The status of antisemitism in the USA.

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BusterAg
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Are there real human beings that are conservatives that are as antisemitic as i am seeing on this board?

This is a very new thing here. I am wondering where it comes from;

Middle Eastern bots that have just realized the amount of influence F16 has, and have decided to infiltrate us with nonsense?

*ucker Carleton and Fuentez are really having an impact on some impressionable conservatives, and we are starting to see the impact of this.

Some stupid skinheads think that since we are conservative, we are somehow like them, and think that bringing their filth here will actually influence people instead of making the hate antisemites even more?

The exponential deluge of antisemitic bull**** on here actually has me wondering the source of all this crap.
BTKAG97
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Huh? This board is very pro-Isreal.

Chastising secular jews because they hate Isreal isnt antisemitic.
HoustonAggie11
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Jews have been the scapegoat for 2000 years now man, not much has changed.
Rapier108
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BusterAg said:

Are there real human beings that are conservatives that are as antisemitic as i am seeing on this board?

This is a very new thing here. I am wondering where it comes from;

Middle Eastern bots that have just realized the amount of influence F16 has, and have decided to infiltrate us with nonsense?

*ucker Carleton and Fuentez are really having an impact on some impressionable conservatives, and we are starting to see the impact of this.

Some stupid skinheads think that since we are conservative, we are somehow like them, and think that bringing their filth here will actually influence people instead of making the hate antisemites even more?

The exponential deluge of antisemitic bull**** on here actually has me wondering the source of all this crap.

Those on F16 who constantly espouse antisemitism are not "conservatives." They're very loud, but there are not that many of them. Most have to change accounts regularly as they get banned. Bustup being the most famous one.

They do not believe in freedom or any of the values actual conservatives do. In fact they hate pretty much everyone who doesn't agree with their ideology.

Their desire is for the US to be some kind of totalitarian "christian" theocracy which would expel pretty much everyone who isn't white and does not practices their approved version of christianity.

And yes, I did not capitalize christian or christianity on purpose because what they preach is not anything Jesus taught. They simply twist his words for their own ends.

People like Tucker, Owens, Fuentes, and Mahler appeal to losers who need someone to blame for their ****ty lives and as history has shown, Jews are always the preferred scapegoat for the weak minded.
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Rapier108 said:

BusterAg said:

Are there real human beings that are conservatives that are as antisemitic as i am seeing on this board?

This is a very new thing here. I am wondering where it comes from;

Middle Eastern bots that have just realized the amount of influence F16 has, and have decided to infiltrate us with nonsense?

*ucker Carleton and Fuentez are really having an impact on some impressionable conservatives, and we are starting to see the impact of this.

Some stupid skinheads think that since we are conservative, we are somehow like them, and think that bringing their filth here will actually influence people instead of making the hate antisemites even more?

The exponential deluge of antisemitic bull**** on here actually has me wondering the source of all this crap.

Those on F16 who constantly espouse antisemitism are not "conservatives." They're very loud, but there are not that many of them. Most have to change accounts regularly as they get banned. Bustup being the most famous one.

They do not believe in freedom or any of the values actual conservatives do. In fact they hate pretty much everyone who doesn't agree with their ideology.

Their desire is for the US to be some kind of totalitarian "christian" theocracy which would expel pretty much everyone who isn't white and does not practices their approved version of christianity.

And yes, I did not capitalize christian or christianity on purpose because what they preach is not anything Jesus taught. They simply twist his words for their own ends.

People like Tucker, Owens, Fuentes, and Mahler appeal to losers who need someone to blame for their ****ty lives and as history has shown, Jews are always the preferred scapegoat for the weak minded.


Amen. And like antisemites throughout history, they hide behind pseudo intellectual arguments that allow them to claim "I'm not antisemitic but [insert conspiracy theory that is tied to Jewish subversion]."

It's a biblical hatred that will never disappear.
kb2001
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I don't see a lot of antisemitism on this board, can you provide some examples? Perhaps your definition of antisemitism is different.

