for Green Card in UNDER A YEAR
likely had a buddy in the Biden DHS help him out who was also part of the Hamas Resistance.
That first sentence should be dealt with as Saudi Arabia style would do saying it about their charge.LMCane said:
what a lovely guy Khalil that the Senate Democrats are now defending.
And David Hogg vice chair of the DNC.
we need to hang this around the neck of every democrat politician in 2026 along with every other 80/20 issue that the GOP has been on the side of!
If he is in fact a GC holder by virtue of being married to a US citizen (unless fraudulently obtained) the student visa question becomes irrelevant.Ellis Wyatt said:
And the guy is not a current student.
Oh, I know. I just believe it was all just a means to get him here so he could agitate. Student visa, then green card by virtue of his connections.aggiehawg said:If he is in fact a GC holder by virtue of being married to a US citizen (unless fraudulently obtained) the student visa question becomes irrelevant.Ellis Wyatt said:
And the guy is not a current student.
The Saudis don't allow for Green Cards so that's a fine distinction here.titan said:That first sentence should be dealt with as Saudi Arabia style would do saying it about their charge.LMCane said:
what a lovely guy Khalil that the Senate Democrats are now defending.
And David Hogg vice chair of the DNC.
we need to hang this around the neck of every democrat politician in 2026 along with every other 80/20 issue that the GOP has been on the side of!
It has been speculated about -- and I agree -- that this was done to deprive SDNY of venue over a habeas corpus petition as those are supposed to be filed in the federal district court where the person is being held.
— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) March 10, 2025
So good luck with the judges in Louisiana. https://t.co/bCfYGlGu2M
He ****ed Around. He's going to Find Out.nortex97 said:
Nothing about 'free speech' however is part of his case. His visa status changed and he has to go back.
Not doubting you but the reporting on this has been vague and all over the place. Do you have a link for this? TIA.Quote:
His visa status changed and he has to go back.
Of course. They are trying to make you think Trump is attacking constitutional rights.Quote:
the reporting on this has been vague and all over the place
I don't have a link to his student visa no, but it is pretty widely reported as revoked and pending a change for his (visa dependent) green card. I realize his attorney claims he's a legal permanent resident with a green card as such, but that as well could be revoked for supporting terrorism pending a court hearing.aggiehawg said:Not doubting you but the reporting on this has been vague and all over the place. Do you have a link for this? TIA.Quote:
His visa status changed and he has to go back.
BREAKING: Mahmoud Khalil will face a Louisiana judge for possible green card revocation and deportation over support for a foreign terrorist organization.
— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) March 10, 2025
As expected, pro-Palestinian activists falsely claim his rights are being violated, but the process is fully legal. pic.twitter.com/GzhdESN5iM
jacketman03 said:
Can anybody explain to me what activities the federal government is alleging that give the Secretary of State "reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences" and would justify revocation of his green card and removal? Because all I'm seeing is that he engaged in protected speech (he's been charged with no crimes so far as I can tell), and, well, a legal permanent resident cannot be deported for protected speech.
I've seen two threads with dozens of posts showing that he was engaged in protected speech. I'm asking what he's done other than that to give rise to deportation.LMCane said:jacketman03 said:
Can anybody explain to me what activities the federal government is alleging that give the Secretary of State "reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences" and would justify revocation of his green card and removal? Because all I'm seeing is that he engaged in protected speech (he's been charged with no crimes so far as I can tell), and, well, a legal permanent resident cannot be deported for protected speech.
there are LITERALLY two threads on this board with dozens of posts showing exactly what Muhammed Khalil was doing.
it was not "speech"
try reading them before showing everyone your ignorance.
Not just Jewish students but all members of Western Civilization. Being in America is a privilege for Non Americans. And there are very many exceptions to first amendment rights that specifically allow for deportation even for green card holders. Burden is on government to show why a deportation is warranted in a civil showing by clear and convincing evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt.MagnumLoad said:
Fomenting violence against jewish students and interfering with their right to the education they are paying for.
jacketman03 said:I've seen two threads with dozens of posts showing that he was engaged in protected speech. I'm asking what he's done other than that to give rise to deportation.LMCane said:jacketman03 said:
Can anybody explain to me what activities the federal government is alleging that give the Secretary of State "reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences" and would justify revocation of his green card and removal? Because all I'm seeing is that he engaged in protected speech (he's been charged with no crimes so far as I can tell), and, well, a legal permanent resident cannot be deported for protected speech.
there are LITERALLY two threads on this board with dozens of posts showing exactly what Muhammed Khalil was doing.
it was not "speech"
try reading them before showing everyone your ignorance.
