Episcopal Church says it won't help resettle white South Africans

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Owlagdad said:

Stone Choir said:



The mask is off, this really and truly is solely about racial replacement.


Ahhh…. Everything is about color! History and facts be damned!
I imagine there is a difference in a group whose farm are being taken over, (that's okay, cuz day white) and a Venezuelan gang member who doesn't bother to catch a sponsored flight in , but sneaks in our country!
We have been conditioned by the left to look at skin color first, and be pissed at any little ole thing!
By the way, does this gal dress white? Makeup like white girls? Where does she live?
Lol, race grifter?
Grifter, yes. But more important, she's a rich, educated colonizer too. Maybe she should head back to Africa?
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Highway6 said:

Just so you know, I have attended 3 different Anglican Churches over the last few years, and there was absolutely nothing "woke" about any of them. I live west of Ft Worth and things may be different elsewhere


I assume he's talking about Anglican communion, not ACNA. Evident form the fact he's talking about the 1970's

It's just a mistake, an honest one. Hell I didn't know the ACNA existed until about a couple months ago. They are pretty new
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one safe place said:

No Spin Ag said:

one safe place said:

Jeeper79 said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee
Venezuelans aren't just poor. They're escaping violence (including threat of death), the same as South Africans.

And I'm not a leftist. I care more about fiscal responsibility than half the people here.
I fully support us providing them with a .22 and 1,000 rounds of hollow point ammo so they can fight the violence and/or overthrow their government in their own country and make their country more like they wish it to be.


So you support Ukraine by giving them the weapons they need to kick Putin out of all the land Putin's military has taken so Ukraine can again have the country like they wished it to be before Putin's invasion?
I don't support "giving" anyone anything. Sell, cash in advance, to the side we hope wins the dispute, None of our money, none of our fighting men and women. Ukraine and Russia can lean on those much closer to the conflict for involvement in the fight..


I hear you, but and it comes to proximity, we're (as a country) nowhere near South Africa. Also, the reason I asked about Ukraine was because you mentioned supplying guns and ammo to the south Africans, so it seemed like a good question to ask.
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Captain Pablo said:

Highway6 said:

Just so you know, I have attended 3 different Anglican Churches over the last few years, and there was absolutely nothing "woke" about any of them. I live west of Ft Worth and things may be different elsewhere


I assume he's talking about Anglican communion, not ACNA. Evident form the fact he's talking about the 1970's

It's just a mistake, an honest one. Hell I didn't know the ACNA existed until about a couple months ago. They are pretty new
Yes, the ACNA was formed in 2009.
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It's already too late, by a few decades at least. My dad helped build St. Thomas and I was baptized in that church by Bishop Oxley. I haven't set foot in an Episcopal church in over three decades.
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TexAgs91 said:

Churches that are actually political organizations need to lose their tax exempt status.
I grew up Catholic, they need to be first on the damn list
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I have lost all respect for those CINOs.
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MouthBQ98 said:

They willfully Don't know history I suppose. The Afrikaaners or whatever they call themselves have been there for 300+ years. There were virtually no local native African tribes established in what was a fairly harsh desert area. The settlers built a functioning agricultural society and as they developed the land and build cities, it attracted African tribal groups from further north in the region to move in for opportunities. Most of those populations are actually the more recent arrivals to that particular geography. Who then is more native to South Africa itself?
Good post. The first Dutch permanent settlement was 1652, almost 400 years ago. The land was sparsely populated by nomadic hunter gatherers and herders known by various names, including Koi-San, who were genetically and linguistically unrelated to the later Bantu tribes that moved in from the north and now dominate demographically. While apartheid was wrong and should have been dismantled, it was the stated vision of Mandela that all groups should live in harmony and there should be reconciliation not retribution. Since the passing of Mandela and the global rise in popularity of the idea that whites are always and exclusively the oppressors, it's become fashionable to discriminate against and kill white farmers and stated government policy to dispossess them of their land.
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Highway6 said:

Just so you know, I have attended 3 different Anglican Churches over the last few years, and there was absolutely nothing "woke" about any of them. I live west of Ft Worth and things may be different elsewhere


Correct. Diocese of Fort Worth split off, there are some rec churches in the Dallas area, and others I'm not aware of I'm sure that are nothing like that.

But the Catholics are always recruiting so he has to post it. Unity through the ordinariate, and Latin mass, and novus ordo, and…
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SenorLiebre said:

It's already too late, by a few decades at least. My dad helped build St. Thomas and I was baptized in that church by Bishop Oxley. I haven't set foot in an Episcopal church in over three decades.
I love the service and the music of the Episcopal church. St. Thomas is the first place I attended an Episcopal service. The current Bishop of Texas is fairly moderate, but the national church is radically left politically. My own church is probably middle of the road, maybe slightly left, overall. I have been there for a long time, and don't really want to leave, but things like this make me think long and hard.
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Flavius Agximus said:

SenorLiebre said:

It's already too late, by a few decades at least. My dad helped build St. Thomas and I was baptized in that church by Bishop Oxley. I haven't set foot in an Episcopal church in over three decades.
I love the service and the music of the Episcopal church. St. Thomas is the first place I attended an Episcopal service. The current Bishop of Texas is fairly moderate, but the national church is radically left politically. My own church is probably middle of the road, maybe slightly left, overall. I have been there for a long time, and don't really want to leave, but things like this make me think long and hard.


