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My parents are angry enough to leave. My father is in the vestry and was working with the new bishop. But anything from Texas falls on deaf ears. Within a few decades the Episcopal church in the US will be a real estate trust and not a denomination. And it will be deserved. I loved the little Church behind the Corps. But they lost their minds and drove people like me away.

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I thought some Episcopal priests, who were married, were allowed to join the Catholic church and say mass. Many Episcopal churches have shuttered their doors or sold the property. Wokeness is killing that church.

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This is a fairly common thing. I also know a former Catholic priest that is now an Anglican priest.

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I also know a former Catholic priest that is now an Anglican priest.

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Probably found the Catholic church too strict or some kerfuffle developed.

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As a long time Episcopalian this saddens me to the core, perhaps a restoration is needed now.

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I'm afraid it's too late for that. Maybe try an Anglican Church and see what you think

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I also know a former Catholic priest that is now an Anglican priest.

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Probably found the Catholic church too strict or some kerfuffle developed.

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He is a big time beer brewer, and apparently was selling some of the brew for a profit and that was a no no.

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He is a big time beer brewer, and apparently was selling some of the brew for a profit and that was a no no.

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Surprised the KofC did not find a special dispensation for his profitable scheme.

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Confirmed Episcopalian here. I spent years in the episcopal church.

I have renounced my affiliation. That place is whack.

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And this is how this church will be destroyed, one member at a time. Thanks libs

Next move: said church tax-exempt status is revoked

White people are not refugees, they are colonizers. Duh!

Holy joes are often the worst bigots IMHO

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And they wonder why we’re deporting them… pic.twitter.com/blk9XlyFHv

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) May 13, 2025

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This is why I hate meme politics. The left is just false. Every survey you can find shows us that Hispanics identity as white by the third generation.

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On May 5th at the high schools here in Northwest Arkansas, all the Mexican students were donning Mexico flags, colors and music. They're very adamant about how great Mexico is. So, the picture that was depicted on the left is spot on. And the public schools up here are almost 50% Hispanic. Those kids should go spend some time in the motherland since it's so great. Our small crime rate up here would be nonexistent at the same time. Win/win!

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That does nothing to refute what I said. The meme referred to third generation immigrants. First generation immigrants do identify with their homeland at least as much as they do the U.S. 2nd Gen immigrants (first born here) speak both languages and consider themselves Americans but feel a family pull to their homeland. Third generation don't even consider themselves immigrants. That was true 100 years ago when they were coming from Europe.

For those of us that don't pay attention to the continent of Africa, what's going on that's causing us to spend our tax dollars to go across the world to pick up refugees from South Africa? I mean, I thought we didn't want any more.

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With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.

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There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee

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Venezuelans aren't just poor. They're escaping violence (including threat of death), the same as South Africans.

And I'm not a leftist. I care more about fiscal responsibility than half the people here.

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I fully support us providing them with a .22 and 1,000 rounds of hollow point ammo so they can fight the violence and/or overthrow their government in their own country and make their country more like they wish it to be.

Good Trump. Future presidents will thank him for this.

The website set up to help white South Africans come to the United States boasts about how much government assistance they can get and how you don't have to prove anyone persecuted you at all. pic.twitter.com/Hihx5ux9K2

— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) May 13, 2025

Liberals have made sure that white prejudice is thriving worldwide.

Anyone read their ridiculous letter?

May 12, 2025

Dear People of God in The Episcopal Church:

I am writing today with some significant news about Episcopal Migration Ministries, the organization that leads The Episcopal Church's refugee resettlement ministry.

Since January, the previously bipartisan U.S. Refugee Admissions Program in which we participate has essentially shut down. Virtually no new refugees have arrived, hundreds of staff in resettlement agencies around the country have been laid off, and funding for resettling refugees who have already arrived has been uncertain. Then, just over two weeks ago, the federal government informed Episcopal Migration Ministries that under the terms of our federal grant, we are expected to resettle white Afrikaners from South Africa whom the U.S. government has classified as refugees.

In light of our church's steadfast commitment to racial justice and reconciliation and our historic ties with the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, we are not able to take this step. Accordingly, we have determined that, by the end of the federal fiscal year, we will conclude our refugee resettlement grant agreements with the U.S. federal government.

I want to be very clear about why we made this decisionand what we believe lies ahead for Episcopal Migration Ministries' vital work.

It has been painful to watch one group of refugees, selected in a highly unusual manner, receive preferential treatment over many others who have been waiting in refugee camps or dangerous conditions for years. I am saddened and ashamed that many of the refugees who are being denied entrance to the United States are brave people who worked alongside our military in Iraq and Afghanistan and now face danger at home because of their service to our country. I also grieve that victims of religious persecution, including Christians, have not been granted refuge in recent months.

As Christians, we must be guided not by political vagaries, but by the sure and certain knowledge that the kingdom of God is revealed to us in the struggles of those on the margins. Jesus tells us to care for the poor and vulnerable as we would care for him, and we must follow that command. Right now, what that means is ending our participation in the federal government's refugee resettlement program and investing our resources in serving migrants in other ways.

