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Governor Newsom threatens to gerrymandering the state in respnse. I heard 40% of the people voted Republican, going to be hard to eliminate those remaining 3.
The Democratic Party leadership is unethical, amoral, dishonest and dishonorable. Anyone considering voting for any Democratic candidate should immediately reconsider their voting intentions.

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I welcome Newsome to make it 52-0. That will force more Red States to act. And we will win the tit for tat.

It's already been demonstrated - the Democrats have VERY little left to Gerrymander.

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He's says only the AG can bring, not the Governor.

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Ok, well then get off your a** and do it! Not like he can't work remotely during his vacation. I am no fan of Cornyn, but it is a bad look for Paxton to appear to be delaying doing anything until he gets back from a leisure trip.

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There's got to be a story behind this. I'll be curious to see if we ever find out.

I think it's funny than Abbott and Paxton aren't aligned with who can do what.

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Ag with kids said:

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samurai_science said:

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TX
56% voted Republican in 2024
66% of Congressman are Republicans


CA
58.5% voted Democrat in 2024
82.6% of Congressman are Democrats

NY
56% voted Democrat in 2024
73% of Congressman are Democrats

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Go look at IL...or MD...or MA...

I'm tired of the left claiming OPPRESSION when they have many more states that have employed these tactics...

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I don't think the problem people are having is with gerrymandering, but rather doing it now instead of every ten years like is normally done.

And Republicans have walked out to defeat quorum before. All politicians are huge hypocrites, both sides.

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I call 100,000% BULL*****!!!

The last redistricting that occurred in NY was in 2024...

And I see the "talking points" about "doing it after the census" are now out...

Since you're the 3rd poster I've seen make that kind of statement...

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Talk about bull****…
The reason NY redistricted in 2024 was because they started the process after the 2020 census, and it took three years to get a redistricting plan approved. But even then, a court ordered them to redraw it AGAIN in December 2023. You can read all about it here. https://redistricting.lls.edu/state/new-york/?cycle=2020&level=Congress&startdate=2024-02-28

If you're going to call bull**** in someone, it's best to have the facts on your side.

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These types have no use for facts.

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YOU should NEVER talk about having a use for facts...

I was correct in my statement - they did redistricting in 2024. I misunderstood WHY they had done it in 2024. Mea culpa.

BTW, what HTown didn't tell you was WHY the process took so long...the Dems attempt to gerrymander in 2020 was SO BLATANTLY BAD that it was ruled unconstitutional...Not sure why HTown left THAT fact out of his snarky response to me...

Following the 2020 census, the Democratic-controlled state legislature rejected the maps submitted by the IRC and instead enacted its own maps. Republican plaintiffs challenged those districts in state court, arguing that they were unconstitutional gerrymanders in violation of the 2014 amendment. In a 2022 decision, the New York State Court of Appeals agreed, striking down the state legislature's maps and holding that they were drawn with impermissible partisan intent.

Now, do you care about the fact that Democrats gerrymandered much worse than TX and have done so for years?

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I didn't leave anything out. If you couldn't figure out that the Democrats that were in charge, and have been in charge of the New York Assembly since before I was born, were sued and had to redraw it because a court said their blatant gerrymander was unconstitutional, that's not my fault. Because all the proof was there embedded in those links. I didn't think I'd have to include that it was because of Democrat gerrymandering, because I assumed that people that can rub two brain cells together and have a college degree would have an inkling of knowledge about when the last time the Democrats controlled the New York Assembly. I won't make that mistake next time.

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I think it's funny than Abbott and Paxton aren't aligned with who can do what.

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Paxton is just pissed that he isn't going to get his moment in the national spotlight because wheels did it first since Paxton wanted to wait until after his vacation.

Any dem come home yet?

What's the arrest count?

I heard that a few have come home. Don't know about any arrests.

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The men at the alamo didn't flee their duty, they stood and faced it like men, knowing they were outnumbered and would lose.

The difference between then and now is that the men of the Alamo weren't cowards.

— Idaho Country Doc (@idahocountrydoc) August 5, 2025

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OMG..... It's literally Colonel William Travis reincarnated!

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I'm kind of surprised that they even vaguely knew of the Alamo. Honest first reaction. Oh well.

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🚨 BREAKING: Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton launches investigation into BETO O'ROURKE's organization "for unlawful activity" and BRIBERY by financing state Democrat lawmakers' trip out of the state to block a redistricting vote.

Paxton is playing NO games. Wow.

"Any Democrat… pic.twitter.com/MHE4n7yHzu

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) August 6, 2025

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Yeah, I wondered about that when I saw a story that Beto's PAC was paying for the flights, lodging, etc.

Can a PAC legally do that? My first instinct is no, they cannot.

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I am still waiting for a single one of them to condemn their own party's massive gerrymandering in every state they can do it.

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I loathe gerrymandering period. Always have. I don't care what letter is behind your name. This, "but he did it," game is getting old between the parties. Someone needs to act like a grownup in the room.

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Tell your leftists to quit crying.

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I am still waiting for a single one of them to condemn their own party's massive gerrymandering in every state they can do it.

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I loathe gerrymandering period. Always have. I don't care what left is behind your name. This, "but he did it," game is getting old between the parties. Someone needs to act like a grownup in the room.