Good luck. I have friends hiding locally in a congregation with a conservative priest, but when he retires I don't hold much hope for them. Young priest is nice now, we'll see if he changes (old young priest moved away and went hard left, so clearly limited himself while here).
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Even so-called black Christians are saying the persecution and murder of the Boer is justicified. Really incredible to watch this all happen.
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Jeeper79 said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee
Venezuelans aren't just poor. They're escaping violence (including threat of death), the same as South Africans.

And I'm not a leftist. I care more about fiscal responsibility than half the people here.
No they aren't they are "escaping" the policies they voted for. Completely different and they have countries NEXT to Venezuela to take them in.

What country is willing to take in whites next to South Africa. I will be waiting a long time for your misinformed response. Let me help you

THERE IS NO GD COUNTRY NEXT TO S AFRICA TO TAKE THEM IN!

You should sit this one out, maybe not, you already look foolish
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Stone Choir said:



The mask is off, this really and truly is solely about racial replacement.
Soooo...

What she is saying is that, if a person that is not a native of a country, lets say the USA, is not happy with the way the country is run/progressing, that they should go back to their country of original origin, lets say Africa? No matter how far back their ancestors arrived?

I'm good with that.
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No Spin Ag said:

For those of us that don't pay attention to the continent of Africa, what's going on that's causing us to spend our tax dollars to go across the world to pick up refugees from South Africa? I mean, I thought we didn't want any more.
You are kidding right?

They just elected a man that ran on killing all whites or removing them from the country

They have been killing the whites in S Africa for over 20 years, millions have been raped and murdered
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DCPD158 said:

Stone Choir said:



The mask is off, this really and truly is solely about racial replacement.
Soooo...

What she is saying is that, if a person that is not a native of a country, lets say the USA, is not happy with the way the country is run/progressing, that they should go back to their country of original origin, lets say Africa? No matter how far back their ancestors arrived?

I'm good with that.


Line up the Spirit Airlines fleet
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DCPD158 said:

Stone Choir said:



The mask is off, this really and truly is solely about racial replacement.
Soooo...

What she is saying is that, if a person that is not a native of a country, lets say the USA, is not happy with the way the country is run/progressing, that they should go back to their country of original origin, lets say Africa? No matter how far back their ancestors arrived?

I'm good with that.


Where you going? I'm going back to Ireland or Germany I guess
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Whoop2oo1 said:

Venezuelans have plenty of South and Central American nations where they can seek asylum. These Afrikaners have no place to go. Also, we deserve part of the blame for pressuring them to blow up their system that worked and allowing this. Venezuelans chose to go communist and it is a shame because that country was so prosperous just a little over two decades ago.
This 100%

Cannot believe some people on here are so dumb to not see this, ignorant
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Dill-Ag13 said:

DCPD158 said:

Stone Choir said:



The mask is off, this really and truly is solely about racial replacement.
Soooo...

What she is saying is that, if a person that is not a native of a country, lets say the USA, is not happy with the way the country is run/progressing, that they should go back to their country of original origin, lets say Africa? No matter how far back their ancestors arrived?

I'm good with that.


Where you going? I'm going back to Ireland or Germany I guess
Not going anywhere. I'm happy here, so I don't have to go back to Ireland, Scotland or Germany.

Only grumpy guts have to go home.
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Fair, missed the first part
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A LOT of willfully obtuse ostriches on this thread playing what about ism and simply being dorks.
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Stone Choir said:



Even so-called black Christians are saying the persecution and murder of the Boer is justicified. Really incredible to watch this all happen.
That is not what he meant.



"Some people with an agenda are intentionally twisting my words to further their agenda.

But I know that some sincere people might be confused about the 3rd sentence. I meant to say:

But [no] one is talking about this important point: discrimination against white South Africans is justified as revenge for the Apartheid."

There are two possible interpretations, depending on whether someone sees the word "justified" in that sentence as an adjective or a verb.

Some people think I'm using it as an adjective. Meaning, they think I'm saying it's right to discriminate against white South Africans.

But I used "justified" as verb. Which means, I'm describing how others feel. That is more consistent with the entire tweet.

I'm saying the discrimination is "being justified." I am not saying I believe it is justifiable to discriminate against white South Africans.

The amusing thing about the misinterpretation is I'm saying the exact opposite. The entire tweet, especially the last sentence should make that clear.

It's understandable that some people misunderstand that sentence. However, it's always best, more kind to interpret unclear sentences through its context.

