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JFC!

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Matt Gaetz tells Tucker Carlson that “Israel was involved in the ‘op’ that accused him of trafficking underage girls.” pic.twitter.com/zYAYEOcUQT

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) December 22, 2025

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This is crazy. But maybe recalling wrong -- don't recall Gaetz being some kind of outspoken anti-Israel type conservative, or pro two-state, or anything to provoke such even in theory. Is this an old show, or also dated to 22nd like the clip.

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You're remembering correctly. Gaetz had a strong pro real voting record.


Yet, they still decided to give him a predilection for teenage girls and cocaine. Crafty Jews!

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See the last two replies to see what I'm talking about. Can't bring up Israel or else you're a hater, libtard or antisemite.

Also proves the point that Israel is the cause of the division within the conservatives and its pundits. Pretty crazy and darkly humorous that another country is what is dividing Americans.

Edit: Ben Shapiro a "conservative" is advocating censorship. This isn't about posters on F16, though many of them advocate for censorship too.

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Neither of those 2 posts even REMOTELY said anything about being a "hater", "libtard", or "antisemite".

But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr...

Tucker embarrassed Cruz in an interview for his pro-Israel policies. Ted was awful in the interview. It appeared he thought the interview would be friendly and Tucker did not.

Ever since then the conservative pundits have been directed to go after Tucker.

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Tucker embarrassed Cruz

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LOL! Now he didn't.

What he did was show his true colors. Jeopardy answers more important than policy to the low info voters.

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But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr.

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For decades, Liberals were the ones that created strawmen and lied to make themselves victims. They thought soundbytes were more impressive than actual beliefs and policy.

Now we see a section of the "right" that has adopted these tactics. I get why they do it. It works for the weak minded. Its a segment of society Liberals love to manipulate. Sad to see so many on the right falling for it these days.

By any measure, it was not a good interview for Cruz. He got cornered into defending US policy towards Israel via citing the bible. And inaccurately quoting stuff.

It was ridiculous.

Tucker, the same guy who said we'd be in a long protracted war with Iran if we did anything to deter their nuke aspirations? That fraud has no credibility on any subject.

You are confusing me saying it was a bad interview for Cruz with me being a Tucker fan.

That is not one and the same.

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BlackGold said:

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See the last two replies to see what I'm talking about. Can't bring up Israel or else you're a hater, libtard or antisemite.

Also proves the point that Israel is the cause of the division within the conservatives and its pundits. Pretty crazy and darkly humorous that another country is what is dividing Americans.

Edit: Ben Shapiro a "conservative" is advocating censorship. This isn't about posters on F16, though many of them advocate for censorship too.

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Neither of those 2 posts even REMOTELY said anything about being a "hater", "libtard", or "antisemite".

But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr...

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Throw martyr on the list!

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BlackGold said:

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It tough to really explain, other than there are so many rtards out there, on both sides... but lots of "conservatives" want to censor other conservatives or people they don't agree with, just like what was taking place under the Obama and Biden admins and something they were supposedly totally against. The biggest censor topic is Israel, though and that is where the big divide seems to be. If you question Israel or its motives, you are generally labeled as an antisemite, akin to under the Biden admin, when you were called a racist for not supporting BLM, or really any other reason, for that matter.

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This is the woke rights new tactic. When you challenge their ridiculous arguments they immediately turn around and cry about censorship.

Same thing they just did to Shapiro for righty calling out the evil things being done to a recently widowed woman.

You'd rather follow a guy who's feeding the flames and preaching about the virtues of Islam. A guy who said he wouldn't condemn his brother if he went on a killing spree. Which unironically sounds just like what a radical Muslim terrorist would do.

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My only argument was that Israel is the new dividing line in the party. It's true. Look at the flurry of responses when I brought up Israel.

What is woke is trying to silence the other side, or labeling or libeling them.