You may be cool with licking the boots of those who would destroy the Constitution, but I am not.
Thank you for the statutory basis that I would assume the government is using. But, the statute helpfully defines what it means to be be a representative of a terrorist organization, and that bit reads As used in this paragraph, the term "representative" includes an officer, official, or spokesman of an organization, and any person who directs, counsels, commands, or induces an organization or its members to engage in terrorist activity.aggiehawg said:Not just Jewish students but all members of Western Civilization. Being in America is a privilege for Non Americans. And there are very many exceptions to first amendment rights that specifically allow for deportation even for green card holders. Burden is on government to show why a deportation is warranted in a civil showing by clear and convincing evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt.MagnumLoad said:
Fomenting violence against jewish students and interfering with their right to the education they are paying for.
8 USC 1182. National Security grounds for terrorist activity. That goes to whether he should have ever been allowed in at all.
And then a following statute, incorporates the above for deportation. So it is his self avowed admission that he is a leader and member of a an organization that advocates for terrorist acts. So for those acts it is not a first amendment issue.
Thankfully, what you see is pretty irrelevant.Quote:
So, yes, if he were a representative of a terrorist organization, he would be subject to removal. But I'm not seeing how what he did meets those definitions.
Yes, I agree that the actions at Columbia were over the line, but they weren't terrorism according to the statutes that the government is trying to use to deport him.Ellis Wyatt said:Thankfully, what you see is pretty irrelevant.Quote:
So, yes, if he were a representative of a terrorist organization, he would be subject to removal. But I'm not seeing how what he did meets those definitions.
The stuff they were doing at Columbia was over the line, and he bought himself a ticket home. We don't need to import trash.
As I stated before the accurate reporting on this guy has been sketchy so I was reserving judgment until I could sort out what was really going on with this guy in particular. As more and more of his history is coming out, his commitment to terrorism and advocacy of violence pursuant to that, put him within those exceptions. So his green card can be revoked and deportation occur under those statutes.MagnumLoad said:
Thank you hawg.
How in the hell does someone with that profile get a GC so quickly? Minimal 5 years is what I've been told. I know I waited close to 5 years to get mine, and that was back in the 70's.Quote:
He also was granted a GC abnormally fast, less than two years in fact.
Which makes practically most overseas more worthy of being here than he.aggiehawg said:Not just Jewish students but all members of Western Civilization. Being in America is a privilege for Non Americans. And there are very many exceptions to first amendment rights that specifically allow for deportation even for green card holders. Burden is on government to show why a deportation is warranted in a civil showing by clear and convincing evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt.MagnumLoad said:
Fomenting violence against jewish students and interfering with their right to the education they are paying for.
8 USC 1182. National Security grounds for terrorist activity. That goes to whether he should have ever been allowed in at all.
And then a following statute, incorporates the above for deportation. So it is his self avowed admission that he is a leader and member of a an organization that advocates for terrorist acts. So for those acts it is not a first amendment issue.
No idea why the Biden State Department let him in even on a student visa.akm91 said:How in the hell does someone with that profile get a GC so quickly? Minimal 5 years is what I've been told. I know I waited close to 5 years to get mine, and that was back in the 70's.Quote:
He also was granted a GC abnormally fast, less than two years in fact.
His affiliation with Hamas is quite enough, I'd wager.Quote:
Grounds for deportation can range from being convicted of a range of crimes, from murder, assault and burglary to tax evasion, domestic violence and illegal firearms possession, according to Stephen Yale-Loehr, an immigration law expert and retired Cornell Law School professor.
But a legal permanent resident can also be expelled for providing material support to a terrorist group, in which case the government doesn't need a criminal conviction to bring deportation charges, he said.
"Material support for immigration purposes is much broader than the criminal definition of the term," Yale-Loehr explained. "For example, people have been deported for simply providing a cup of water or bowl of rice to guerrilla groups, even under duress."
