Shalom Mahmoud Khalil and Shalom Columbia University

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In reply to BonfireNerd04 • 11:50p, 3/12/25
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Squarely southeast, but maybe you neglected East Palestine, which Biden neglected a horrendous attack on those E Palestinians.
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6:33a, 3/13/25
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Gov't response to the Hamas HC petition.

How about no. He was transferred to NJ before it was even filed, then to LA. It was never filed in NJ.
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6:54a, 3/13/25
Hope he's bobbing in the Atlantic 100 miles off the coast of Cuba by now.
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9:38a, 3/13/25
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Jurisdiction did not attach for a habeas filing (which is specific to the actual custodian holding a person) at the time of the filing. Change of venue required to the current actual custodian, which is Louisiana.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 9:41a, 3/13/25
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The claim is more-so that the government misconduct in the transfer gives rise to additional claims and that the court demand he be transferred back.

That's…not going to happen. His 14+ attorney 'legal dream team' is in pure fantasy-land thinking it could. I predict they file a fresh motion in Louisiana shortly.
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In reply to nortex97 • 9:50a, 3/13/25
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nortex97 said:
The claim is more-so that the government misconduct in the transfer gives rise to additional claims and that the court demand he be transferred back.

That's…not going to happen. His 14+ attorney 'legal dream team' is in pure fantasy-land thinking it could. I predict they file a fresh motion in Louisiana shortly.
Con Air is a real thing. Anyone in federal custody can and usually will be transferred from state to state, and often.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 9:53a, 3/13/25
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aggiehawg said:
nortex97 said:
The claim is more-so that the government misconduct in the transfer gives rise to additional claims and that the court demand he be transferred back.

That's…not going to happen. His 14+ attorney 'legal dream team' is in pure fantasy-land thinking it could. I predict they file a fresh motion in Louisiana shortly.
Con Air is a real thing. Anyone in federal custody can and usually will be transferred from state to state, and often.


I had a vague recollection is was based in OKC. Seems to still be the case.

US Marshalls JPATS.

https://www.usmarshals.gov/what-we-do/prisoners/transportation
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11:49a, 3/13/25
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:50a, 3/13/25
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This is about to get interesting nationwide.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:54a, 3/13/25
Well looks like we got a handy list of people to cross check their bank accounts for USAID and NGO funding
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In reply to texagbeliever • 11:55a, 3/13/25
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texagbeliever said:
Well looks like we got a handy list of people to cross check their bank accounts for USAID and NGO funding
Indeed.
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In reply to Hoyt Ag • 11:59a, 3/13/25
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This is about to get interesting nationwide.
Only in Liberal hell holes, rest of the nation does not care
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12:16p, 3/13/25
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Well, this different. Who is paying for all of these lawyers?
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Detained activist Mahmoud Khalil filed a lawsuit Thursday against Columbia University and the House Committee on Education and the Workforce to stop the school from giving student disciplinary records to lawmakers.
Khalil, a former Columbia student who was arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after playing a leading role in pro-Palestinian demonstrations, is suing alongside other students after the House committee sent a letter on Feb. 13 demanding student disciplinary records from certain incidents on campus, saying the school would risk loss of federal funding if it failed to comply.

The suit is seeking declaratory and injunctive relief to stop the transfer of any more records until a decision is reached by the court.
"The Committee's Letter is clearly intended to chill the protected speech of University's students," the lawsuit reads.
LINK
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12:16p, 3/13/25
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Mahmoud Khalil is still in jail. FAFO.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 12:17p, 3/13/25
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When I went in Trump Tower in 2020 (right before covid hit), there was Secret Service that you had to get past to get in as well as several officers outside with AR type weapons.

How'd these idiots get in there?

BTW, this looks like an insurrection since Trump actually has a residence there...
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In reply to Ag with kids • 12:21p, 3/13/25
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Criminal trespass charges against every one of them, PLUS civil litigation claims by the hotel & the paying guests for damages sustained by their stunt.
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12:26p, 3/13/25
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This is not a free speech issue.
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In reply to Ag with kids • 12:44p, 3/13/25
Ag with kids said:
aggiehawg said:
When I went in Trump Tower in 2020 (right before covid hit), there was Secret Service that you had to get past to get in as well as several officers outside with AR type weapons.