Overall though, yes, there is an antisemitism problem on the right, in the form of the "Jews own and run everything" conspiracy theories, and in the "Jews killed Jesus, screw them all" mindset.

There is an antisemitism problem on the left as well. It takes the form of "free Palestine" and buying into those antisemitic spins on Israel. It also shows itself in Marxism. Marx, despite being ethnically half Jewish, despised Jews vocally, and a large basis of his grievances against capitalism are rooted in his belief that "Jews own and control everything" and are responsible for a society built on exchange of money.

I'll also add that antisemitism is older than 2000 years, the earliest example found in archaeology was found in Egypt and dates to about 300 years BC.
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BTKAG97 said:

Huh? This board is very pro-Isreal.

Chastising secular jews because they hate Isreal isnt antisemitic.
Israel? Israel has nothing to do with anti-Semitic or not. Lol. Jews are separate from Israel's government.

A lot of the far-right is very anti-Semitic, some race-related and some banks-related, like historical tropes.
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Ag1188 said:

BTKAG97 said:

Huh? This board is very pro-Isreal.

Chastising secular jews because they hate Isreal isnt antisemitic.
Israel? Israel has nothing to do with anti-Semitic or not. Lol. Jews are separate from Israel's government.

A lot of the far-right is very anti-Semitic, some race-related and some banks-related, like historical tropes.

This. Conflating how someone feels about Jews and the country of Israel does a disservice towards real anti semitism. Not sure if this is a troll post or not.
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Could you please provide some specific examples before you charge the whole board?
Pichael Thompson
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Conservatives accusing everyone of antisemitism is the same as liberals accusing everyone of racism
BMX Bandit
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Pichael Thompson said:

Conservatives accusing everyone of antisemitism is the same as liberals accusing everyone of racism


Thankfully, conservatives aren't accusing everyone of antisemitism.
ts5641
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What antisemitism are you seeing here? I see mostly very pro-Israel and Jewish posts.
Pichael Thompson
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BMX Bandit said:

Pichael Thompson said:

Conservatives accusing everyone of antisemitism is the same as liberals accusing everyone of racism


Thankfully, conservatives aren't accusing everyone of antisemitism.


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I understand the want to criticize Israel the secular nation, BUT since half of the entire world's population of practicing religious Jews live there, it is hard for me to give these secular Israel haters a pass as it seems that israel and the faith are close to one in the same.

Also I laugh at the Jews control everything silliness.

There are only about 16million Jews in the world of 8.3 billion non Jews.

That is a population of .002%.

They don't control much and if they do have more than the regular Joe, it is because of their religion which teaches good financial decision making. That is why they are able to rebound time and again.

Let's take Israel's influence on the Middle East. They just happen to be the only consistent ally we have relied on for the past 50+ years in the region. Of course, we are going to lean their way in every dispute. Who else are we going to trust? The saudis?

You want to ***** about religious influence look at what the Muslims have done since they have figured out how to use their money and migratory patterns to conquer other nations.

The anti-Israel crowd are misinformed or they are just pushing evil.

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

Ag1188 said:

BTKAG97 said:

Huh? This board is very pro-Isreal.

Chastising secular jews because they hate Isreal isnt antisemitic.
Israel? Israel has nothing to do with anti-Semitic or not. Lol. Jews are separate from Israel's government.

A lot of the far-right is very anti-Semitic, some race-related and some banks-related, like historical tropes.

This. Conflating how someone feels about Jews and the country of Israel does a disservice towards real anti semitism. Not sure if this is a troll post or not.



I think this was a troll post trying to get people to defend the Groypers, and I don't think it worked.
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This is what it looks like when a poster from here decides to post on X.
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BusterAg said:

Are there real human beings that are conservatives that are as antisemitic as i am seeing on this board?

