How can I make 900k a year?

YouBet said:

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titan said:

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StandUpforAmerica said:

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I work in Tech, and we are under constant rolling layoffs at this point. LinkedIn is littered with 'Open to Work' in all sectors of tech. My company specifically is targeting people 45-50+... many with 20-30 years experience with the company. They've decided that layoffs are cheaper than early retirement packages. These jobs aren't going away, but they are getting moved to Taiwan and India.

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Bold -- very, very bad idea. Italics --- not much better.

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Yeah, that's short sighted as hell and an absurd strategic blunder. Wow.

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It is the result of a company too afraid to look past the next quarterly results.

StandUpforAmerica said:

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YouBet said:

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titan said:

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StandUpforAmerica said:

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I work in Tech, and we are under constant rolling layoffs at this point. LinkedIn is littered with 'Open to Work' in all sectors of tech. My company specifically is targeting people 45-50+... many with 20-30 years experience with the company. They've decided that layoffs are cheaper than early retirement packages. These jobs aren't going away, but they are getting moved to Taiwan and India.

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Bold -- very, very bad idea. Italics --- not much better.

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Yeah, that's short sighted as hell and an absurd strategic blunder. Wow.

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It is the result of a company too afraid to look past the next quarterly results.

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Yes, I was going to edit and add this but you beat me to it. Doing this tells you they actually have no strategy.

Jason_Roofer said:

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Let me guess…..prior service … and/or 20-40 years old?


I think, and this is probably going to ruffle feathers, people don't want to work. I've hired dozens of young guys over the years that have potential to make 200-900k a year if they just do the work….and they quit. Because it's hard. They have to get out early. They have to work past dark. They have to be UNCOMFORTABLE for a while and pay their dues to learn the job.

If you are currently seeing people out of work, it's because they aren't willing to do what it takes to work. Simple as that.

You don't have to be MF Barnes, you just need to try a little.

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What industry? Based on your username, I'm guessing roofing?

I don't know anyone who is out of work, looking for work, or has been laid off in the past many, many years. I did know a young gal who quit her job (really successful company but the owners are drunks and quit paying her so she quit) but found another job. Most of the people I associate with that are not retired are working a ton of overtime. All blue collar work, but $40 to $60 an hour jobs. Many are working 13 on and 1 off, others working 15 or 20 days in a row and then a day off.

TefIon Don said:

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How can I make 900k a year?

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Travel, sell commercial. Or a few hundred higher end residential. It's a whole other level of sales. Those guys schedules rival rock star schedules. Texas for a month, Washington for a few weeks, back to Texas, Oklahoma, Montana, Colorado. It's not for those who want to be with their families all year. If a storm pops up in Dallas tonight, those guys are on a flight by midnight to hit it at first light. Some of them don't even own houses. Just big travel trailers and run all over the place

We also have guys that kinda chill and maybe pull 50k a year. Maybe less, could be a side gig for them, or their spouse works full time. But they aren't without work. They can make as much or little as they decide for themselves is acceptable.

Sales/commission only jobs do very well. I'm also speaking with the experience of watching a parent insist on sticking to their historical industry and watching them lose everything because they didn't want to do something different. They lost their job decades ago and now have nothing but debt and SS as their only income. Every time I feel like getting lazy, I think about that and scare myself into doing something.

And to be clear, I'm not harping on people that got laid off a few months ago and can't find work, I'm talking about those who havnt worked in 1+ years.

MyNameIsJeff said:

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Athanasius said:

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than I ever have before. It's staggering.

And the ones getting jobs are taking massive pay cuts.

I think we are in for a very bad few years.

Who's bullish? Why?

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What industry? I can't personally think of anyone I know that is out of work.

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I'm in upstream O&G and know a TON who have been laid off.

I'm going to protect the innocent but another industry like this (or at least this company) is pest control. I have a very good friend who is high up at one of these and she is floored how absurd the money is.

Their sales people cold calling homes are making mid 6 figures per year and some of them are actually pushing 7 figures. It's like your industry in that they are working their asses off hitting the pavement all day but holy cow the money is insane.

YouBet said:

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I'm going to protect the innocent but another industry like this (or at least this company) is pest control. I have a very good friend who is high up at one of these and she is floored how absurd the money is.

Their sales people cold calling homes are making mid 6 figures per year and some of them are actually pushing 7 figures. It's like your industry in that they are working their asses off hitting the pavement all day but holy cow the money is insane.

