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When you are entrapping creeps with pedophilia, you better have your ducks in a row not to be charged yourself.

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A job made easy if you rep foreign intelligence who has powerful influence in our political system

flown-the-coop said:

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Gig em G said:

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That last sentence is so on the money... Which is why I want the lid to blow off on this deal and expose it all. I want my damn country back, and not controlled by f***ing endless webs of black ops and blackmail...

That said, I feel pretty certain the sex trafficking, minor abuse stuff is very much still going on just like everything else... It's too effective for entrapping elite creeps who have everything and cannot be satiated. It just probably hasn't been Epstein himself involved in recent years. It's some other network. Just like there was the Franklin Credit Union scandal in the 80s, then Epstein, etc

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Why include the reference to Franklin Credit Union scandal?

I mean, that would seem to undermine Epstein being a grand manipulator and more likely ran a small, but well finance and well connected young tail escort service that at times included underage girls.

When you are entrapping creeps with pedophilia, you better have your ducks in a row not to be charged yourself. Why would the coordinators risk it knowing they would be the first hung out to dry if it ever blew up?

There were quite a few pedo / satanic cult cases in the time of Franklin Credit Union that similarly turned out to be hoaxes. FBI may be able to cover some stuff up, but creating convincing "hoax" narratives to cover up child sex trafficking is not going to fly with enough people to stay hidden.

Back to Epstein, seems to me to still be a lack of whistleblowers confirming the deep state involvement covering for an intelligence pedo honeypot program.

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IDK, why wouldn't I reference it?

It's just an other example of an underage sex trafficking network that from all accounts, was facilitated and supported by the intelligence of at the very least the US government. It just got buried, like Epstein... and blatantly so. But much easier without the internet.

And why would Epstein/Maxwell or Lawrence King/Craig Spence risk doing what they did? I don't know....maybe because they are all sadistic pedophiles that amassed a fortune blackmailing high profile people for whatever sick, sexual proclivities they themselves indulged in. F**** THEM

Gig em G said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Gig em G said:

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That last sentence is so on the money... Which is why I want the lid to blow off on this deal and expose it all. I want my damn country back, and not controlled by f***ing endless webs of black ops and blackmail...

That said, I feel pretty certain the sex trafficking, minor abuse stuff is very much still going on just like everything else... It's too effective for entrapping elite creeps who have everything and cannot be satiated. It just probably hasn't been Epstein himself involved in recent years. It's some other network. Just like there was the Franklin Credit Union scandal in the 80s, then Epstein, etc

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Why include the reference to Franklin Credit Union scandal?

I mean, that would seem to undermine Epstein being a grand manipulator and more likely ran a small, but well finance and well connected young tail escort service that at times included underage girls.

When you are entrapping creeps with pedophilia, you better have your ducks in a row not to be charged yourself. Why would the coordinators risk it knowing they would be the first hung out to dry if it ever blew up?

There were quite a few pedo / satanic cult cases in the time of Franklin Credit Union that similarly turned out to be hoaxes. FBI may be able to cover some stuff up, but creating convincing "hoax" narratives to cover up child sex trafficking is not going to fly with enough people to stay hidden.

Back to Epstein, seems to me to still be a lack of whistleblowers confirming the deep state involvement covering for an intelligence pedo honeypot program.

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IDK, why wouldn't I reference it?

It's just an other example of an underage sex trafficking network that from all accounts, was facilitated and supported by the intelligence of at the very least the US government. It just got buried, like Epstein... and blatantly so. But much easier without the internet.

And why would Epstein/Maxwell or Lawrence King/Craig Spence risk doing what they did? I don't know....maybe because they are all sadistic pedophiles that amassed a fortune blackmailing high profile people for whatever sick, sexual proclivities they themselves indulged in. F**** THEM

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You don't need to be getting angry, it's legit to point out some pretty big gaps between Epstein and Lawrence King.

If you want to dive into the possibilities, you should start in the UK and Western Europe. The make Epstein look like a low rent pimp in Ohio.