This is a very new thing here. I am wondering where it comes from;

Middle Eastern bots that have just realized the amount of influence F16 has, and have decided to infiltrate us with nonsense?

*ucker Carleton and Fuentez are really having an impact on some impressionable conservatives, and we are starting to see the impact of this.

Some stupid skinheads think that since we are conservative, we are somehow like them, and think that bringing their filth here will actually influence people instead of making the hate antisemites even more?

The exponential deluge of antisemitic bull**** on here actually has me wondering the source of all this crap.

all of the above
LMCane
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BTKAG97 said:

Huh? This board is very pro-Isreal.

Chastising secular jews because they hate Isreal isnt antisemitic.


I do agree with this.

but it is inescapable there are anti-semites on this board who make it clear they hate the Jews:

"Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews.

While stating that criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country is not antisemitic,

the examples note that applying double standards, using symbols of classic antisemitism to characterize Israel, or delegitimizing its right to exist can be."
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Stressboy said:

I understand the want to criticize Israel the secular nation, BUT since half of the entire world's population of practicing religious Jews live there, it is hard for me to give these secular Israel haters a pass as it seems that israel and the faith are close to one in the same.

Also I laugh at the Jews control everything silliness.

There are only about 16million Jews in the world of 8.3 billion non Jews.

That is a population of .002%.

They don't control much and if they do have more than the regular Joe, it is because of their religion which teaches good financial decision making. That is why they are able to rebound time and again.

Let's take Israel's influence on the Middle East. They just happen to be the only consistent ally we have relied on for the past 50+ years in the region. Of course, we are going to lean their way in every dispute. Who else are we going to trust? The saudis?

You want to ***** about religious influence look at what the Muslims have done since they have figured out how to use their money and migratory patterns to conquer other nations.

The anti-Israel crowd are misinformed or they are just pushing evil.




Did you know that Bibi Netanyahu is secular and doesn't really practice the Jewish faith or keep its traditions?
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People can hate the government of Israel but not hate Jewish people just like we can hate the US government but love our country.

Saying America first is not antisemitic.
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It's not exactly that there are a lot of antisemites that post on this board, it's that the same ones can't go 24 hours without posting about it. It's crazy the amount of headspace it takes in some peoples minds.
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I wonder if OP gets this upset about the war on whites in America.
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I think anti-Semitic has even passed the dreaded "R" word on meaninglessness. This thread is a classic example.
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BTKAG97 said:

Huh? This board is very pro-Isreal.

Chastising secular jews because they hate Isreal isnt antisemitic.


R&P has some overt antisemites, though.
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Sea Speed said:

I wonder if OP gets this upset about the war on whites in America.

93MarineHorn
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Sorry, OP, there really isn't much anti-semitism on F16. Some people don't like Israel's approach to ME conflicts (I'm NOT one of them). This is not anti-semitism. There are, unfortunately, several posters on this board that leap to accusations of anti-semitism whenever Israel or our relationship to Israel is called into question.

Please post examples of blatant anti-semitism on F16. This does not mean post examples of anti-Israeli gov't sentiment.
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HollywoodBQ said:

Could you please provide some specific examples before you charge the whole board?

I can.

First, let's ask a qualifying question.

Would you agree that saying that our government, or our president, is beholden to the interests of the Jewish state to the detriment of the American people is a form of antisemitism?

It is a claim that is often made without any credible proof.

Coleman Hughes talks with Rabbi Wolpe about how this is a weird form of racism in Conversations with Coleman in his 1-26-2026 episode.

My assumption is that this is a wide-held position, and everyone agrees that the conspiracy theories that the Jews control the world is widely considered to be racist.

If I show a bunch of posts where people say with no proof that our government did this or that solely because they are in the pocket of the Jewish lobby, can we agree that this is antisemitism?
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There isn't a lot of it here. The ones that are just post an unhealthy amount.

There are also a few people here that are such hardline isolationists that their response to U.S. cooperation with Israel makes them appear to be antisemitic even though they actually aren't.
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Sea Speed said:

I wonder if OP gets this upset about the war on whites in America.

