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Getting into wars is easy, finding the exit strategy is always the most expensive part of waring.

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Like in Grenada and Panama.

Womp Womp..

Q: "Was there a 'kill all' order from Secretary Hegseth?"

.@SenTomCotton: "No. Admiral Bradley was very clear that he was given no such order to, to give no quarter or kill them all." pic.twitter.com/ZqLPkCyHSd

— CSPAN (@cspan) December 4, 2025

Big ol Womp Womp.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5634120-navy-adm-denies-hegseth-kill-order/

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"Admiral Bradley was very clear that he was given no such order, not to give no quarter or to kill them all. He was given an order that, of course, was written down in great detail, as our military always does," Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), the chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, told reporters after the Thursday closed-door, classified briefing with Bradley and the Joint Chiefs of Staff chair, Gen. Dan Caine.

Rep. Jim Himes (Conn.), the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, gave the same account of Bradley's testimony.

"The admiral confirmed that there had not been a 'kill them all' order, and that there was not an order to 'grant no quarter,'" Himes said on Thursday.

Still, Himes said that he was "deeply" troubled by the Defense Department's attack on Sept. 2, in which the U.S. military conducted four strikes, killing 11 and sinking the boat.

"I reviewed the video, and it's deeply, deeply troubling," Himes said. "The fact is that we killed two people who were in deep distress and had neither the means nor obviously the intent to continue their mission."

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flown-the-coop said:

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Big ol Womp Womp.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5634120-navy-adm-denies-hegseth-kill-order/

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"Admiral Bradley was very clear that he was given no such order, not to give no quarter or to kill them all. He was given an order that, of course, was written down in great detail, as our military always does," Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), the chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, told reporters after the Thursday closed-door, classified briefing with Bradley and the Joint Chiefs of Staff chair, Gen. Dan Caine.

Rep. Jim Himes (Conn.), the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, gave the same account of Bradley's testimony.

"The admiral confirmed that there had not been a 'kill them all' order, and that there was not an order to 'grant no quarter,'" Himes said on Thursday.

Still, Himes said that he was "deeply" troubled by the Defense Department's attack on Sept. 2, in which the U.S. military conducted four strikes, killing 11 and sinking the boat.

"I reviewed the video, and it's deeply, deeply troubling," Himes said. "The fact is that we killed two people who were in deep distress and had neither the means nor obviously the intent to continue their mission."

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IMHO, the above validates the story circulated by the leftist progressives in the Democratic Party leadership was a lie. Need to find out who lied and charge with libel or slander.

That's going to be a very long list.

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All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…

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WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.

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This isn't a case of a double tap. It is two different arial strikes.

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WGAS? Shoot em 12 times if that's what it takes.

You haven't explained why you support terrorists.

No libs cared when chairman BO drone struck US citizens and civilians abroad.

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I don't support terrorists. I do support that our military has rules of engagement on how you conduct missions. Hegseth does not operate this way. He is so incredibly war hungry and underqualified for the position he holds. Listen to him try and explain things afterwards. He sounds like a child lying when they are caught by their parents.

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Either you're lying or hoping for some lib internet points because you are supporting terrorists with your comments. Or maybe worse, I don't know. I'll leave that to Kash to figure out what you're up to.

The rules of engagement were followed in all of these situations, enemy combatants are to be engaged until the threat is neutralized.

+1

BREAKING: The US just blew up a drug boat in the Pacific, kiIIing 4 traffickers pic.twitter.com/bIJT3qGSlF

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) December 4, 2025

Love it!

You mean +4!

I support this!

Pwn3d!!!1

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jesse, a former marine, gets it.

I laugh when I hear rules of war from these types. pic.twitter.com/ZGjV6C5av2

— Jesse Kelly Show (@JesseKellyShow) December 3, 2025

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He is right. You don't even have to be losing. We dropped the rules of submarine warfare first. Churchill did the same. Not the Axis. So actually rules in warfare are kind of silly -- the most effective ones are ones that try to make some provision for PoWs once captured and actually in a camp. Those have slowly but surely improved. But even there any gains were lost once war involved Islamists, as you have seen they have regressed to levels in Hamas that would have daunted (but not frightened) Rome.

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And because of that, Nimitz provided an letter to the Nuremburg tribunal that prevented Admiral Donitz from being punished for conducting unrestricted submarine warfare because the US committed the same breach from the day we entered the war with Japan.

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Titan…Rapier please see Peleus trial.

No one is saying that unrestricted submarine warfare is bad…but none of our guys went back up and started shooting at survivors floating in a life raft.

The major example during the war, Peleus, we took to trial and executed the Captain.