How'd these idiots get in there?

BTW, this looks like an insurrection since Trump actually has a residence there...


I think the thought was Art of War: do not impede your opponent while he is making a mistake.
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In reply to Ag in Tiger Country • 12:48p, 3/13/25
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Ag in Tiger Country said:
Criminal trespass charges against every one of them, PLUS civil litigation claims by the hotel & the paying guests for damages sustained by their stunt.


That area is "open to the public". We went several times over Thanksgiving (so after election) and there were NYPD offices at the entrances, but they were more profiling and keeping you from bringing in suspicious packages and such.

Deputy Mayor said that these agitators arrived separately with coats concealing their red protest shirts. They then assembled and were asked to leave same as if you were asked to leave a store or restaurant or shopping mall.

The other areas of Trump Tower are off limits.
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In reply to texagbeliever • 12:57p, 3/13/25
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texagbeliever said:
Ag with kids said:
aggiehawg said:
When I went in Trump Tower in 2020 (right before covid hit), there was Secret Service that you had to get past to get in as well as several officers outside with AR type weapons.

How'd these idiots get in there?

BTW, this looks like an insurrection since Trump actually has a residence there...


I think the thought was Art of War: do not impede your opponent while he is making a mistake.
FWIW, that's Napoleon...
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In reply to Ag with kids • 1:12p, 3/13/25
Oops mixed that up badly.
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In reply to will25u • 2:43p, 3/13/25
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DHS secretary Noem should do that too, just for good measure.

Aside, shouldn't good ol' Mahmoud want to go to Syria now that it is run by 'the good guys' of HTS?
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In reply to will25u • 2:52p, 3/13/25
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will25u said:

That's interesting. Add it to the long list of recent rulings that help the Trump Administration. You don't hear much about that angle from the lame-stream media.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 8:56p, 3/13/25
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Deport all non-citizens involved asap.
FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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9:15p, 3/13/25
Gas them. Drag them into the streets. Leave them to die
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4:36a, 3/14/25
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Looks like he flew out of JFK to Alexandria, Louisiana. I don't think that's a big deal, but it's sort of comical how desperate the Hamas legal team is to have this all get heard in the SDNY.

Long article, fyi. Fair use excerpt;
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But that appeal goes to the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) -- not to a federal district court. Such appeals are almost always determined on the written submissions. Assuming the BIA rejects his appeal, he can then appeal that decision to a federal Circuit Court of Appeals -- in his case it will likely be to the 5th Circuit.

If the Circuit Court rejects his appeal that is usually it.

BUT, once the Order of Deportation is affirmed through the Circuit Court, the defendant can then lodge constitutional challenges to the Order of Deportation via a petition for writ of habeas corpus in the federal district court where he is being held.

In my opinion, THAT is where the Khalil case will really become a seriously contested issue. I expect that all the proceedings up to that point will be rather ordinary and uneventful. He's going to be ordered to be deported, and he will lose his appeals as to that order.

Bbut his attorneys will mount a vigorous defense to the constitutionality of the provision being employed by the Trump Administration to deport him -- the authority given to the Secretary of State to determine that Khalil's continued presence in the US would be detrimental to the foreign policy of the US. Such a challenge on constitutional grounds comes after the immigration proceedings are concluded and result in a final Order of Deportation.

So, in order, here are a list of things I expect to happen over the new few months with predicted outcomes:

[ol]
  • SDNY Judge rules he lacks jurisdiction and all proceedings on pending habeas petition must happen in Louisiana.
  • Louisiana judge will deny him bail, and he will remain in detention pending the outcome of all deportation proceedings.
  • Order of Deportation will be entered by Immigration Judge.
  • BIA will deny his appeal of Order of Deportation.
  • Fifth Circuit Court of Appeal will deny appeal of BIA decision.
  • A new petition for writ of habeas corpus will be filed challenging constitutionality of INA provision giving Secretary of State discretion to declare that an alien's continued presence in the US is contrary to US foreign policy.
    • [/ol]The Trump Administration is likely to follow on with deportations of protesters who are holders only of Student Visas, and allow Khalil's case to be the only "test" case on the use of the Secretary of State's authority to deport a permanent resident alien.