Anti-semites on one side: Carlson, Owens, Amrou Fadl (Myron Gaines from Somalia), Dan Bilzerian

good guys on the other side: most of America and Erika Kirk

"neutral countries siding with the Nazis but stating it is really the good guys fault"

Megyn Kelly / Kevin Roberts at Heritage Foundation

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See the last two replies to see what I'm talking about. Can't bring up Israel or else you're a hater, libtard or antisemite.

Also proves the point that Israel is the cause of the division within the conservatives and its pundits. Pretty crazy and darkly humorous that another country is what is dividing Americans.

Edit: Ben Shapiro a "conservative" is advocating censorship. This isn't about posters on F16, though many of them advocate for censorship too.

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Neither of those 2 posts even REMOTELY said anything about being a "hater", "libtard", or "antisemite".

But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr...

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Throw martyr on the list!

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You play the part well.

It's too bad you're censored everywhere and can't post your opinions about Israel anywhere, though...

BlackGold said:

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BlackGold said:

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It tough to really explain, other than there are so many rtards out there, on both sides... but lots of "conservatives" want to censor other conservatives or people they don't agree with, just like what was taking place under the Obama and Biden admins and something they were supposedly totally against. The biggest censor topic is Israel, though and that is where the big divide seems to be. If you question Israel or its motives, you are generally labeled as an antisemite, akin to under the Biden admin, when you were called a racist for not supporting BLM, or really any other reason, for that matter.

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This is the woke rights new tactic. When you challenge their ridiculous arguments they immediately turn around and cry about censorship.

Same thing they just did to Shapiro for righty calling out the evil things being done to a recently widowed woman.

You'd rather follow a guy who's feeding the flames and preaching about the virtues of Islam. A guy who said he wouldn't condemn his brother if he went on a killing spree. Which unironically sounds just like what a radical Muslim terrorist would do.

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My only argument was that Israel is the new dividing line in the party. It's true. Look at the flurry of responses when I brought up Israel.

What is woke is trying to silence the other side, or labeling or libeling them.

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You'd get a flurry of responses if you brought up a multitude of things, that doesn't make it a valid point. There are plenty of topics that are just bad ideas that get "canceled"... and for good reason. Socialism, big government, pedophilia, trans ideology, etc. are things that get knocked down pretty regularly in "conservatism" conversations and you don't seem to be complaining about that being "canceled". You have a pet bias, we get it.

Ag with kids said:

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BlackGold said:

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BlackGold said:

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See the last two replies to see what I'm talking about. Can't bring up Israel or else you're a hater, libtard or antisemite.

Also proves the point that Israel is the cause of the division within the conservatives and its pundits. Pretty crazy and darkly humorous that another country is what is dividing Americans.

Edit: Ben Shapiro a "conservative" is advocating censorship. This isn't about posters on F16, though many of them advocate for censorship too.

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Neither of those 2 posts even REMOTELY said anything about being a "hater", "libtard", or "antisemite".

But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr...

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Throw martyr on the list!

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You play the part well.

It's too bad you're censored everywhere and can't post your opinions about Israel anywhere, though...

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"Conservative" pundits are advocating censorship and deplatforming of other conservative pundits because they don't like what they have to say. This isn't about me posting on Texags. Read the OP instead of jumping in just to flame.

Have a Merry Christmas dude!

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BlackGold said:

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ATX_AG_08 said:

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BlackGold said:

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It tough to really explain, other than there are so many rtards out there, on both sides... but lots of "conservatives" want to censor other conservatives or people they don't agree with, just like what was taking place under the Obama and Biden admins and something they were supposedly totally against. The biggest censor topic is Israel, though and that is where the big divide seems to be. If you question Israel or its motives, you are generally labeled as an antisemite, akin to under the Biden admin, when you were called a racist for not supporting BLM, or really any other reason, for that matter.

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This is the woke rights new tactic. When you challenge their ridiculous arguments they immediately turn around and cry about censorship.

Same thing they just did to Shapiro for righty calling out the evil things being done to a recently widowed woman.

You'd rather follow a guy who's feeding the flames and preaching about the virtues of Islam. A guy who said he wouldn't condemn his brother if he went on a killing spree. Which unironically sounds just like what a radical Muslim terrorist would do.