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You should be ashamed. This woke garbage harms the US military.

Was the Peleus running drugs???

Abby Phillip: “They tried to turn over the boat that was still floating perhaps to survive and then they were bombed again. How is that an attempt to get back into the fight?”

Joe Borelli: “So, I don't know. And let me just start by saying I don't care, not one bit, genuinely… pic.twitter.com/SY1k1kLewi

— RedWave Press (@RedWave_Press) December 5, 2025

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Abby Phillip: “They tried to turn over the boat that was still floating perhaps to survive and then they were bombed again. How is that an attempt to get back into the fight?”

Joe Borelli: “So, I don't know. And let me just start by saying I don't care, not one bit, genuinely… pic.twitter.com/SY1k1kLewi

— RedWave Press (@RedWave_Press) December 5, 2025

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Wanted to give this post another Blue Star. Spot on.

I don't have sympathy for drug dealers and traffickers but this whole deal does have a lot of plot holes in it.

Illegal drugs is a huge industry domestic and abroad but you don't see it legalized policy for example to kill without due process anyone dealing drugs in Houston, Texas.

But abroad the rule book is arbitrarily changed. This currently seems pretty focused to just one region in the Carribean (Venezuela originated) not the Pacific as well and all the other source countries. Which of course leads to cynical thoughts this is primarily just politics to force regime change in Venezuela (Maduro is awful so don't disagree with the pressure) rather than a true attempt at any comprehensive strategy to make a notable dent in the illegal drug trade. And as soon as political goals in Venezuela are achieved, thoughts are you'll see the military and administration lose interest in this and illegal drug business will carry on as it has for decades.

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Which of course leads to cynical thoughts this is really just politics to force regime change in Venezuela (Maduro is awful so don't disagree with the pressure) rather than a comprehensive strategy making any notable dent in the illegal drug trade.

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I don't think it's cynical because that's exactly what's happening. Trump Admin has already said they want regime change and have told Maduro to leave. So blowing up these boats is clearly about pressuring Maduro.

I think we should look at this as the opening salvo of Trumps broader strategic pivot to the Western Hemisphere. Maduro is the worst of the bad actors in this hemisphere so he's tackling him first.

I think everyone keeps forgetting that the latest five year DOW Strategy Document specifically has us focusing on the Western Hemisphere now. So we have an entirely new focus for first time in decades with our defense strategy.

If they want to crow about stopping some illicit drugs while they are at it then that's a bonus.

Some good points and I agree it's about the regime. There have been strikes in the Pacific though. I believe 7-8 out of the roughly 19-20 overall.

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I don't have sympathy for drug dealers and traffickers but this whole deal does have a lot of plot holes in it.

Illegal drugs is a huge industry domestic and abroad but you don't see it legalized policy for example to kill without due process anyone dealing drugs in Houston, Texas.

But abroad the rule book is arbitrarily changed. This currently seems pretty focused to just one region in the Carribean (Venezuela originated) not the Pacific as well and all the other source countries. Which of course leads to cynical thoughts this is primarily just politics to force regime change in Venezuela (Maduro is awful so don't disagree with the pressure) rather than a true attempt at any comprehensive strategy to make a notable dent in the illegal drug trade. And as soon as political goals in Venezuela are achieved, thoughts are you'll see the military and administration lose interest in this and illegal drug business will carry on as it has for decades.

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Don't get gaslit people. Trump's administration has eyes on Mexican cartels.

https://www.wired.com/story/trump-executive-order-mexico-drug-cartels-terrorist-organizations/

The left and President Scheinbaum have been pissing and moaning about this since Trump took office.

Evidently we quickly moved into the "Well, Trump is trying to do a good thing but it won't last so what's the point."

Some folks can NEVER, EVER get their head to a point where they can just say "Trump is doing good here for Americans and our future and I am glad he is doing it."

This happens when they have failed in their "Hegseth is lose cannon" to "Hegseth committed war crimes" to Hegseth had to leave the room for more whiskey"… this is after the "we cannot blow up fisherman" to "well, they used to be fisherman until the cartel made them drive faster" to "did the boats even have drugs" to "muh narco terrorists survivors".

Their game is a long, sad, endless one. Show pity on their lost souls.

I cannot imagine Americans who are America last in everything they stand for.

Really tells you they have their own personal agenda and don't care about the greater good. Sad.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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I cannot imagine Americans who are America last in everything they stand for.

Really tells you they have their own personal agenda and don't care about the greater good. Sad.

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Not a single liberal (that doesn't directly benefit from the drug trade or is a drug addict) would complain about Chicago Jesus doing the exact same thing. They're hypocrisy knows no bounds!