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    8:51a, 3/14/25
    Trump 2.0 is using a lot more forethought and reflecting on what worked and didn't work before.



    Everyone knows lawfare judge shops to get the best chance of getting a liberal sympathetic judge. Well now Trump is doing the same, at least with deportation matters.

    Set up a deportation center in LA as the judges are appointed by Republican presidents.

    Art III judges:
    Republican 5
    Democrat 1

    Senior Judges
    Republican 3
    Democrat 3

    5th Circuit:
    Rep 12
    Dem 5

    Senior Judges
    Rep 7
    Dem 3

    By Contrast SDNY:
    Art III judges:
    Democrat 20
    Republican 7

    Senior Judges
    Democrat 13
    Republican 8

    2nd Circuit:
    Dem 7
    Rep 6

    Senior Judges
    Dem 10
    Rep 5

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    9:02a, 3/14/25
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    9:06a, 3/14/25
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    As a temporary visitor to our Country who supported known terrorists publicly and harassed Jewish students trying to attend class, I rule that he lacks standing to challenge our laws.

    If Trump is serious, deport him and he can challenge the rulings from his favorite Internet cafe in Syria.
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    In reply to flown-the-coop • 9:23a, 3/14/25
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    flown-the-coop said:
    As a temporary visitor to our Country who supported known terrorists publicly and harassed Jewish students trying to attend class, I rule that he lacks standing to challenge our laws.

    If Trump is serious, deport him and he can challenge the rulings from his favorite Internet cafe in Syria.
    This.
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    In reply to will25u • 10:53a, 3/14/25
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    will25u said:
    Trump 2.0 is using a lot more forethought and reflecting on what worked and didn't work before.



    Everyone knows lawfare judge shops to get the best chance of getting a liberal sympathetic judge. Well now Trump is doing the same, at least with deportation matters.

    Set up a deportation center in LA as the judges are appointed by Republican presidents.

    Art III judges:
    Republican 5
    Democrat 1

    Senior Judges
    Republican 3
    Democrat 3

    5th Circuit:
    Rep 12
    Dem 5

    Senior Judges
    Rep 7
    Dem 3

    By Contrast SDNY:
    Art III judges:
    Democrat 20
    Republican 7

    Senior Judges
    Democrat 13
    Republican 8

    2nd Circuit:
    Dem 7
    Rep 6

    Senior Judges
    Dem 10
    Rep 5


    Brilliant.
    The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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    11:36a, 3/14/25
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    I read the government's motion to dismiss and the amended petition, and I'm a bit confused by something. Khalil's attorneys are saying the petition was filed in SDNY because the ICE locator had him listed as being in New York. The petition claims that at 10pm on Saturday night, he wasn't in the locator, but then at 1:35am, 4:29am, and 8:30am on Sunday, he was listed as in New York, and it was updated sometime after 9am to show him in New Jersey. The government's motion says that the ICE website hadn't been updated with accurate information at 4am on a weekend morning, but he had been moved to New Jersey prior to then.

    Now, what's confusing to me is that DHS was able to update the locator sometime between 10pm and 1:35am, but then they weren't able to update it from 2:20am/3:30am (the time the government says he was booked into the New Jersey facility) until after 9am. So, are they able to update the ICE locator overnight on a weekend or not? It just seems odd that they were able to update it at one point, but then not at another point.

    Also, if he was at the New Jersey facility until 11:30am on Sunday, why was his wife told that he wasn't in the system there at 11:20am, but at that same time the ICE locator said he was there.

    The story the government is telling seems to be a bit irregular to me, but that's something that should be easily cleared up at a hearing.
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    In reply to jacketman03 • 11:46a, 3/14/25
    He's a terrorist and insurrectionist who WAS a guest of the country.

    **** him.
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