texagbeliever said:
To piggyback, porn feeds a desire to be selfish. It is a completely selfish act. With that being the case there is no "healthy" or "better" way to consume it. AI or not.
infinity ag said:texagbeliever said:
To piggyback, porn feeds a desire to be selfish. It is a completely selfish act. With that being the case there is no "healthy" or "better" way to consume it. AI or not.
Just curious, why is it selfish?
If Steve is single, cannot or does not want to go get a date and uses AI, why is he selfish? He isn't bothering anyone and isn't doing anything illegal.
(assuming no kiddie stuff)
Martin Q. Blank said:
The average datacenter is 400 - 600 MW. This is what we're going to devote our electric demand on? Is the climate no longer changing?
amercer said:
The entire economy is being propped up by the AI bubble.
These guys need to start making money somehow before it pops.
HoustonAg2106 said:Teslag said:
On the plus if porn is AI then no one is being trafficked or exploited to make it
True, but you could also take a picture or normal video of a totally innocent person and create appropriate content of them without their consent
GE said:
10% have had an only fans account? Where did that come from? Seems astronomically high
Kenneth_2003 said:
The irony of OnlyFans success is that absent some viral moment to get you out there, the amount of marketing a girl has to do to build and maintain a following is the same as they'd have in ANY line of sales and marketing work.
I heard an interview several years ago with a former OnlyFans "star"/top earner. Not just the time shooting, editing,and posting content, but the interaction with the fans was constant.
We all know the classic line, the stripper only likes you when you're paying. Well the customer pays mostly for the conversation and interaction or custom content. She said she was making big money, but it was absolutely a full time job and ultimately unsustainable.
Funny thing is today she could use AI to handle the chats with her fans, and probably use AI to put customers name into a video rather than having to reshoot and edit for 5,10,15, or more custom requests.
HoustonAg2106 said:Teslag said:
On the plus if porn is AI then no one is being trafficked or exploited to make it
True, but you could also take a picture or normal video of a totally innocent person and create appropriate content of them without their consent
LMCane said:Kenneth_2003 said:
The irony of OnlyFans success is that absent some viral moment to get you out there, the amount of marketing a girl has to do to build and maintain a following is the same as they'd have in ANY line of sales and marketing work.
I heard an interview several years ago with a former OnlyFans "star"/top earner. Not just the time shooting, editing,and posting content, but the interaction with the fans was constant.
We all know the classic line, the stripper only likes you when you're paying. Well the customer pays mostly for the conversation and interaction or custom content. She said she was making big money, but it was absolutely a full time job and ultimately unsustainable.
Funny thing is today she could use AI to handle the chats with her fans, and probably use AI to put customers name into a video rather than having to reshoot and edit for 5,10,15, or more custom requests.
LOL I had lunch last monday with a former porn star from 2004-2005
(you can see who won the AVNs that year)
she was remarking that she could still pull $10,000 a month if she wanted to do OF and she can hire an assistant to handle the customer interaction.
and yes she is still cute- but 40 years old and looks and dresses like your next door neighbor.
Kenneth_2003 said:
The irony of OnlyFans success is that absent some viral moment to get you out there, the amount of marketing a girl has to do to build and maintain a following is the same as they'd have in ANY line of sales and marketing work.
I heard an interview several years ago with a former OnlyFans "star"/top earner. Not just the time shooting, editing,and posting content, but the interaction with the fans was constant.
We all know the classic line, the stripper only likes you when you're paying. Well the customer pays mostly for the conversation and interaction or custom content. She said she was making big money, but it was absolutely a full time job and ultimately unsustainable.
Funny thing is today she could use AI to handle the chats with her fans, and probably use AI to put customers name into a video rather than having to reshoot and edit for 5,10,15, or more custom requests.
texagbeliever said:infinity ag said:texagbeliever said:
To piggyback, porn feeds a desire to be selfish. It is a completely selfish act. With that being the case there is no "healthy" or "better" way to consume it. AI or not.
Just curious, why is it selfish?
If Steve is single, cannot or does not want to go get a date and uses AI, why is he selfish? He isn't bothering anyone and isn't doing anything illegal.
(assuming no kiddie stuff)
Your definition of selfish is dependent on the harm of others in the act. I think that is too narrow.
Porn is selfish because an individual only does it for their own gratification. It reinforces behavior of seeing other people as a means of self gratification.
Sex, done in the proper setting, is about providing gratification to a committed spouse. The goal being for both persons to come to orgasm at the same time for shared pleasure. It reinforces that working together well leads to high pleasure. Which is true in sex and also in life.
GeorgiAg said:Kenneth_2003 said:
The irony of OnlyFans success is that absent some viral moment to get you out there, the amount of marketing a girl has to do to build and maintain a following is the same as they'd have in ANY line of sales and marketing work.