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My only argument was that Israel is the new dividing line in the party. It's true. Look at the flurry of responses when I brought up Israel.

What is woke is trying to silence the other side, or labeling or libeling them.

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You'd get a flurry of responses if you brought up a multitude of things, that doesn't make it a valid point. There are plenty of topics that are just bad ideas that get "canceled"... and for good reason. Socialism, big government, pedophilia, trans ideology, etc. are things that get knocked down pretty regularly in "conservatism" conversations and you don't seem to be complaining about that being "canceled". You have a pet bias, we get it.

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Thanks for replying to another one of my posts. You seem to follow me around like a pet…

Have a Merry Christmas dude!

Echo chambers battling for market share.

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BlackGold said:

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See the last two replies to see what I'm talking about. Can't bring up Israel or else you're a hater, libtard or antisemite.

Also proves the point that Israel is the cause of the division within the conservatives and its pundits. Pretty crazy and darkly humorous that another country is what is dividing Americans.

Edit: Ben Shapiro a "conservative" is advocating censorship. This isn't about posters on F16, though many of them advocate for censorship too.

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Neither of those 2 posts even REMOTELY said anything about being a "hater", "libtard", or "antisemite".

But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr...

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Throw martyr on the list!

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You play the part well.

It's too bad you're censored everywhere and can't post your opinions about Israel anywhere, though...

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"Conservative" pundits are advocating censorship and deplatforming of other conservative pundits because they don't like what they have to say. This isn't about me posting on Texags. Read the OP instead of jumping in just to flame.

Have a Merry Christmas dude!

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Pointing out their full of shiyt-ness doesn't qualify as censorship or deplatforming. Sorry, we don't want to be the full Art Bell and Alex Jones party, man.

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BlackGold said:

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BlackGold said:

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BlackGold said:

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See the last two replies to see what I'm talking about. Can't bring up Israel or else you're a hater, libtard or antisemite.

Also proves the point that Israel is the cause of the division within the conservatives and its pundits. Pretty crazy and darkly humorous that another country is what is dividing Americans.

Edit: Ben Shapiro a "conservative" is advocating censorship. This isn't about posters on F16, though many of them advocate for censorship too.

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Neither of those 2 posts even REMOTELY said anything about being a "hater", "libtard", or "antisemite".

But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr...

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Throw martyr on the list!

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You play the part well.

It's too bad you're censored everywhere and can't post your opinions about Israel anywhere, though...

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"Conservative" pundits are advocating censorship and deplatforming of other conservative pundits because they don't like what they have to say. This isn't about me posting on Texags. Read the OP instead of jumping in just to flame.

Have a Merry Christmas dude!

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Pointing out their full of shiyt-ness doesn't qualify as censorship or deplatforming. Sorry, we don't want to be the full Art Bell and Alex Jones party, man.

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Neither do I. Look, we agree on something.

this is also maneuvering related to the post-TRUMP landscape. Carving out space, getting the elbows out, defining oneself to accumulate power in the next phase.

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BlackGold said:

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BlackGold said:

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See the last two replies to see what I'm talking about. Can't bring up Israel or else you're a hater, libtard or antisemite.

Also proves the point that Israel is the cause of the division within the conservatives and its pundits. Pretty crazy and darkly humorous that another country is what is dividing Americans.

Edit: Ben Shapiro a "conservative" is advocating censorship. This isn't about posters on F16, though many of them advocate for censorship too.

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Neither of those 2 posts even REMOTELY said anything about being a "hater", "libtard", or "antisemite".

But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr...

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Throw martyr on the list!

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You play the part well.

It's too bad you're censored everywhere and can't post your opinions about Israel anywhere, though...

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"Conservative" pundits are advocating censorship and deplatforming of other conservative pundits because they don't like what they have to say. This isn't about me posting on Texags. Read the OP instead of jumping in just to flame.

Have a Merry Christmas dude!

