Episcopal Church says it won't help resettle white South Africans

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Great work by the Trump administration to bring these folks to America
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Jeeper79 said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee
Venezuelans aren't just poor. They're escaping violence (including threat of death), the same as South Africans.

And I'm not a leftist. I care more about fiscal responsibility than half the people here.
They voted for it, not the same.
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One of my sister in laws is Episcopalian. She is def whack...
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Stone Choir said:



The mask is off, this really and truly is solely about racial replacement.


Ahhh…. Everything is about color! History and facts be damned!
I imagine there is a difference in a group whose farm are being taken over, (that's okay, cuz day white) and a Venezuelan gang member who doesn't bother to catch a sponsored flight in , but sneaks in our country!
We have been conditioned by the left to look at skin color first, and be pissed at any little ole thing!
By the way, does this gal dress white? Makeup like white girls? Where does she live?
Lol, race grifter?
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The Marksman said:

Great work by the Trump administration to bring these folks to America


Out of the millions of South Africans, why just these 59? What did they do that got them the golden ticket that refugees all around the world would like to have gotten.
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59 is "just a handful" right? What is everyone worried these folks will do?
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Check the thread on terror threats on in next ten days.
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Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.
Tell me....how many of the South Africans managed to travel thousands of miles and cross multiple country borders to end up on our border and subsequently demand we take them in, give them stuff, etc?

How many of these South Africans are known gang members with tattoo'd faces and known criminal records that we are just letting waltz into our country unchecked?
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No Spin Ag said:

The Marksman said:

Great work by the Trump administration to bring these folks to America


Out of the millions of South Africans, why just these 59? What did they do that got them the golden ticket that refugees all around the world would like to have gotten.
I'm guessing, for starters, that they actually went to the US Consulate and requested asylum before doing anything else.

Well, anything else other than watching their land be forcibly taken from them against their will by a rogue government solely because they are white.
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Stone Choir said:



The mask is off, this really and truly is solely about racial replacement.





If they were born in SA, they are citizens! They didn't choose to come anywhere. Their ancestors did.

How about you get your ass back to where your homeland is?! She'll say "but I didn't choose to come to America". Well, neither did the whites born in SA!

Our founders gave the nation a plague with slavery. If they could have seen the future, they would never have done it.
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Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


Maybe there are ways to pick between groups that have nothing to do with skin color.
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Jeeper79 said:

japantiger said:

Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


White Afrikaner - legal immigration
Venezuelan - illegal

I hope that clears it up
There are TONs of legal Venezuelans.
You mean the 475k that Biden brought in en-masse as part of his invasion? Those are in the process of being deported. All for any legal Venezuelans that meet immigration law requirements.
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
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a small setback for those who see the browning of america as a planned course of action.
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bobbranco said:

aezmvp said:

My parents are angry enough to leave. My father is in the vestry and was working with the new bishop. But anything from Texas falls on deaf ears. Within a few decades the Episcopal church in the US will be a real estate trust and not a denomination. And it will be deserved. I loved the little Church behind the Corps. But they lost their minds and drove people like me away.
I thought some Episcopal priests, who were married, were allowed to join the Catholic church and say mass. Many Episcopal churches have shuttered their doors or sold the property. Wokeness is killing that church.

You are correct. I've posted this before, but it's worth posting again. Anglicans and Episcopalians have been flocking to the Catholic Church since the Anglican and Episcopalian churches ramped up their retreat from orthodoxy in the 1970s. The influx was so significant that the Catholic Church took major steps to accommodate the situation including the establishment by Pope JPII of "Anglican-use" parishes which maintain the Anglican patrimony and liturgy (with some modifications), a streamlined path for entire Anglican and Episcopalian congregations to convert as a group, and ordination of married priests into the Catholic priesthood. Eventually, enough Anglican-use parishes existed throughout the US and Canada that they were organized into an Ordinariate by Pope Benedict XVI which brought them all together under one bishop (previously, they belonged to the local diocese in which they were geographically located). Similar Ordinariates exist in the UK and Australia.

Ordinariate parishes tend to be extremely conservative because they have first-hand experience with the damage the woke left did in the Anglican and Episcopalian churches. They're also growing fast because they're attractive to conservative and traditionally-minded Catholics and the ordinariate parishes hit their radars hard when they were the first to reopen during Covid (they officially only had "private" masses while they were "closed" but anyone who wanted to attend mass was welcome, so functionally they never really closed).

If you're Anglican or Episcopalian and want to keep your patrimony but dump the woke garbage, this might be worth checking out.

Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter
Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham
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Texas velvet maestro said:

a small setback for those who see the browning of america as a planned course of action.


It's laid it all bare for everyone. They can no longer hide what It was always about and now the right can't just stick their heads in the sand and pretend it isn't real either.

We all have eyes, gaslighting won't work anymore.
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Stone Choir said:

Texas velvet maestro said:

a small setback for those who see the browning of america as a planned course of action.