I heard an interview several years ago with a former OnlyFans "star"/top earner. Not just the time shooting, editing,and posting content, but the interaction with the fans was constant.
We all know the classic line, the stripper only likes you when you're paying. Well the customer pays mostly for the conversation and interaction or custom content. She said she was making big money, but it was absolutely a full time job and ultimately unsustainable.
Funny thing is today she could use AI to handle the chats with her fans, and probably use AI to put customers name into a video rather than having to reshoot and edit for 5,10,15, or more custom requests.
"Oh yes, baby, it's been so nice talking to you too. Make sure to log on tomorrow."
Over_ed said:Teslag said:
On the plus if porn is AI then no one is being trafficked or exploited to make it
Exactly my point. 10% of women having accounts on OnlyFans is a lot of women, damaged in a lot of ways. If this removes the exploitation part, that is a net benefit. IMO.
I realize many here are very anti-porn, but the truth is porn has always been around. E.g., there was so much erotica art and "toys" discovered in reclaiming Pompeii, archeologists invented a new word.
Pornography.
Quote:Ancient Greek Root: The word is derived from the Greek words $\pi o \rho\nu\eta$ (porn), meaning "prostitute," and a (graph), meaning "I write" or "to draw." The compound word ooao (pornographos), meaning "writing/depicting prostitutes," appeared in ancient Greek literature (around the 3rd century CE). Modern Re-emergence: The word reappeared in French as pornographie in the late 18th/early 19th century, initially referring to a treatise on prostitution or public hygiene. Archaeological Connection to Modern Meaning: The term entered the English language around the mid-19th century and was often first used to describe the erotic art and murals being uncovered by archaeologists in the excavations of ancient Roman sites like Pompeii and Herculaneum. The shocking nature of these discoveries to the Victorian era led to the word quickly evolving from meaning simply "writing about prostitutes" to the more general sense of "obscene material in art and literature," which is closer to the modern understanding.
Martin Q. Blank said:texagbeliever said:infinity ag said:texagbeliever said:
To piggyback, porn feeds a desire to be selfish. It is a completely selfish act. With that being the case there is no "healthy" or "better" way to consume it. AI or not.
Just curious, why is it selfish?
If Steve is single, cannot or does not want to go get a date and uses AI, why is he selfish? He isn't bothering anyone and isn't doing anything illegal.
(assuming no kiddie stuff)
Your definition of selfish is dependent on the harm of others in the act. I think that is too narrow.
Porn is selfish because an individual only does it for their own gratification. It reinforces behavior of seeing other people as a means of self gratification.
Sex, done in the proper setting, is about providing gratification to a committed spouse. The goal being for both persons to come to orgasm at the same time for shared pleasure. It reinforces that working together well leads to high pleasure. Which is true in sex and also in life.
The goal is procreation.
Teslag said:
On the plus if porn is AI then no one is being trafficked or exploited to make it
Quote:
Women today are led to believe by the media that their self-worth exists only if they have a job and have a title. If you are a stay at home mom, you are worthless.
Teslag said:Quote:
Women today are led to believe by the media that their self-worth exists only if they have a job and have a title. If you are a stay at home mom, you are worthless.
I think you'd be surprised at how many men, even conservative men, believe this too. I'm one of them. I frankly would be disgusted with my wife if she chose to stay at home and give up her career.
GeorgiAg said:LMCane said:Kenneth_2003 said:
The irony of OnlyFans success is that absent some viral moment to get you out there, the amount of marketing a girl has to do to build and maintain a following is the same as they'd have in ANY line of sales and marketing work.
I heard an interview several years ago with a former OnlyFans "star"/top earner. Not just the time shooting, editing,and posting content, but the interaction with the fans was constant.
We all know the classic line, the stripper only likes you when you're paying. Well the customer pays mostly for the conversation and interaction or custom content. She said she was making big money, but it was absolutely a full time job and ultimately unsustainable.
Funny thing is today she could use AI to handle the chats with her fans, and probably use AI to put customers name into a video rather than having to reshoot and edit for 5,10,15, or more custom requests.
LOL I had lunch last monday with a former porn star from 2004-2005
(you can see who won the AVNs that year)
she was remarking that she could still pull $10,000 a month if she wanted to do OF and she can hire an assistant to handle the customer interaction.
and yes she is still cute- but 40 years old and looks and dresses like your next door neighbor.
You had lunch with Jenna? Did she get rid of those ridiculous implants?
A friend of mine wanted to know....
Also, who is "Jenna?" Again, I have no idea, my friend, uh, Bob, wants to know.