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For the hundredth time since you still don't seem to understand the word censorship - saying Candace shouldn't be able to yell her psycho conspiracy garbage from the stage at the RNC is not censorship. People like her, Tucker and Fuentes are welcome to start their own party. Sounds like you'd be front row at their next rally.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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BlackGold said:

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BlackGold said:

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BlackGold said:

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See the last two replies to see what I'm talking about. Can't bring up Israel or else you're a hater, libtard or antisemite.

Also proves the point that Israel is the cause of the division within the conservatives and its pundits. Pretty crazy and darkly humorous that another country is what is dividing Americans.

Edit: Ben Shapiro a "conservative" is advocating censorship. This isn't about posters on F16, though many of them advocate for censorship too.

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Neither of those 2 posts even REMOTELY said anything about being a "hater", "libtard", or "antisemite".

But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr...

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Throw martyr on the list!

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You play the part well.

It's too bad you're censored everywhere and can't post your opinions about Israel anywhere, though...

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"Conservative" pundits are advocating censorship and deplatforming of other conservative pundits because they don't like what they have to say. This isn't about me posting on Texags. Read the OP instead of jumping in just to flame.

Have a Merry Christmas dude!

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For the hundredth time since you still don't seem to understand the word censorship - saying Candace shouldn't be able to yell her psycho conspiracy garbage from the stage at the RNC is not censorship. People like her, Tucker and Fuentes are welcome to start their own party. Sounds like you'd be front row at their next rally.

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Censorship is a very broad term and yes people like you and others are advocating for censorship of some people you don't like. Maybe you're in denial.

Try to enjoy Christmas, instead of getting worked up over what some people have to say!

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Lots of egos at stake. Each one is trying to make their brand of bull **** relevant. They make a living with clicks and likes. These are all talking heads. I can't even read quoted material from that yahoo Shapiro without doing it at 1,000 words a minute in a vocal frequency only my dog can hear.

Turn all these idiots off and go fishing or do something worthy of your brain function.

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Agreed. I dont give two craps what any of these people think. Let them eat each other.

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BlackGold said:

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BlackGold said:

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See the last two replies to see what I'm talking about. Can't bring up Israel or else you're a hater, libtard or antisemite.

Also proves the point that Israel is the cause of the division within the conservatives and its pundits. Pretty crazy and darkly humorous that another country is what is dividing Americans.

Edit: Ben Shapiro a "conservative" is advocating censorship. This isn't about posters on F16, though many of them advocate for censorship too.

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Neither of those 2 posts even REMOTELY said anything about being a "hater", "libtard", or "antisemite".

But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr...

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Throw martyr on the list!

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You play the part well.

It's too bad you're censored everywhere and can't post your opinions about Israel anywhere, though...

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"Conservative" pundits are advocating censorship and deplatforming of other conservative pundits because they don't like what they have to say. This isn't about me posting on Texags. Read the OP instead of jumping in just to flame.

Have a Merry Christmas dude!

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For the hundredth time since you still don't seem to understand the word censorship - saying Candace shouldn't be able to yell her psycho conspiracy garbage from the stage at the RNC is not censorship. People like her, Tucker and Fuentes are welcome to start their own party. Sounds like you'd be front row at their next rally.

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Censorship is a very broad term and yes people like you and others are advocating for censorship of some people you don't like. Maybe you're in denial.

Try to enjoy Christmas, instead of getting worked up over what some people have to say!

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Feel free to point to one time where I've said they shouldn't be able to share their wacko conspiracy ideas on their own platforms. If anything, if anyone actually follows them it helps me know who to not take seriously. You don't get to change the definitions of words just to fit whatever weird argument you now seem to be trying to distance yourself from.

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this is also maneuvering related to the post-TRUMP landscape. Carving out space, getting the elbows out, defining oneself to accumulate power in the next phase.

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I agree, very on point. Trump has made himself so powerful and central to the GOP, that his departure leaves a huge power vacuum. An issue might be if a anyone cannot unify both sides, then a fractured party will just lead us into socialism, open borders, etc with a series of leftist wins across the board, imo.

