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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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Maybe it's because that is the definition. There just isn't an English word for the other two, but yes, that is exactly it.

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Severian the Torturer said:

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People can hate the government of Israel but not hate Jewish people just like we can hate the US government but love our country.

Saying America first is not antisemitic.

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People that hate the government of Israel more than they hate the government of, say, Argentina are irrational, but we constantly hear about one but not the other.

News flash, the government of Argentina is 1,000% more corrupt.

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Do we keep getting dragged into wars by Argentina?

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Which wars do you think that Israel dragged us into?

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Iraq 91, Iraq 03, Lebanese Civil War, Syria for the past generation, Iran presently.

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I was watching a clip online and these are conflicts that Charlie Kirk specifically mentioned. Then again, he was a raging Jew hater.

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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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Maybe it's because that is the definition. There just isn't an English word for the other two, but yes, that is exactly it.

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Why isn't there an English word for the other two? That's curious

Wut

Glad to have you back BustUp.

The deadliest antisemitism comes from the Leftist Democratic Socialist movement, (Weimar Germany and kept alive in spirit by American Democrats and EU leftists). Islamic fascists can only dream of being as good as those *******s.

Fuentes and Tucker are running a business and have a tiny following - and no political support from Republicans. They'll move on to the next shiny object when public opinion changes.

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I've been accused of antisemitism for:

1. posting that Christians are routinely assaulted in Israel.

2. questioning the U.S. funding/budget for Israel.

I don't think either of those topics are antisemitic but such topics are past the line for some posters.

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I was accused of it for pointing how many NBA franchise owners are Jewish.

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Should that be attributed to hoop stress?

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Glad to have you back BustUp.

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I'll see you at Mass

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I understand the want to criticize Israel the secular nation, BUT since half of the entire world's population of practicing religious Jews live there, it is hard for me to give these secular Israel haters a pass as it seems that israel and the faith are close to one in the same.

Also I laugh at the Jews control everything silliness.

There are only about 16million Jews in the world of 8.3 billion non Jews.

That is a population of .002%.

They don't control much and if they do have more than the regular Joe, it is because of their religion which teaches good financial decision making. That is why they are able to rebound time and again.

Let's take Israel's influence on the Middle East. They just happen to be the only consistent ally we have relied on for the past 50+ years in the region. Of course, we are going to lean their way in every dispute. Who else are we going to trust? The saudis?

You want to ***** about religious influence look at what the Muslims have done since they have figured out how to use their money and migratory patterns to conquer other nations.

The anti-Israel crowd are misinformed or they are just pushing evil.

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Did you know that Bibi Netanyahu is secular and doesn't really practice the Jewish faith or keep its traditions?

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Did you read my post that stated that half of practicing Jews are citizens of Israel? If the Jews did not want bibi they would replace him. The majority of ethnic Jews are not practicing. What does that matter to any of this?

Again, they are an insignificant population whose significance is only due to their better handling of money, and their nations position in the oil rich Middle East. Somehow that gets inflated in the minds of people who hate Jews that we do their bidding. We don't and when oil is no longer the life blood of civilization, we probably won't care about them at all other than we don't want them genocided out of existence.

Here is the bottom line: Just like the Hindus, the Jews are not going to kill me for being Christian, but the atheist collectivists and the Muslims would in a heart beat. Secular and religious Jews are not a big deal to me or to the world. Why are they such a big deal to you when there are so many worse threats?

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I just read an article on how Jewish settlers in and around the Holy Land are attacking and killing Christians and destroying churches. I'm not a fan of this. If Israel is our greatest ally and defender of democracy and freedom in the Middle East, why are they allowing this?

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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People can hate the government of Israel but not hate Jewish people just like we can hate the US government but love our country.

Saying America first is not antisemitic.

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People that hate the government of Israel more than they hate the government of, say, Argentina are irrational, but we constantly hear about one but not the other.

News flash, the government of Argentina is 1,000% more corrupt.

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Do we keep getting dragged into wars by Argentina?

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Does Argentina keep getting blamed for anything that happens in a region that is strategically placed between 3 continents that is extremely volatile and controlled mostly by religious zealots?