I do.

But, that is a different subject for a different thread. The war on whites due to DEI in corporate America is a real thing, but the motivation behind it is completely different from completely different people and manifests itself in a completely different way. I would not say that they are related at all.

I think that the only people that really hate WASP men in America live in Academia and the HR departments of corporate America. There are some similarities to Jew hating, but there are more differences than similarities.
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I've been accused of antisemitism for:

1. posting that Christians are routinely assaulted in Israel.

2. questioning the U.S. funding/budget for Israel.

I don't think either of those topics are antisemitic but such topics are past the line for some posters.
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93MarineHorn said:

Sorry, OP, there really isn't much anti-semitism on F16. Some people don't like Israel's approach to ME conflicts (I'm NOT one of them). This is not anti-semitism. There are, unfortunately, several posters on this board that leap to accusations of anti-semitism whenever Israel or our relationship to Israel is called into question.

Please post examples of blatant anti-semiticism on F16. This does not mean post examples of anti-Israeli sentiment.

There are lots of posters that are conspiracy theorists, and that runs the gamut from fake moon landing to 9/11 truthers to 1619 Project... so lots of flavors to choose from. Some of them choose to only believe the ones about Israel and by extension, Jews in the US/world. While it may not feel technically like antisemitism from those who espouse it, it is functionally indistinguishable from it.
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BusterAg said:

HollywoodBQ said:

Could you please provide some specific examples before you charge the whole board?

I can.

First, let's ask a qualifying question.

Would you agree that saying that our government, or our president, is beholden to the interests of the Jewish state to the detriment of the American people is a form of antisemitism?

It is a claim that is often made without any credible proof.

Coleman Hughes talks with Rabbi Wolpe about how this is a weird form of racism in Conversations with Coleman in his 1-26-2026 episode.

My assumption is that this is a wide-held position, and everyone agrees that the conspiracy theories that the Jews control the world is widely considered to be racist.

If I show a bunch of posts where people say with no proof that our government did this or that solely because they are in the pocket of the Jewish lobby, can we agree that this is antisemitism?

Why say the Jewish state instead of Israel? And no, criticism of our political leadership being overtly pro-Israel when they are being heavily funded by Israel is NOT antisemitism. Why would you think it is? Please explain why YOU think it's anti-semitic.

Much of our gov't is in the pocket of Israel (AIPAC has a massive footprint in Congress). Do you dispute this?
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Tergdor said:

There isn't a lot of it here. The ones that are just post an unhealthy amount.

There are also a few people here that are such hardline isolationists that their response to U.S. cooperation with Israel makes them appear to be antisemitic even though they actually aren't.

this is a great summary.


93MarineHorn
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I wonder how long it takes before I am accused of anti-semitism because of my posts on this thread.
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kb2001 said:

I don't see a lot of antisemitism on this board, can you provide some examples? Perhaps your definition of antisemitism is different.

Overall though, yes, there is an antisemitism problem on the right, in the form of the "Jews own and run everything" conspiracy theories, and in the "Jews killed Jesus, screw them all" mindset.

There is an antisemitism problem on the left as well. It takes the form of "free Palestine" and buying into those antisemitic spins on Israel. It also shows itself in Marxism. Marx, despite being ethnically half Jewish, despised Jews vocally, and a large basis of his grievances against capitalism are rooted in his belief that "Jews own and control everything" and are responsible for a society built on exchange of money.

I'll also add that antisemitism is older than 2000 years, the earliest example found in archaeology was found in Egypt and dates to about 300 years BC.


Quote:

Canaan is captive with all woe. Ashkelon is conquered, Gezer seized, Yanoam made nonexistent; Israel is laid waste, bare of seed.


EGYPT : 1210 BC Merneptah Stele. Laid waste to Israel and stole their food (or killed their men).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah_Stele
 
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