The entire tweet and my history should have made the unclear statement more "clear." "
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No Spin Ag said:

schmellba99 said:

No Spin Ag said:

The Marksman said:

Great work by the Trump administration to bring these folks to America


Out of the millions of South Africans, why just these 59? What did they do that got them the golden ticket that refugees all around the world would like to have gotten.
I'm guessing, for starters, that they actually went to the US Consulate and requested asylum before doing anything else.

Well, anything else other than watching their land be forcibly taken from them against their will by a rogue government solely because they are white.


So they followed the laws. Cool. That's how it should be.

Why are our tax dollars going to fly them over here, though?
Because they asked for help, and we agreed to help them.

Following the rules, laws and asking for help sometimes has perks.
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Walsh has gone full defcon 4 based.
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White farmers produce like 90% of the agriculture in SA. I hope the black Africans are able to take that over and feed themselves.

Who am I kidding, that's not going to happen. We've seen this play out already in Zimbabwe!

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Zimbabwe's land reform program in the early 2000s, which involved seizing farms from white farmers, led to severe economic disruption and widespread food shortages, bringing the country close to starvation.
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Maroon Dawn said:

Jeeper79 said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee
Venezuelans are just poor. They're escaping violence (including threat of death), the same as South Africans.


It's not violence from their government directed at them because of their race and religion

The UN has held time and again that "I'm poor and there's violent crime here the government doesn't do anything to stop!" does not make you a refugee. If it did Chicagoan's could flee to Canada


I thought we wanted people from **** hole countries to stay there and fix their problems. Why is this different?
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Logos Stick said:


Not surprising. The Episcopal Church is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity.

On the subject of abortion, they are in "unequivocal opposition to any legislation on the part of the national or state governments which would abridge or deny the right of individuals to reach informed decisions in this matter and to act upon them."

https://episcopalarchives.org/cgi-bin/acts/acts_resolution.pl?resolution=1976-D095
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Jeeper79 said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Jeeper79 said:

With Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, they have to realize it cuts both ways. Do white Afrikaners qualify to be here as refugees? Sure. But so do plenty of dark skinned Venezuelans.

If you're against neither, I get it. If you're against both, I get it. But what I don't get is anyone picking one group and not the other.


There it is folks!

The patented Leftist equivocating!

"I'm poor and want to be less poor" is the same as "I am actively being persecuted by my government for my race" and both make you a refugee
Venezuelans are just poor. They're escaping violence (including threat of death), the same as South Africans.


It's not violence from their government directed at them because of their race and religion

The UN has held time and again that "I'm poor and there's violent crime here the government doesn't do anything to stop!" does not make you a refugee. If it did Chicagoan's could flee to Canada


I thought we wanted people from **** hole countries to stay there and fix their problems. Why is this different?



As usual you're being intentionally obtuse and pretending a gang banger from Venezuela here illegally is the same as white South Africans being persecuted by their government for being white
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It's amazing how nuanced this conversation becomes when you're told who should and shouldn't come to this country. Nobody said anything about gangbangers when they thought immigrants from **** hole countries should stay and fight for their country.

Gang bangers from any country shouldn't be here.
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Logos Stick said:

White farmers produce like 90% of the agriculture in SA. I hope the black Africans are able to take that over and feed themselves.

Who am I kidding, that's not going to happen. We've seen this play out already in Zimbabwe!

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Zimbabwe's land reform program in the early 2000s, which involved seizing farms from white farmers, led to severe economic disruption and widespread food shortages, bringing the country close to starvation.



Dad went hunting there. His white hunting guide told him how they took most of their land and gave it to them tribes

He said the first thing they did was kill all the livestock and eat it. Then cut all the trees down and sold it for firewood. He said now it's basically Baron and just dirt

This is such a great plan for s Africa
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rynning said:

Logos Stick said:


Not surprising. The Episcopal Church is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity.

On the subject of abortion, they are in "unequivocal opposition to any legislation on the part of the national or state governments which would abridge or deny the right of individuals to reach informed decisions in this matter and to act upon them."

https://episcopalarchives.org/cgi-bin/acts/acts_resolution.pl?resolution=1976-D095


Having moved to Austin at 7, my parents took us to an Episcopal church on Lake Travis because we had family who went there (St Luke's on the Lake). I honestly think they did it because they are so family-centered but nobody was truly into it. I had to go through confirmation and get baptized, memorized what I needed to, and went through the motions, and absolutely hated it.

Been non-demonational for 20+ years and never looked back.
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APHIS AG said:

And lets see how they fair when that "grant" goes away.

They must have got some USaid money that Biden gave out right at the end
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Logos Stick said:

White farmers produce like 90% of the agriculture in SA. I hope the black Africans are able to take that over and feed themselves.

Who am I kidding, that's not going to happen. We've seen this play out already in Zimbabwe!

Quote:

Zimbabwe's land reform program in the early 2000s, which involved seizing farms from white farmers, led to severe economic disruption and widespread food shortages, bringing the country close to starvation.



Blue hats will be air dropping rice in a less than a year
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