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I ended up in it because I spent 1 year unemployed as an experienced project manager in an oil and gas company and then got a contract gig and then the company went bankrupt, and all of us contractors got canned. I got a real estate license and sold some real estate for a while and then got into roofing to make ends meet while I did real estate and found out I really liked it. I am not a sales guy in my opinion and have never done the high volume high pressure thing. I just … do my thing…and it works out. What I like most is that my income isn't capped. So, when the kids were young, I did stuff close buy, now they are older so I branch out, and I can do that as long as I want. I don't have to retire. That sounds sucky but I do enjoy the whole process and working with folks. I won't sugar coat it, going from a nicely titled oil professional to a dirty roofer was a kick in the balls but at the end of the day, my job was to put food on the table and that's what I did.

To your point about pest control, nothing gets people to bust a move like finding a termite in their siding or a mouse in their kitchen. Same with roofing, when you need it, you need it and there isn't really a way around it. Someone has to be contracted to do the work.

Artimus Gordon said:

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This is Hillary's big reset. Btw the Texas economy is exploding. You can't even get out on the highway without the risk of getting run over by an 18 wheeler!

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Or illegals driving all over the road

I'm retired so I don't really have my finger on the pulse. I live in suburban Phoenix and the amount of cranes I'm seeing is insane. At lunch today I was talking to 2 brothers that are welders. The oldest was 31 and told me which neighborhood he lives in and the one he's moving to. He's been in a neighborhood with $1MM entry point since he was 25 and is moving to one that's near $1.5MM entry point. It's out there for hard workers. It might not br what everyone wants to do or want your son to do but there are opportunities.

ntxVol said:

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I work in an industry that's mostly recession proof, no real worries here.

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Mortuary?

jja79 said:

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I'm retired so I don't really have my finger on the pulse. I live in suburban Phoenix and the amount of cranes I'm seeing is insane. At lunch today I was talking to 2 brothers that are welders. The oldest was 31 and told me which neighborhood he lives in and the one he's moving to. He's been in a neighborhood with $1MM entry point since he was 25 and is moving to one that's near $1.5MM entry point. It's out there for hard workers. It might not br what everyone wants to do or want your son to do but there are opportunities.

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I get that there are trade jobs. You know what will happen when American companies send all their jobs overseas? Empty offices that won't need an HVAC repair. No more construction that needs welders.

A large college educated population, with increasing unemployment is a disaster in the making. It will give rise to populists and commies like we are seeing in NYC.

It was a hard 4 years under Biden, and so far, its getting worse under Trump.

StandUpforAmerica said:

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YouBet said:

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titan said:

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StandUpforAmerica said:

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I work in Tech, and we are under constant rolling layoffs at this point. LinkedIn is littered with 'Open to Work' in all sectors of tech. My company specifically is targeting people 45-50+... many with 20-30 years experience with the company. They've decided that layoffs are cheaper than early retirement packages. These jobs aren't going away, but they are getting moved to Taiwan and India.

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Bold -- very, very bad idea. Italics --- not much better.

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Yeah, that's short sighted as hell and an absurd strategic blunder. Wow.

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It is the result of a company too afraid to look past the next quarterly results.

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This is a lot of corporate america now. Mediocre executives that don't have any new ideas other than "AI" are moving jobs overseas in the hope of a few more years to pad their retirement accounts .

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He's right thought. There are several industries where layoffs just aren't happening.

Like I said I'm retired so maybe I'm just out of touch. Where I am there seem to be ample jobs. Young people are moving up and buying bigger houses. The restaurants are full. You go to the shopping areas and you can hardly find a parking spot.

In my experience (45 years) about 80% of management people are unnecessary. They justify their jobs by the amount of time they take productive people away from producing by holding worthless meetings to discuss things they couldn't do on their best day.

For the young people in my family I've recommended a career in:
-medical
-municipal
-education
-utilities

These should be recession-proof for the most part. At certain levels one can also make a decent living. I'll add I don't know anyone personally who is out of work either.

I wonder if any of these folks looking were of the group insisting/demanding the WFH setup coming out of the Covid-mania. This 'luxury' could have possibly led to outsourcing more of these tech jibs, no? Don't have a clue but curious.

jja79 said:

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Like I said I'm retired so maybe I'm just out of touch. Where I am there seem to be ample jobs. Young people are moving up and buying bigger houses. The restaurants are full. You go to the shopping areas and you can hardly find a parking spot.

In my experience (45 years) about 80% of management people are unnecessary. They justify their jobs by the amount of time they take productive people away from producing by holding worthless meetings to discuss things they couldn't do on their best day.

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I'm sure there are segments of the workforce that are not doing well, but you can bet your ___ the DNC/media will blow it out of proportion from now till the midterms.