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Interesting he called out Fuentes, but not Tucker

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Tucker's son works for Vance.

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Tucker embarrassed Cruz in an interview for his pro-Israel policies. Ted was awful in the interview. It appeared he thought the interview would be friendly and Tucker did not.

Ever since then the conservative pundits have been directed to go after Tucker.

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Did you watch the whole interview? (I think it was 90 minutes) The clips don't really capture what unfolded. Tucker was being absurdly snarky and `question set up leading' and even admitted it a few times. What he didnt' seem to get is Cruz's Israel support pre-dated all this stuff going on and went back to the time the Obamians were on full offensive on behalf of Palestinian takes like the "1967" borders issue. At the time, Cruz was something of an outlier in his openly pushing back. (Remember his example even pre-dates Trump -- Cruz was the actual template that first annoyed the go-along RINOs and Uniparty types. Exactly why has become very clear)

Tucker was saying absurd stuff like why haven't we nuked Iran if they are trying to kill the President. Well not least because even that doesn't rate blowing the world up, and its just not how you react to a threat like that -- you send your own agents to kill the assassins. And so on.

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this is also maneuvering related to the post-TRUMP landscape. Carving out space, getting the elbows out, defining oneself to accumulate power in the next phase.

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There's a new book out about the intellectual make up of MAGA, I found this quote from the NYT book review to be fairly accurate:

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Field divides the figures in "Furious Minds" into three main groups: the "Claremonters," who are associated with the Claremont Institute in California and "idolize the American founding"; the "Postliberals," who want to curb individual rights in favor of what they vaguely define as "the common good"; and the "National Conservatives," who endorse a homogenous nation-state and often embrace elements of Christian nationalism. Field also identifies another, more amorphous, group as part of this New Right: a "Hard Right Underbelly" that draws from (and fuels) the other three. Figures in this last group adopt aggressively silly nicknames like "Raw Egg Nationalist" (who has a Ph.D. from Oxford) and "Bronze Age Pervert" (who has a Ph.D. from Yale). They are extremely online and promote a hypermasculinist aesthetic; some of them, she notes, are openly racist and fascist.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/17/books/review/furious-minds-laura-field.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share


This is the core of the debate going on right now…what is the future of Republican Party moving forward.

Left out a big fourth one. The strong anti-Left. The ones so opposed to the world vision the Bidentites in particular were seeking to impose, who they back is far, far secondary. This is why things like Trump lack of decorum (which is a matter of record) are waved away. But since another part of that is being very strong anti-MSM hand on scales, that NYT wouldn't explore that closer doesn't surprise.

People might be surprised how much "right unrest" would dissolve if the Left promotion of insanity disappeared. From open borders, the gender bender agenda, excusing crime, to crippling energy and imposing absurd domestic stuff like the no heaters thread. Put another way -- if we could go back where you didn't have to think the first most likely greatest threat to your way of life is who next wins the WH, and not some foreign threat.

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Left out a big fourth one. The strong anti-Left. The ones so opposed to the world vision the Bidentites in particular were seeking to impose, who they back is far, far secondary. This is why things like Trump lack of decorum (which is a matter of record) are waved away. But since another part of that is being very strong anti-MSM hand on scales, that NYT wouldn't explore that closer doesn't surprise.

People might be surprised how much "right unrest" would dissolve if the Left promotion of insanity disappeared. From open borders, the gender bender agenda, excusing crime, to crippling energy and imposing absurd domestic stuff like the no heaters thread. Put another way -- if we could go back where you didn't have to think the first most likely greatest threat to your way of life is who next wins the WH, and not some foreign threat.

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Being "anti left" isn't an ideology…that's what got us to this spot in the first place. It has to have a core philosophy…and we haven't had that in a decade.

Now…I would subscribe to a 4th tent that's largely your traditional Ted Cruz, Roger Wicker, normie republican types.

I feel thats still the largest portion of the Republican Party, however, the camps listed above tend to be the ones driving the debate…which is why you saw all of Heritage economic and legal team up and quit.