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That sounds like a "them" problem. If someone has a 2000 year old history of being blamed for things, they may be the target of a vicious multi-millennial smear campaign, or they might have a penchant for rustling jimmies.

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Next time just go ahead and write "those pesky Jews".

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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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There's a bit of a difference between disagreeing with someone's religion or the fruits of it and believing conspiracy theories about how Jews are subversive and secretly control the world.

We can have an intellectual conversation about specific policies in Israel that one disagrees with. No government is perfect. But when your point becomes that the Jewish state seeks to undermine US interests, the Mossad is behind every bad thing that ever happens, and the goal of Israel is destabilize the region to drag us into forever wars, you are wading into the waters of conspiratorial antisemitism.

Holding Israel to a different standard than all other countries in the world has a certain subtext, whether you see it or not.

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Wut

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I think your sarcasm meter needs calibration.

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Glad to have you back BustUp.

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I'll see you at Mass

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I don't understand the Catholic antisemitism correlation... I feel like there is some sort of weird deep down jealousy thing going on.

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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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Maybe it's because that is the definition. There just isn't an English word for the other two, but yes, that is exactly it.

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Why isn't there an English word for the other two? That's curious

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Anti-Christian and Islamaphobic? This board constantly has thread talking about anti-Christian hate. Are you complaining that there is not a specific ethnic term that encompasses all Christians and Muslims?

Weird hill to die on.

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Stressboy said:

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jwhaby said:

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I understand the want to criticize Israel the secular nation, BUT since half of the entire world's population of practicing religious Jews live there, it is hard for me to give these secular Israel haters a pass as it seems that israel and the faith are close to one in the same.

Also I laugh at the Jews control everything silliness.

There are only about 16million Jews in the world of 8.3 billion non Jews.

That is a population of .002%.

They don't control much and if they do have more than the regular Joe, it is because of their religion which teaches good financial decision making. That is why they are able to rebound time and again.

Let's take Israel's influence on the Middle East. They just happen to be the only consistent ally we have relied on for the past 50+ years in the region. Of course, we are going to lean their way in every dispute. Who else are we going to trust? The saudis?

You want to ***** about religious influence look at what the Muslims have done since they have figured out how to use their money and migratory patterns to conquer other nations.

The anti-Israel crowd are misinformed or they are just pushing evil.

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Did you know that Bibi Netanyahu is secular and doesn't really practice the Jewish faith or keep its traditions?

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Did you read my post that stated that half of practicing Jews are citizens of Israel? If the Jews did not want bibi they would replace him. The majority of ethnic Jews are not practicing. What does that matter to any of this?

Again, they are an insignificant population whose significance is only due to their better handling of money, and their nations position in the oil rich Middle East. Somehow that gets inflated in the minds of people who hate Jews that we do their bidding. We don't and when oil is no longer the life blood of civilization, we probably won't care about them at all other than we don't want them genocided out of existence.

Here is the bottom line: Just like the Hindus, the Jews are not going to kill me for being Christian, but the atheist collectivists and the Muslims would in a heart beat. Secular and religious Jews are not a big deal to me or to the world. Why are they such a big deal to you when there are so many worse threats?

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I just read an article on how Jewish settlers in and around the Holy Land are attacking and killing Christians and destroying churches. I'm not a fan of this. If Israel is our greatest ally and defender of democracy and freedom in the Middle East, why are they allowing this?

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Your biases determine what you find credible or not. It's pretty easy to see how ridiculous an article like that is if you aren't willing to believe just about anything that "those Jews" would be up to. You can find articles about Lizard people under the Vatican, too, but you are more likely to give it just as much credence as it deserves, which is none.

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Severian the Torturer said:

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BusterAg said:

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People can hate the government of Israel but not hate Jewish people just like we can hate the US government but love our country.

Saying America first is not antisemitic.

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People that hate the government of Israel more than they hate the government of, say, Argentina are irrational, but we constantly hear about one but not the other.

News flash, the government of Argentina is 1,000% more corrupt.

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Do we keep getting dragged into wars by Argentina?

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Does Argentina keep getting blamed for anything that happens in a region that is strategically placed between 3 continents that is extremely volatile and controlled mostly by religious zealots?