It's laid it all bare for everyone. They can no longer hide what It was always about and now the right can't just stick their heads in the sand and pretend it isn't real either.

We all have eyes, gaslighting won't work anymore.
It's almost like Trump finds a way to highlight the insanity of the left at every turn....nah, couldn't be....
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
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If you're being honest the backlash from the left has to do with three things period. The level of Melanin in these South Africans, the fact that they have means to support themselves therefore not manipulatable or controllable. And there's no way to grift the NGO scam with them.
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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schmellba99 said:

No Spin Ag said:

The Marksman said:

Great work by the Trump administration to bring these folks to America


Out of the millions of South Africans, why just these 59? What did they do that got them the golden ticket that refugees all around the world would like to have gotten.
I'm guessing, for starters, that they actually went to the US Consulate and requested asylum before doing anything else.

Well, anything else other than watching their land be forcibly taken from them against their will by a rogue government solely because they are white.


So they followed the laws. Cool. That's how it should be.

Why are our tax dollars going to fly them over here, though?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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japantiger said:

Stone Choir said:

Texas velvet maestro said:

a small setback for those who see the browning of america as a planned course of action.


It's laid it all bare for everyone. They can no longer hide what It was always about and now the right can't just stick their heads in the sand and pretend it isn't real either.

We all have eyes, gaslighting won't work anymore.
It's almost like Trump finds a way to highlight the insanity of the left at every turn....nah, couldn't be....


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I hope every single white South African moves to America. We should also open up refugee status to any true European residents of European cities that have been over run by Islam and North African degenerates.

As for the episcopal "church," it's rotten to its very core.
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Maroon Elephant said:

I hope every single white South African moves to America. We should also open up refugee status to any true European residents of European cities that have been over run by Islam and North African degenerates.

As for the episcopal "church," it's rotten to its very core.


And the Black South Africans? Like the white ones, they're also not of American (U.S) descent, so why not them as well? I mean, if they, like the white ones, want to?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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No Spin Ag said:

Maroon Elephant said:

I hope every single white South African moves to America. We should also open up refugee status to any true European residents of European cities that have been over run by Islam and North African degenerates.

As for the episcopal "church," it's rotten to its very core.


And the Black South Africans? Like the white ones, they're also not of American (U.S) descent, so why not them as well? I mean, if they, like the white ones, want to?


They're welcome as long as they are in no way, shape or form associated with most black Africans who are trying to kill off the white ones.
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I can tell you from what I have seen that the graph above is absolutely going down for younger generations. There is a pretty large movement on social media for younger girls speaking out about it.
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I see that the guilt has built up in you. Noble.
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Maroon Elephant said:

No Spin Ag said:

Maroon Elephant said:

I hope every single white South African moves to America. We should also open up refugee status to any true European residents of European cities that have been over run by Islam and North African degenerates.

As for the episcopal "church," it's rotten to its very core.


And the Black South Africans? Like the white ones, they're also not of American (U.S) descent, so why not them as well? I mean, if they, like the white ones, want to?


They're welcome as long as they are in no way, shape or form associated with most black Africans who are trying to kill off the white ones.


Can't ask for more than that.
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bobbranco said:

I see that the guilt has built up in you. Noble.


I'm Brown, I have no guilt.
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No Spin Ag said:

bobbranco said:

I see that the guilt has built up in you. Noble.


I'm Brown, I have no guilt.
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No Spin Ag said:

bobbranco said:

I see that the guilt has built up in you. Noble.


I'm Brown, I have no guilt.

Criminal aliens feel the same.
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No Spin Ag said:

one safe place said:

Jeeper79 said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee
Venezuelans aren't just poor. They're escaping violence (including threat of death), the same as South Africans.

And I'm not a leftist. I care more about fiscal responsibility than half the people here.
I fully support us providing them with a .22 and 1,000 rounds of hollow point ammo so they can fight the violence and/or overthrow their government in their own country and make their country more like they wish it to be.


So you support Ukraine by giving them the weapons they need to kick Putin out of all the land Putin's military has taken so Ukraine can again have the country like they wished it to be before Putin's invasion?
I don't support "giving" anyone anything. Sell, cash in advance, to the side we hope wins the dispute, None of our money, none of our fighting men and women. Ukraine and Russia can lean on those much closer to the conflict for involvement in the fight..
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Just so you know, I have attended 3 different Anglican Churches over the last few years, and there was absolutely nothing "woke" about any of them. I live west of Ft Worth and things may be different elsewhere
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Soooooo Christian of them.
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte

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Anyone who can read this and say this isn't persecution is delusional. This screams "they go away before we could throw them in the gulag, rape them, murder them, and then steal their land. "Historical justice" is an obvious sign of what their real plans were.

If you are a white South African this is what is coming for you.
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Hmm, interesting nickname of this fellow.



So they are communists, seeking to punish white people.
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Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.
Um, one is more desirable because they're more productive people. It takes about 5 seconds to understand that.
 
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