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jja79 said:

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I'm retired so I don't really have my finger on the pulse. I live in suburban Phoenix and the amount of cranes I'm seeing is insane. At lunch today I was talking to 2 brothers that are welders. The oldest was 31 and told me which neighborhood he lives in and the one he's moving to. He's been in a neighborhood with $1MM entry point since he was 25 and is moving to one that's near $1.5MM entry point. It's out there for hard workers. It might not br what everyone wants to do or want your son to do but there are opportunities.

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I get that there are trade jobs. You know what will happen when American companies send all their jobs overseas? Empty offices that won't need an HVAC repair. No more construction that needs welders.

A large college educated population, with increasing unemployment is a disaster in the making. It will give rise to populists and commies like we are seeing in NYC.

It was a hard 4 years under Biden, and so far, its getting worse under Trump.

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lol what nonsense. American companies will not send "all" their jobs overseas. Haven't yet, won't ever. There are more needs for HVAC than office buildings assuming all offices are empty, which won't be the case. There are many welding jobs other than construction.

The OP is carrying their water.

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deddog said:

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jja79 said:

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I'm retired so I don't really have my finger on the pulse. I live in suburban Phoenix and the amount of cranes I'm seeing is insane. At lunch today I was talking to 2 brothers that are welders. The oldest was 31 and told me which neighborhood he lives in and the one he's moving to. He's been in a neighborhood with $1MM entry point since he was 25 and is moving to one that's near $1.5MM entry point. It's out there for hard workers. It might not br what everyone wants to do or want your son to do but there are opportunities.

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I get that there are trade jobs. You know what will happen when American companies send all their jobs overseas? Empty offices that won't need an HVAC repair. No more construction that needs welders.

A large college educated population, with increasing unemployment is a disaster in the making. It will give rise to populists and commies like we are seeing in NYC.

It was a hard 4 years under Biden, and so far, its getting worse under Trump.

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lol what nonsense. American companies will not send "all" their jobs overseas. Haven't yet, won't ever. There are more needs for HVAC than office buildings assuming all offices are empty, which won't be the case. There are many welding jobs other than construction.

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Congrats?
We didn't send every job overseas?

Sure feels like that way right now.looking for jobs and kids looking for internships , majority in Tech is overseas. We lost 4 years under Biden where they did nothing other than have media and government fake the number of jobs. It's early, so far things not looking better. Nothings fundamentally changed that would make it better.

I must live in the only place that's booming because I see it differently.

Bitter much?

Congrats!

Goodbye unemployment, found a job pic.twitter.com/DMtGS6zzIl

— Duke Delarosa (@sketchy_cactus) November 6, 2025

Sign me up!!!

What did I say that's bitter? Things are great where I live. Sorry they're so bad where you folks are.

jja79 said:

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What did I say that's bitter? Things are great where I live. Sorry they're so bad where you folks are.

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Same, though all of my friends and family either work for the government (state and federal) or in Healthcare (doctors and nurses). No complaints all around.

No Spin Ag said:

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jja79 said:

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What did I say that's bitter? Things are great where I live. Sorry they're so bad where you folks are.

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Same, though all of my friends and family either work for the government (state and federal) or in Healthcare (doctors and nurses). No complaints all around.

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From what we have seen from the revelations, at this point that is almost a taxpayer sustained form of welfare for many. Its probably somewhat distorting?

jja79 said:

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I must live in the only place that's booming because I see it differently.

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I'm sure there are pockets.
Even in Tech, if you are related to the AI and it's supply chain, you are good (NVDA is a great example). My son interned at one of their suppliers, and they were hiring dozens every week.

But pretty much everything else is awful.

Congratulations!

Athanasius said:

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than I ever have before. It's staggering.

And the ones getting jobs are taking massive pay cuts.

I think we are in for a very bad few years.

Who's bullish? Why?

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Does the unemployed include the 670,000 jobs "lost" due to the Democratic shutdown?

titan said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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jja79 said:

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What did I say that's bitter? Things are great where I live. Sorry they're so bad where you folks are.

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Same, though all of my friends and family either work for the government (state and federal) or in Healthcare (doctors and nurses). No complaints all around.

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From what we have seen from the revelations, at this point that is almost a taxpayer sustained form of welfare for many. Its probably somewhat distorting?

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What's good for all politicians from president to governor, why can't it be good for the rest of us?

Throw in private business who get government subsidies (O&G, etc.) on a regular basis, private companies who make money off of welfare (SNAP being used to buy their goods) and of course those who get Social Security medicaid and Medicare, and it's one heck of a spectrum of distortion.