Kenneth_2003 said:Over_ed said:Teslag said:
On the plus if porn is AI then no one is being trafficked or exploited to make it
Exactly my point. 10% of women having accounts on OnlyFans is a lot of women, damaged in a lot of ways. If this removes the exploitation part, that is a net benefit. IMO.
I realize many here are very anti-porn, but the truth is porn has always been around. E.g., there was so much erotica art and "toys" discovered in reclaiming Pompeii, archeologists invented a new word.
Pornography.
Hasn't erotica, pornography, and/or general debauchery been a common trait amongst numerous late stage societies throughout history?
I'm obviously not ascribing that to the demise of Pompei but it was by all recorded accounts a very advanced society for it's time.
AgBQ-00 said:
So you are saying her worth is tied to what she produces in a corporate world for people who do not care for her or you or your family. And you'd rather hand off the raising of your children to strangers that you pay with the money she earns and lose all of the truly meaningful things in life. It is ok to admit your world view is distorted and perverted. I pity you and her. Your entire worth is tied to the temporal and the economic. THAT is truly pathetic and disgusting
Teslag said:
Because she's worked her ass off to get where she is and what she's earned. To see her give that up to stay and home and be nothing would show an extreme lack of ambition and character. Anyone can be a stay at home mom, there's nothing particularly noteworthy about it.
— 🇺🇸 🧯 (@LibertasRedux) October 16, 2025
Teslag said:AgBQ-00 said:
So you are saying her worth is tied to what she produces in a corporate world for people who do not care for her or you or your family. And you'd rather hand off the raising of your children to strangers that you pay with the money she earns and lose all of the truly meaningful things in life. It is ok to admit your world view is distorted and perverted. I pity you and her. Your entire worth is tied to the temporal and the economic. THAT is truly pathetic and disgusting
Her worth is tied to drive and ambition. It doesn't necessarily have to be corporate, or even financial. But it should be something that takes advantage of her skillset, talent, and intelligence. If she were a cashier at a retail store I'd have just such disdain for her as being a stay at home mom.
titan said:Teslag said:AgBQ-00 said:
So you are saying her worth is tied to what she produces in a corporate world for people who do not care for her or you or your family. And you'd rather hand off the raising of your children to strangers that you pay with the money she earns and lose all of the truly meaningful things in life. It is ok to admit your world view is distorted and perverted. I pity you and her. Your entire worth is tied to the temporal and the economic. THAT is truly pathetic and disgusting
Her worth is tied to drive and ambition. It doesn't necessarily have to be corporate, or even financial. But it should be something that takes advantage of her skillset, talent, and intelligence. If she were a cashier at a retail store I'd have just such disdain for her as being a stay at home mom.
Do you realize that makes your position worse, not better?
texagbeliever said:titan said:Teslag said:AgBQ-00 said:
So you are saying her worth is tied to what she produces in a corporate world for people who do not care for her or you or your family. And you'd rather hand off the raising of your children to strangers that you pay with the money she earns and lose all of the truly meaningful things in life. It is ok to admit your world view is distorted and perverted. I pity you and her. Your entire worth is tied to the temporal and the economic. THAT is truly pathetic and disgusting
Her worth is tied to drive and ambition. It doesn't necessarily have to be corporate, or even financial. But it should be something that takes advantage of her skillset, talent, and intelligence. If she were a cashier at a retail store I'd have just such disdain for her as being a stay at home mom.
Do you realize that makes your position worse, not better?
That post is the definition of selfish. My wife needs to be someone that makes me look good. Zero percent chance he doesnt get a divorce with that mindset. Id hate to be so beholden to how other people see me.
Teslag said:texagbeliever said:titan said:Teslag said:AgBQ-00 said:
So you are saying her worth is tied to what she produces in a corporate world for people who do not care for her or you or your family. And you'd rather hand off the raising of your children to strangers that you pay with the money she earns and lose all of the truly meaningful things in life. It is ok to admit your world view is distorted and perverted. I pity you and her. Your entire worth is tied to the temporal and the economic. THAT is truly pathetic and disgusting
Her worth is tied to drive and ambition. It doesn't necessarily have to be corporate, or even financial. But it should be something that takes advantage of her skillset, talent, and intelligence. If she were a cashier at a retail store I'd have just such disdain for her as being a stay at home mom.
Do you realize that makes your position worse, not better?
That post is the definition of selfish. My wife needs to be someone that makes me look good. Zero percent chance he doesnt get a divorce with that mindset. Id hate to be so beholden to how other people see me.
Been married over 20 years. It works because she has the same mindset. Many of our friends do as well and we routinely punch down on the stay at home moms we know. And often many don't make their husbands look good. Most stay at home moms I know are frumpy, dress like librarians, are fat, and don't take care of themselves.