BREAKING: Coast Guard helicopter sniper takes out narco-boat in the Eastern Pacific in footage obtained by Fox News.

The Coast Guard seized over 20,000 pounds of cocaine during the mission, which amounts to more than 7.5M potentially lethal doses, according to the outlet.

"The… pic.twitter.com/kvtbk49NWp

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) December 6, 2025

Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act of 1986

will25u said:

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BREAKING: Coast Guard helicopter sniper takes out narco-boat in the Eastern Pacific in footage obtained by Fox News.

The Coast Guard seized over 20,000 pounds of cocaine during the mission, which amounts to more than 7.5M potentially lethal doses, according to the outlet.

"The… pic.twitter.com/kvtbk49NWp

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) December 6, 2025

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"sniper"?

He missed their heads.

CNN (which is very fake news and should be treated as such) managed to drag Yellow Cake Flake out of retirement to chat about deadly use of force ("war crimes") by Obama/Trump. LOL, hilarity ensued.

Was today years old when I learned that Obama was routinely called a war criminal 🙄 https://t.co/zuflTu8zKD

— Scott Jennings (@ScottJenningsKY) December 9, 2025

NEW: The far-left ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) is suing the Trump administration, demanding the State, Justice, and War Departments provide legal justification for taking out narco boats attempting to poison Americans.

Gillian Turner: “By claiming these attacks are… pic.twitter.com/Fj1pGdh60z

— RedWave Press (@RedWave_Press) December 9, 2025

I was confused by the quote apparently attributed to Gillian Turner, a Fox News host. The quote from the X post is her reading a statement from Ify Chikezie of the NYCLU.

Threw me for a minute.

Libs and their little orgs all about defending narco terrorists.

US forces have intercepted and seized a sanctioned oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, a move that marks a serious escalation of tensions between the two countries https://t.co/6S6V6J0tEL

— Bloomberg (@business) December 10, 2025

The US seized an oil tanker just off Venezuela (Bloomberg is reporting), and this.

Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado secretly left the country via boat on Tuesday, traveling to the Dutch island nation of Curaçao in the Southern Caribbean, U.S. officials said, in an effort to reach Norway and collect her Nobel Peace Prize, with her reportedly… pic.twitter.com/6Bbq6aw2Od

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) December 10, 2025

A lot of coordination happening, and it does seem like things are picking up finally.

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Which of course leads to cynical thoughts this is really just politics to force regime change in Venezuela (Maduro is awful so don't disagree with the pressure) rather than a comprehensive strategy making any notable dent in the illegal drug trade.

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I don't think it's cynical because that's exactly what's happening. Trump Admin has already said they want regime change and have told Maduro to leave. So blowing up these boats is clearly about pressuring Maduro.

I think we should look at this as the opening salvo of Trumps broader strategic pivot to the Western Hemisphere. Maduro is the worst of the bad actors in this hemisphere so he's tackling him first.

I think everyone keeps forgetting that the latest five year DOW Strategy Document specifically has us focusing on the Western Hemisphere now. So we have an entirely new focus for first time in decades with our defense strategy.

If they want to crow about stopping some illicit drugs while they are at it then that's a bonus.

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On the Adam Carolla podcast a few weeks ago, Patrick Byrne (who is a bit of a tin-foil hat wearing nut) alluded to the fact that the core of the Venezuela situation is Smartmatic and voting machines, as it is often believed that Venezuela was the start of massive voter fraud and machine tampering.

I thought it was the dominion servers the CIA had in Germany.

I think the commonality of this he voting systems is indication that corrupt governments like corrupt voting machines so outcomes can be fabricated.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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I cannot imagine Americans who are America last in everything they stand for.

Really tells you they have their own personal agenda and don't care about the greater good. Sad.

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in other words....

communists

who we have been battling since 1917

flown-the-coop said:

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I thought it was the dominion servers the CIA had in Germany.

I think the commonality of this he voting systems is indication that corrupt governments like corrupt voting machines so outcomes can be fabricated.

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Smartmatic maintained IP ownership of the software, through the Sequoia and Dominion acquisitions/mergers, and it wasn't German servers, but rather Serbian ones. This is actually fairly well documented at this point.

🚨 BREAKING: President Trump just announced the United States has SEIZED a tanker ship off the coast of Venezuela

“It’s the largest one ever seized… and now other things are happening.”

👀 pic.twitter.com/Alp2wNYk4v

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) December 10, 2025

But what does he mean "other things are happening"? Is he moving on to genocide of S America via nuclear weapons?!? -MS NOW Anchors right now, probably.