Episcopal Church says it won't help resettle white South Africans

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Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to match this....



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i always find it funny when someone is acting immoral and thenthey claim moral opposition.

very liberal of them.
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I don't really know the differences between various Episcopal/Anglican churches; can anyone shed light on this?

[url=https://www.episcopalchurch.org/publicaffairs/letter-from-presiding-bishop-sean-rowe-on-episcopal-migration-ministries/][/url]
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In a letter sent to members of the church, the Most Rev. Sean W. Rowe the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church said that two weeks ago the government "informed Episcopal Migration Ministries that under the terms of our federal grant, we are expected to resettle white Afrikaners from South Africa whom the U.S. government has classified as refugees."

The request, Rowe said, crossed a moral line for the Episcopal Church, which is part of the global Anglican Communion that boasts among its leaders the late Archbishop Desmond Tutu, a celebrated and vocal opponent of apartheid in South Africa.
And what I mean by that, I guess, is this THE Episcopal Church, or is it this particular NGO that doesn't want to work with the Trump admin?
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And lets see how they fair when that "grant" goes away.
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The Episcopal Church is huge in Africa but it's more evangelical and has a better moral compass than the woke Episcopals in America. Can DOGE look into that grant? I'd like to save more money and strip the wokesters of that boondoggle money that is obviously put to poor use.

Jesus purportedly loved white folks too.
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Let's moral grandstand against folks whose racism comes from a context of blacks killing your fellow whites due to their skin color. That makes us good people!
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Jugstore Cowboy said:

I don't really know the differences between various Episcopal/Anglican churches; can anyone shed light on this?

[url=https://www.episcopalchurch.org/publicaffairs/letter-from-presiding-bishop-sean-rowe-on-episcopal-migration-ministries/][/url]
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In a letter sent to members of the church, the Most Rev. Sean W. Rowe the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church said that two weeks ago the government "informed Episcopal Migration Ministries that under the terms of our federal grant, we are expected to resettle white Afrikaners from South Africa whom the U.S. government has classified as refugees."

The request, Rowe said, crossed a moral line for the Episcopal Church, which is part of the global Anglican Communion that boasts among its leaders the late Archbishop Desmond Tutu, a celebrated and vocal opponent of apartheid in South Africa.
And what I mean by that, I guess, is this THE Episcopal Church, or is it this particular NGO that doesn't want to work with the Trump admin?


The Episcopal Church (TEC) is the mainline that began ordaining women and gays last century, expecting everyone else to eventually do it too. There are other Anglican churches and organizations that are part of ACNA that are different.
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My parents are angry enough to leave. My father is in the vestry and was working with the new bishop. But anything from Texas falls on deaf ears. Within a few decades the Episcopal church in the US will be a real estate trust and not a denomination. And it will be deserved. I loved the little Church behind the Corps. But they lost their minds and drove people like me away.
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The mask has really come off with these 50 white South African refugees.



It is and always has been about replacing whites in the West. The moment it was all extended to white refugees was the moment these so-called charity organizations said no more.

We always knew the truth and I'm glad they have finally admitted it.
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The Episcopal Church sold out to apostasy a long, long time ago.
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So the Episcopalian church will not help white refugees? Got it. I'd guess you could say they've lost their way.
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They're still trying to assert it is due to an apartheid that was rolled back and ended in the 1980's and 1990's? Are people really this willfully ignorant?
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Stone Choir said:




This is why I hate meme politics. The left is just false. Every survey you can find shows us that Hispanics identity as white by the third generation.
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MouthBQ98 said:

They're still trying to assert it is due to an apartheid that was rolled back and ended in the 1980's and 1990's? Are people really this willfully ignorant?


Oh absolutely. If that becomes the talking point people will absolutely believe it and regurgitate it.
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MouthBQ98 said:

They're still trying to assert it is due to an apartheid that was rolled back and ended in the 1980's and 1990's? Are people really this willfully ignorant?


And on top of that, you'd think they'd celebrate removing whites from "African" land

They can't even keep their Concern excuses straight and are just straight up anti-white
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Churches that are actually political organizations need to lose their tax exempt status.
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.
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There should be no financial help for any refugees. These ngo's are driving the immigration bus for profit.
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TexAgs91 said:

Churches that are actually political organizations need to lose their tax exempt status.