Mossad and the CIA don't need to dirty their hands to get the Kompromat suggested in some of these wild theories.

This goes back to my previous thoughts on Epstein. It just looks sloppy which means amateur which means a lot of false stories, leads, etc. Epstein boxes above his weight class, but a Prince may be his top prize.

But let it all come out.

flown-the-coop said:

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You don't need to be getting angry, it's legit to point out some pretty big gaps between Epstein and Lawrence King.

If you want to dive into the possibilities, you should start in the UK and Western Europe. The make Epstein look like a low rent pimp in Ohio.

Mossad and the CIA don't need to dirty their hands to get the Kompromat suggested in some of these wild theories.

This goes back to my previous thoughts on Epstein. It just looks sloppy which means amateur which means a lot of false stories, leads, etc. Epstein boxes above his weight class, but a Prince may be his top prize.

But let it all come out.

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No worries, my rage was only towards the people involved

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Keyno said:

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We went from “the files don’t exist” to “there are over a million documents” pretty quickly.

— Dave Smith (@ComicDaveSmith) December 26, 2025

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It's amazing we let both sides get away with this level of corruption without marching on Washington. The founding fathers wouldn't claim us.

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Easier to get away with after putting so much effort into pitting the people against each other.

So after giant release of files full of half naked Bubba along with wild, baseless accusations against others, and some fake pen pal letters, the updates today are Massie toddling and tantrumming like the ***** he is followed by trolling memes?

Seems like Trump figures a peace deal for Ukraine is a better place to focus his time.

I would be more interested in actual facts and evidence of Mossads involvement but instead its 1980's fale sex scandals, Epstein makes 007 look amateur, give Guthrie the Presidential Medal of freedom and a terrible meme that would embarrass even those on the far left.

Bizarre.

flown-the-coop said:

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So after giant release of files full of half naked Bubba along with wild, baseless accusations against others, and some fake pen pal letters, the updates today are Massie toddling and tantrumming like the ***** he is followed by trolling memes?

Seems like Trump figures a peace deal for Ukraine is a better place to focus his time.

I would be more interested in actual facts and evidence of Mossads involvement but instead its 1980's fale sex scandals, Epstein makes 007 look amateur, give Guthrie the Presidential Medal of freedom and a terrible meme that would embarrass even those on the far left.

Bizarre.

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There have been many posts of evidence over the past 162 pages of this thread that point to Mossad and possibly the CIA's involvement as well...I think you just don't want to honestly consider them.

Actual facts and evidence. Not coincidences and supposition.

There is hardly convincing evidence Epstein was at the center of some global Mossad pedo honeypot operation.

It falls much more in the category of feeding underage girls and their unborn children to alligators in Lake Michigan.

What did your research on UK and European pedo rings show you?

Epstein went to Israel after his arrest. He refused to come back to the states unless a really good deal was made. Home arrests for raping kids…. Why didn't Israel extradite him? How did he know he wouldn't be by the Israeli government? Why did the prosecutor say he was told to give him a good deal because he's Intel?

So did Acosta testify to congress what a month or so ago? He explained the plea deal. You can choose not believe him, but he did explain.

Epstein had made some friends in particular in the wealthy Jewish community. Many business dealings that appear to be legit, along with some connections to intelligence.

If you care to read what I had previously posted, I have no doubt that Epstein had contact with intelligence agencies. You participate in deal making, financing and the like with wealthy, powerful and politically connected folk, that's going to be quite normal.

I do not believe there has been evidence that Epstein was developing kompromat on his connections at the direction or for the use by foreign and/or domestic intelligence officials to control these individuals through blackmail.

What I think may lend some credence to that is how the Prince Andrew aspect is ultimately resolved. One would think that in these Epstein files there is much more information on Epstein and Andrew. If that information does not exist or is heavily redacted, that would speak to some deal making between the US and England to sweep that under the rug.

A cover up at that level would suggest that England may have a card or two to play back agains the US… for instance, exposing some ongoing operation that got out of control.