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Ok, so if politics is all about numbers, and our opponent has stacked the deck in their states to maximise their numbers in the US Congress, we are just supposed to "be the better man" and leave the deck unstacked in our own states? That is the pathway to permanent minority status in the Congress. If they are going to do it and it is deemed legal, then we should absolutely be doing it too. Doesn't matter if we would "rather not have to resort to that", because they have already done it and will bury us if we don't respond.

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Yes. Screw the Bush family mantra of compassionate conservatism.

Funny. All left leaning Mexicans avoid the Alamo and its history.

I am sure they could have gotten away with the PAC paying and call it a strategy session for democrats state reps. But… the idiots have tried to maximize their exposure and now are on all sorts of clips saying exactly why they left.

That makes the alternate excuse for the trip non-plausible.

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I am still waiting for a single one of them to condemn their own party's massive gerrymandering in every state they can do it.

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I loathe gerrymandering period. Always have. I don't care what letter is behind your name. This, "but he did it," game is getting old between the parties. Someone needs to act like a grownup in the room.

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Real convienent you want them to act like grownups AFTER your side gets the benefits of it.

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What part of I loathe all gerrymandering? Real convenient that you and other rightists continue to ignore what I actually write. Some of y'all ask for lib responses. You get one. And it's not what you expected. Grow up. FFS.

Tarlov brought up things about being off cycle gerrymandering and not the standard every 10 years. I seem to recall those Reddit talking points yesterday here.

And Ari Fleischer, permanent TDS sufferer, is buying in to the off cycle being totally out of line.

It's allowed, we doing it, the Dems have long done this, so they all need to STFU and get to work.

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I am still waiting for a single one of them to condemn their own party's massive gerrymandering in every state they can do it.

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I loathe gerrymandering period. Always have. I don't care what letter is behind your name. This, "but he did it," game is getting old between the parties. Someone needs to act like a grownup in the room.

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Real convienent you want them to act like grownups AFTER your side gets the benefits of it.

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What part of I loathe all gerrymandering? Real convenient that you and other rightists continue to ignore what I actually write. Some of y'all ask for lib responses. You get one. And it's not what you expected. Grow up. FFS.

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Our bad. We missed all those threads you started when California, Illinois, and New York did it.

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I am still waiting for a single one of them to condemn their own party's massive gerrymandering in every state they can do it.

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I loathe gerrymandering period. Always have. I don't care what letter is behind your name. This, "but he did it," game is getting old between the parties. Someone needs to act like a grownup in the room.

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Real convienent you want them to act like grownups AFTER your side gets the benefits of it.

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What part of I loathe all gerrymandering? Real convenient that you and other rightists continue to ignore what I actually write. Some of y'all ask for lib responses. You get one. And it's not what you expected. Grow up. FFS.

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I bet I won't find a single by you calling out your side in 2021.

I haven't been following this thread very closely and dont plan on reading through all the pages-

Is there an aternative to gerrymandering?

You are asking for a party who's last true elected person for the parties primary was Obama. Sanders was forced to step aside for Hilary and Biden was thrown out like trash for Kamala. TA-OP can not give an answer without saying the quiet part out loud.

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I haven't been following this thread very closely and dont plan on reading through all the pages-

Is there an aternative to gerrymandering?

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I would try as much as possible to draw congressional districts along existing county lines, with the D/FW metro area getting X representatives, the Houston area getting Y representatives, etc. But then people would just start gerrymandering county lines.

Wouldn't you still.have to draw lines within the counties?

richardag said:

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Governor Newsom threatens to gerrymandering the state in respnse. I heard 40% of the people voted Republican, going to be hard to eliminate those remaining 3.
The Democratic Party leadership is unethical, amoral, dishonest and dishonorable. Anyone considering voting for any Democratic candidate should immediately reconsider their voting intentions.

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It's actually illegal by CA state law to do this redistricting.

But, when has that bothered the left...

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Who?mikejones! said:

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I haven't been following this thread very closely and dont plan on reading through all the pages-

Is there an aternative to gerrymandering?

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I would try as much as possible to draw congressional districts along existing county lines, with the D/FW metro area getting X representatives, the Houston area getting Y representatives, etc. But then people would just start gerrymandering county lines.

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That's racist though

If it was all exact squares of different sizes containing identical numbers of citizens the D's would still cry racism.

Of course city, county, state and geographic boundaries don't typcially result in exact squares.

Anything that isn't the D's idea...they are going to cry racism.

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I heard that a few have come home. Don't know about any arrests.

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Abbott needs to hold the line. If he backs down, he'll look weak.

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Wouldn't you still.have to draw lines within the counties?

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There would certainly be gamesmanship involved there, I'm just saying I would use county lines as a starting point.

So, not reading through tons of pages of posts.....





....how many have been arrested and/or their spots been vacated?

Folks should do a little history learning on how districts were created, reapportionment, Congress ****ing this all up in 1929 causing a poor correction in the 1960s and as is similar to the border issue this plays well for both sides year in and year out.

You could go a very simple route of geographic districts by population. Districts have to be contiguous and certain percent of population must live within the geographic center of the district. And states may, at their discretion, allow for X% of at-large seats.

Constitutional, fair and needed. It also eliminates gerrymandering to a large extent.