The truth is that most conservatives understand that Israel is a key ally and needs to remain so.

From Turning Point Straw Poll:

Breaking via @BlakeSNeff:

TPUSA’s AmFest straw poll shows that just 13.3% say Israel isn't a U.S. ally, while 53.4% say it is an ally, and another 33.3% say it’s America’s top ally.

Grifter class hardest hit. pic.twitter.com/WTMwazkgIG

— Eitan Fischberger (@EFischberger) December 22, 2025

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See the last two replies to see what I'm talking about. Can't bring up Israel or else you're a hater, libtard or antisemite.

Also proves the point that Israel is the cause of the division within the conservatives and its pundits. Pretty crazy and darkly humorous that another country is what is dividing Americans.

Edit: Ben Shapiro a "conservative" is advocating censorship. This isn't about posters on F16, though many of them advocate for censorship too.

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Neither of those 2 posts even REMOTELY said anything about being a "hater", "libtard", or "antisemite".

But, continue with your attempt to be a martyr...

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Throw martyr on the list!

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You play the part well.

It's too bad you're censored everywhere and can't post your opinions about Israel anywhere, though...

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"Conservative" pundits are advocating censorship and deplatforming of other conservative pundits because they don't like what they have to say. This isn't about me posting on Texags. Read the OP instead of jumping in just to flame.

Have a Merry Christmas dude!

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For the hundredth time since you still don't seem to understand the word censorship - saying Candace shouldn't be able to yell her psycho conspiracy garbage from the stage at the RNC is not censorship. People like her, Tucker and Fuentes are welcome to start their own party. Sounds like you'd be front row at their next rally.

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Censorship is a very broad term and yes people like you and others are advocating for censorship of some people you don't like. Maybe you're in denial.

Try to enjoy Christmas, instead of getting worked up over what some people have to say!

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He's correct that you don't understand what "censorship" means...

They are perfectly free to espouse their positions.

However, conservatives that don't want them to do that using the GOP as their platform aren't censoring them. They're just telling them to go do it elsewhere.

If someone wants to yell Hook Em Horns in my house, I'll tell them to GTFO of my house. But, they're free to do it outside. That is not censorship.

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Left out a big fourth one. The strong anti-Left. The ones so opposed to the world vision the Bidentites in particular were seeking to impose, who they back is far, far secondary. This is why things like Trump lack of decorum (which is a matter of record) are waved away. But since another part of that is being very strong anti-MSM hand on scales, that NYT wouldn't explore that closer doesn't surprise.

People might be surprised how much "right unrest" would dissolve if the Left promotion of insanity disappeared. From open borders, the gender bender agenda, excusing crime, to crippling energy and imposing absurd domestic stuff like the no heaters thread. Put another way -- if we could go back where you didn't have to think the first most likely greatest threat to your way of life is who next wins the WH, and not some foreign threat.

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Being "anti left" isn't an ideology…that's what got us to this spot in the first place. It has to have a core philosophy…and we haven't had that in a decade.

Now…I would subscribe to a 4th tent that's largely your traditional Ted Cruz, Roger Wicker, normie republican types.

I feel thats still the largest portion of the Republican Party, however, the camps listed above tend to be the ones driving the debate…which is why you saw all of Heritage economic and legal team up and quit.

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This is exactly why I have wanted someone besides Trump lead the Republican party. There is no driving ideology behind Trump, it's just expediency and force of will. We purposefully dropped the ideas of small government and adopted versions of Keynesian economics for the purpose of "unity" behind Trump since he has been all over the map on those concepts.

Yes, it worked to defeat whomever was opposite Trump, but it has set the Republican party adrift ideologically for the future. That is why you see so many nutcases pushing their cause du jour so hard. The ideological vacuum has to be filled.

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Left out a big fourth one. The strong anti-Left. The ones so opposed to the world vision the Bidentites in particular were seeking to impose, who they back is far, far secondary. This is why things like Trump lack of decorum (which is a matter of record) are waved away. But since another part of that is being very strong anti-MSM hand on scales, that NYT wouldn't explore that closer doesn't surprise.