BTW - If you argue that Epstein was running a honeypot to blackmail the elite, then it sort of 100% exonerates Trump from anything nefarious. It emboldens the rationale that if anything embarrassing had been gathered on Trump, it would have been deployed previously.

Who ran his island? Who did the sheets? The grocery shopping? The cooking, the cleaning, the HVAC maintenance, the gardening, the vehicle maintenance, etc etc etc. How come we don't have testimonies from anyone like that? It's because the entire thing was a government ran operation.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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Epstein went to Israel after his arrest. He refused to come back to the states unless a really good deal was made. Home arrests for raping kids…. Why didn't Israel extradite him? How did he know he wouldn't be by the Israeli government? Why did the prosecutor say he was told to give him a good deal because he's Intel?

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Epstein only came back after he was given a sweetheart deal.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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Who ran his island? Who did the sheets? The grocery shopping? The cooking, the cleaning, the HVAC maintenance, the gardening, the vehicle maintenance, etc etc etc. How come we don't have testimonies from anyone like that? It's because the entire thing was a government ran operation.

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The property could have been managed by a property manager that just keeps it prepped while the owner is away. They wouldn't necessarily have knowledge of what the owner does while he visits with friends, although they would see the creepy artwork.

There's so many redactions, and the lack of prosecution despite the evidence indicates whatever the truth is, the government doesn't want it known. It doesn't take much imagination to believe they are covering up a web of spying and influence peddling.

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flown-the-coop said:

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So after giant release of files full of half naked Bubba along with wild, baseless accusations against others, and some fake pen pal letters, the updates today are Massie toddling and tantrumming like the ***** he is followed by trolling memes?

Seems like Trump figures a peace deal for Ukraine is a better place to focus his time.

I would be more interested in actual facts and evidence of Mossads involvement but instead its 1980's fale sex scandals, Epstein makes 007 look amateur, give Guthrie the Presidential Medal of freedom and a terrible meme that would embarrass even those on the far left.

Bizarre.

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Relax brother. Nobody is buying what you're selling on this topic. It's not hard to read something and keep scrolling. There are a billion other topics on TexAgs to play Red and Blue on, don't try to get this one shut down.

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I don't mind providing commentary pointing out how ludicrous the claims are and how terrible the memes can be. You can relax brother, this is not your personal playground.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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Who ran his island? Who did the sheets? The grocery shopping? The cooking, the cleaning, the HVAC maintenance, the gardening, the vehicle maintenance, etc etc etc. How come we don't have testimonies from anyone like that? It's because the entire thing was a government ran operation.

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Ahh yes, government operations are notoriously great about keeping their clandestine operations under wraps for years using a whole secret brigade of cooks, cleaners, sheet washers and shoppers. Yep, that's very believable.

Were the people that worked at the grocery stores in on it too? How about their suppliers? The farmers? Just give some rationale thought about how they ran a secret pedo island as a government operation.

You know it as a private island right? There was no grocery stores.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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You know it as a private island right? There was no grocery stores.

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Never been but it's a safe assumption. You are the one who mentioned groceries, sheets, cars and cleaning. Expand on your grand conspiracy that it was run as a CIA secret base for pedos.

It's a private island in the Caribbean with massive facilities. Takes a lot of staff to run it. You think Epstein is doing turn down service for his guest? Or cooking their meals? Or keeping the golf cart batteries charged? Come on man

Not sure if you are trying to just troll yourself at this point. But anyways…

It would be somewhat bizarre for these secret government workers staffing the island to sign NDAs then start speaking out about their work on the island. But whatever floats your dingy (or boat), have at it.

https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-private-island-former-employees-speak-out-2019-7

So where is the grocery store?

They don't have to be government employees to be working for an Intel agency lol. You think we sign up every person to government payroll who does a service for the cia? My point is a few unnamed former employees isn't quite like getting everyone whoever worked there to testify under oath. If one was trying to investigate what took place there that's what you would do. And since we haven't there's no investigation as to what took place there truly. And it begs the question why not?

flown-the-coop said:

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Actual facts and evidence. Not coincidences and supposition.