The PCUSA has an entire team in DC to push their radical left wing agenda. It's so far left that you'd think AOC and Illian Omar run it. Every radical left wing talking point is regularly distributed as an "action alert" for church goes. It is disgusting. They push abortion up until the child enters the birth canal (reproductive justice), abolishing the Second Amendment (school justice), higher taxes on anyone who makes a living (equity), abolishing the police, etc, in addition to gays and transvesities in the clergy and openly grooming your children. It's absolutely sick what they do. I pray and lament for them, because they have allowed Lucifer to run their church.

Yes, they should lose their tax exempt status.
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We have enough of those people that eat pets. Would you like to vacation in Haiti? Venezuela? It's their culture we don't want here.
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Kozmozag said:

There should be no financial help for any refugees. These ngo's are driving the immigration bus for profit.
Does that also mean we shouldn't be flying government charted planes to South Africa to pick them up on America's dime?
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As a former Episcopalian (now an Anglican), I can tell you this is why there was a schism in the Church a few years ago. It's a great example of how liberals can destroy any great institution. The problems in ECUSA started in the 1950s with liberal ideology getting a foothold and gaining strength with very few members noticing. Many of the clergy recognized what was happening, but by the 1990s it was obvious the only solution was a split. The ECUSA has devolved into a woke shell of what was at one time a great Christian organization. This is a case study for how toxic liberalism is.
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Stone Choir said:




To be fair, three generations and 30 minutes are equal units of time.
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Literally saving people. And, they are going to break the "Christian" NGO-USAID business model, as they won't need a lot of assistance long term, and will assimilate quickly I bet. Heck, they might even go to churches or start new ones.

I bet "Bishop" Budde won't have a word to say. At least she's not getting paid by us any longer.
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Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee
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Stone Choir said:


Of course the little girl on the right is smiling and holding a flag. It was probably handed to her by the Deputy Secretary of State for a photo op when she landed in her chartered jet that we paid for.

In case you're curious (though probably not), chartered jets and greetings from high ranking government officials is somewhere between rare and never happened before for refugees.
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Maroon Dawn said:

Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee
Venezuelans aren't just poor. They're escaping violence (including threat of death), the same as South Africans.

And I'm not a leftist. I care more about fiscal responsibility than half the people here.
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Jeeper79 said:

Stone Choir said:


Of course the little girl on the right is smiling and holding a flag. It was probably handed to her by the Deputy Secretary of State for a photo op when she landed in her chartered jet that we paid for.

In case you're curious (though probably not), chartered jets and greetings from high ranking government officials is somewhere between rare and never happened before for refugees.


The one on the left isn't a refugee

Biden just called them that to justify not stopping mass illegal migration and to try and keep them here long enough to disappear into our system
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Jeeper79 said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee
Venezuelans are just poor. They're escaping violence (including threat of death), the same as South Africans.


It's not violence from their government directed at them because of their race and religion

The UN has held time and again that "I'm poor and there's violent crime here the government doesn't do anything to stop!" does not make you a refugee. If it did Chicagoan's could flee to Canada
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aezmvp said:

My parents are angry enough to leave. My father is in the vestry and was working with the new bishop. But anything from Texas falls on deaf ears. Within a few decades the Episcopal church in the US will be a real estate trust and not a denomination. And it will be deserved. I loved the little Church behind the Corps. But they lost their minds and drove people like me away.
I thought some Episcopal priests, who were married, were allowed to join the Catholic church and say mass. Many Episcopal churches have shuttered their doors or sold the property. Wokeness is killing that church.
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As a long time Episcopalian this saddens me to the core, perhaps a restoration is needed now.
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Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.

The left obviously loves the criminal element because we've been getting boat loads of criminal Venezuelans. Don't let that fact interrupt your attempts at one of the left's favorite tropes.
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Jeeper79 said:

Stone Choir said:


Of course the little girl on the right is smiling and holding a flag. It was probably handed to her by the Deputy Secretary of State for a photo op when she landed in her chartered jet that we paid for.

In case you're curious (though probably not), chartered jets and greetings from high ranking government officials is somewhere between rare and never happened before for refugees.
Biden had over 100K flown in/year on chartered flights.

Many were greeted at the airport, heck, a whole 'welcome corps' operation was set up and funded by us (via NGO's) to enthusiastically greet the Democrat invasion, from places like Haiti etc.


The Afghans came over on charter flights mostly as well, after stopping in Germany.
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So many on the left are easily gaslit into compliance.
 
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