People might be surprised how much "right unrest" would dissolve if the Left promotion of insanity disappeared. From open borders, the gender bender agenda, excusing crime, to crippling energy and imposing absurd domestic stuff like the no heaters thread. Put another way -- if we could go back where you didn't have to think the first most likely greatest threat to your way of life is who next wins the WH, and not some foreign threat.

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Being "anti left" isn't an ideology…that's what got us to this spot in the first place. It has to have a core philosophy…and we haven't had that in a decade.

Now…I would subscribe to a 4th tent that's largely your traditional Ted Cruz, Roger Wicker, normie republican types.

I feel thats still the largest portion of the Republican Party, however, the camps listed above tend to be the ones driving the debate…which is why you saw all of Heritage economic and legal team up and quit.

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Well if they are focused only on "ideology" its pretty incomplete. I disagree that it isn't a big factor. The center left that voted for Trump in November 2024 were acting along lines like that--- a rejection of the Bidenian path, but not out of their own ideology. They just knew a destructive path when they saw it. Nor will those votes necessarily continue to vote in Trump admin's favor going forward. But they are more likely too, along with the rest of the block calling anti-Left, as long as the Democrats continue to veer hard Left toward socialism and worse. But they will evaporate as a vote if someone semi-sane runs again -- like they did in '92 with Clinton.

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Aston04 said:

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Tucker embarrassed Cruz in an interview for his pro-Israel policies. Ted was awful in the interview. It appeared he thought the interview would be friendly and Tucker did not.

Ever since then the conservative pundits have been directed to go after Tucker.

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Did you watch the whole interview? (I think it was 90 minutes) The clips don't really capture what unfolded. Tucker was being absurdly snarky and `question set up leading' and even admitted it a few times. What he didnt' seem to get is Cruz's Israel support pre-dated all this stuff going on and went back to the time the Obamians were on full offensive on behalf of Palestinian takes like the "1967" borders issue. At the time, Cruz was something of an outlier in his openly pushing back. (Remember his example even pre-dates Trump -- Cruz was the actual template that first annoyed the go-along RINOs and Uniparty types. Exactly why has become very clear)

Tucker was saying absurd stuff like why haven't we nuked Iran if they are trying to kill the President. Well not least because even that doesn't rate blowing the world up, and its just not how you react to a threat like that -- you send your own agents to kill the assassins. And so on.

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Tucker was snarky for sure. Was it a good interview for Cruz? No, really bad.

Shocking the core group of 3-4 here goaltending against admitting this.

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Tucker embarrassed Cruz in an interview for his pro-Israel policies. Ted was awful in the interview. It appeared he thought the interview would be friendly and Tucker did not.

Ever since then the conservative pundits have been directed to go after Tucker.

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Did you watch the whole interview? (I think it was 90 minutes) The clips don't really capture what unfolded. Tucker was being absurdly snarky and `question set up leading' and even admitted it a few times. What he didnt' seem to get is Cruz's Israel support pre-dated all this stuff going on and went back to the time the Obamians were on full offensive on behalf of Palestinian takes like the "1967" borders issue. At the time, Cruz was something of an outlier in his openly pushing back. (Remember his example even pre-dates Trump -- Cruz was the actual template that first annoyed the go-along RINOs and Uniparty types. Exactly why has become very clear)

Tucker was saying absurd stuff like why haven't we nuked Iran if they are trying to kill the President. Well not least because even that doesn't rate blowing the world up, and its just not how you react to a threat like that -- you send your own agents to kill the assassins. And so on.

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Tucker was snarky for sure. Was it a good interview for Cruz? No, really bad.

Shocking the core group of 3-4 here goaltending against admitting this.

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So you did watch the full 90 minutes and think Cruz did really bad? He had some stumble moments, but just didn't see that. He made rather clear what kind of right wing he isn't (not a "no war didn't like" interventionist Neocon) and what he thought should be the guiding interest.