There is hardly convincing evidence Epstein was at the center of some global Mossad pedo honeypot operation.

It falls much more in the category of feeding underage girls and their unborn children to alligators in Lake Michigan.

What did your research on UK and European pedo rings show you?

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What are you referring to, Jimmy Savile? Dutroux? They both trafficked children to elite and prominent people in Europe from what I DO know. But what relevance does it bring to Epstein anyway?

Does that somehow equate to Epstein and his network having zero intelligence/government ties?

I don't understand what your point is here...

I beginning to think that if you drew a Venn diagram of Epstein being a spook believers, 9/11 truthers, and Qanon true believers, you'd have one circle...

Ag with kids said:

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I beginning to think that if you drew a Venn diagram of Epstein being a spook believers, 9/11 truthers, and Qanon true believers, you'd have one circle...

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E-anon.

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So where is the grocery store?

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Can you point to where I said grocery store? Some other chap asked about grocery shopping, I made a quip about it, now I supposedly own the grocery store comment?

Gig em G said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Actual facts and evidence. Not coincidences and supposition.

There is hardly convincing evidence Epstein was at the center of some global Mossad pedo honeypot operation.

It falls much more in the category of feeding underage girls and their unborn children to alligators in Lake Michigan.

What did your research on UK and European pedo rings show you?

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What are you referring to, Jimmy Savile? Dutroux? They both trafficked children to elite and prominent people in Europe from what I DO know. But what relevance does it bring to Epstein anyway?

Does that somehow equate to Epstein and his network having zero intelligence/government ties?

I don't understand what your point is here...

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About the same, actually more relevant than Franklin Credit Union for gods sake. Not sure why it took so long for you to understand that point.

How exactly did King associate with Epstein?

When you conflate random crap from the 1980s to support a crackpot theory about Epstein being 007 you fail to support a serious discussion about what Epstein was really up to and who he is involved with.

flown-the-coop said:

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Gig em G said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Actual facts and evidence. Not coincidences and supposition.

There is hardly convincing evidence Epstein was at the center of some global Mossad pedo honeypot operation.

It falls much more in the category of feeding underage girls and their unborn children to alligators in Lake Michigan.

What did your research on UK and European pedo rings show you?

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What are you referring to, Jimmy Savile? Dutroux? They both trafficked children to elite and prominent people in Europe from what I DO know. But what relevance does it bring to Epstein anyway?

Does that somehow equate to Epstein and his network having zero intelligence/government ties?

I don't understand what your point is here...

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About the same, actually more relevant than Franklin Credit Union for gods sake. Not sure why it took so long for you to understand that point.

How exactly did King associate with Epstein?

When you conflate random crap from the 1980s to support a crackpot theory about Epstein being 007 you fail to support a serious discussion about what Epstein was really up to and who he is involved with.

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I used Lawrence King as another example of an earlier organizer of a nationwide child prostitution ring, pandering to the rich and powerful, employed blackmail... and had ties to US Intelligence, all according to victim testimonies. With the help of lobbyist Craig Spence. Decade at least before Epstein had his honeypot operation. I've also said nothing about "Epstein being 007" or whatever you keep repeating. But I can give some more info on what he was up to and involved in...again, even though it's been stated many times...

But damn, is this seriously the hill you want to die on?

One of the victims served time for perjury. If you want to attach that case along Epstein, as I said in my first or second response the Franklin Credit Union comparison, it does more to undermine the conspiracy of a coverup than it does to support it.

People should be presented with the information. You said supported by victims testimonies but leave out one of the main ones was convicted of multiple counts of perjury. And yes I am aware she did a podcast saying she was manipulated and forced and this or that.

I am for more information, not less.

And it can be quite dangerous to let conspiracy theories run wild. The 'Satanic panic' of the 1980's ruined countless lives and set investigation, prosecution and punishment of child sex offenders back decades due to the thousands upon thousands of unsubstantiated often disproven allegations.

So a word of caution in hunting under every rock for grand Epstein conspiracies. Some may turn out to be very legit, others will turn out to be figments of imaginations.