For nearly 40 years, Episcopal Migration Ministries has put hands and feet to our church's commitment to seek and serve Christ in migrants and refugees. We have served nearly 110,000 refugees during this time, many of whom are now American citizens and beloved members of our communities, workplaces, and neighborhoods. Over the years, EMM has resettled individuals from Ukraine, Democratic Republic of Congo, and Myanmar. We have supported vulnerable populations from across the globe, regardless of nationality.

Since March, a dedicated team of Episcopal Migration Ministries employees has fulfilled our commitment to serve people who arrived just before or in the first days of the new administration. Now that we are ending our involvement in federally funded refugee resettlement, we have asked the administration to work toward a mutual agreement that will allow us to wind down all federally funded services by the end of the federal fiscal year in September. We are working with the affected staff members to provide extensive outplacement services and severance packages.

I have said before that no change in political fortunes alters our commitment to stand with the world's most vulnerable people, and I want to reaffirm that promise. While our public-private partnership as a refugee resettlement agency is no longer viable, we are hard at work on a churchwide plan to support migrants and refugees through:

Diocesan partnerships: We have vibrant ministries around the church serving migrants of all kinds. Episcopalians support newcomers through education, direct service, and advocacy. Our dioceses also work to address the root causes of migration. We pledge to redouble our efforts to support these ministries and the migrants among us.
Global connections: We will invest in our ministries that support forced migrants throughout the countries and territories of The Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion. This includes our powerful ministry in Europe, where the Convocation of Episcopal Churches in Europe has served more than 140,000 refugees in the last two years, primarily from North Africa, Ukraine, and Central Asia. We will continue to work with our dioceses and Anglican partners throughout Central America to help those seeking safety.
Continued support for refugees: While new refugee arrivals and funding have been curtailed by the current administration, thousands of refugees welcomed by Episcopal Migration Ministries in previous years still need support. We will invite Episcopalians to connect with resettled refugees and explore how to continue services we have long providedlanguage services, continuing education, support with childcare, and job training. If refugee resettlement begins again with the support of private sponsors, we will explore those new possibilities.
Fundraising: It is important to understand the scale of federal grant money from which we are stepping away. In most recent years, Episcopal Migration Ministries received more than $50 million annually in federal funds. This is not a loss that can be bridged with donor funds or proceeds from investments. However, we will raise funds for new and expanded migration ministries across the church and for our partners in this ministry. You can contribute to this new work by making a donation on the Episcopal Migration Ministries website.
In the coming weeks, Episcopal Migration Ministries will share more news about how to be involved. In the meantime, please pray for vetted refugees who have not been granted permission to come to this country, for the staff who will be affected by the end of these federal grants, and for everyone who grieves the end of our federal refugee resettlement work.

May our faith in the Risen Christ, who draws all people to himself, sustain and guide us through the tumult of these times.


The Most Rev. Sean W. Rowe
Presiding Bishop
The Episcopal Church


The sentence that I highlighted stands out with all the hypocrisy oozing out of this letter.

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Jeeper79 said:

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With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.

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There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee

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Venezuelans aren't just poor. They're escaping violence (including threat of death), the same as South Africans.

And I'm not a leftist. I care more about fiscal responsibility than half the people here.

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I fully support us providing them with a .22 and 1,000 rounds of hollow point ammo so they can fight the violence and/or overthrow their government in their own country and make their country more like they wish it to be.

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So you support Ukraine by giving them the weapons they need to kick Putin out of all the land Putin's military has taken so Ukraine can again have the country like they wished it to be before Putin's invasion?

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Jeeper79 said:

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With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.

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White Afrikaner - legal immigration
Venezuelan - illegal

I hope that clears it up

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So Chris Rock was right when he said, "If it's all white it's all right?"

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With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.

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White Afrikaner - legal immigration
Venezuelan - illegal

I hope that clears it up

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There are TONs of legal Venezuelans.

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Venezuelans have plenty of South and Central American nations where they can seek asylum. These Afrikaners have no place to go. Also, we deserve part of the blame for pressuring them to blow up their system that worked and allowing this. Venezuelans chose to go communist and it is a shame because that country was so prosperous just a little over two decades ago.

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What system did we pressure them to blow up, and when did that happen?

Whoop2oo1 said:

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Venezuelans have plenty of South and Central American nations where they can seek asylum. These Afrikaners have no place to go. Also, we deserve part of the blame for pressuring them to blow up their system that worked and allowing this. Venezuelans chose to go communist and it is a shame because that country was so prosperous just a little over two decades ago.

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Venezuelans are the Palestinians of Central America - nobody wants them, for good reason.

Yes, S Africa's old system worked very well, but globalists turned against another productive society.

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Whoop2oo1 said:

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Venezuelans have plenty of South and Central American nations where they can seek asylum. These Afrikaners have no place to go. Also, we deserve part of the blame for pressuring them to blow up their system that worked and allowing this. Venezuelans chose to go communist and it is a shame because that country was so prosperous just a little over two decades ago.

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What system did we pressure them to blow up, and when did that happen?

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Apartheid, 90s

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So we're trying to fix things we were a part of a third of a century ago? How far back, and into how many countries should we go into, including the brown ones, that we did similar to with South Africa?

I mean, in for a penny, in for a pound with this precedence. If not this administration , one can see the next liberal president saying "Hold my beer."

That letter reads like someone from the DNC drafted it. It mentions "vetted" individuals that they want to help. Perhaps they should publish that list in order to get private donations. Oh wait, there is no list of vetted migrants