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That sounds like a "them" problem. If someone has a 2000 year old history of being blamed for things, they may be the target of a vicious multi-millennial smear campaign, or they might have a penchant for rustling jimmies.

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Next time just go ahead and write "those pesky Jews".

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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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There's a bit of a difference between disagreeing with someone's religion or the fruits of it and believing conspiracy theories about how Jews are subversive and secretly control the world.

We can have an intellectual conversation about specific policies in Israel that one disagrees with. No government is perfect. But when your point becomes that the Jewish state seeks to undermine US interests, the Mossad is behind every bad thing that ever happens, and the goal of Israel is destabilize the region to drag us into forever wars, you are wading into the waters of conspiratorial antisemitism.

Holding Israel to a different standard than all other countries in the world has a certain subtext, whether you see it or not.

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The Jewish state seeks to promote Jewish interests and doesn't care if it undermines US interests; that's the way every country should be.

There is zero doubt that Israel has tried subterfuge, theft, and outright attacks on us during our relationship. The Lavon affair is settled history. Bibi Netanyahu has bragged that the US does what he wants us to do.

Kudos to him, I wish him all success in destroying Iran, seriously. I live in Abu Dhabi, my odds of being hit by an Israeli missile are zilch. That doesn't mean I think the USA should have anything to do with Israeli foreign policy.

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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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Maybe it's because that is the definition. There just isn't an English word for the other two, but yes, that is exactly it.

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Why isn't there an English word for the other two? That's curious

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Anti-Christian and Islamaphobic? This board constantly has thread talking about anti-Christian hate. Are you complaining that there is not a specific ethnic term that encompasses all Christians and Muslims?

Weird hill to die on.

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My question is why can't someone have legitimate reasons for disliking Judaism, unlike the other two?

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Wut

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I think your sarcasm meter needs calibration.

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Phatbob said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Glad to have you back BustUp.

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I'll see you at Mass

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I don't understand the Catholic antisemitism correlation... I feel like there is some sort of weird deep down jealousy thing going on.

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It's really all of Christianity until the Scofield Bible turned American evangelicals into supporters. Look at orthodox countries, look at the Protestant reformation. This isn't some niche Catholic thing.

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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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Maybe it's because that is the definition. There just isn't an English word for the other two, but yes, that is exactly it.

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Why isn't there an English word for the other two? That's curious

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Anti-Christian and Islamaphobic? This board constantly has thread talking about anti-Christian hate. Are you complaining that there is not a specific ethnic term that encompasses all Christians and Muslims?

Weird hill to die on.

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My question is why can't someone have legitimate reasons for disliking Judaism, unlike the other two?

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That's fine, just as long as you own it. We can't have a serious discussion where we can't call antisemitism exactly that, just because it has been dismissed as an invalid way of thinking and you don't like it.

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Glad to have you back BustUp.

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I'll see you at Mass

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I don't understand the Catholic antisemitism correlation... I feel like there is some sort of weird deep down jealousy thing going on.

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"The Jews killed Jesus."

That is the excuse most of them use and it goes very far back into Catholic history. The church used to be one of the biggest drivers of antisemitism throughout the last 2000 years.

Of course now it is just an intellectually lazy reasoning like everything else they espouse. (Not all Catholics, just the antisemites.)

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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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Maybe it's because that is the definition. There just isn't an English word for the other two, but yes, that is exactly it.

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Why isn't there an English word for the other two? That's curious

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Anti-Christian and Islamaphobic? This board constantly has thread talking about anti-Christian hate. Are you complaining that there is not a specific ethnic term that encompasses all Christians and Muslims?

Weird hill to die on.

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My question is why can't someone have legitimate reasons for disliking Judaism, unlike the other two?

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That's fine, just as long as you own it. We can't have a serious discussion where we can't call antisemitism exactly that, just because it has been dismissed as an invalid way of thinking and you don't like it.

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I absolutely own that there are legitimate reasons for disliking Judaism as a religion

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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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Maybe it's because that is the definition. There just isn't an English word for the other two, but yes, that is exactly it.

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Why isn't there an English word for the other two? That's curious

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Anti-Christian and Islamaphobic? This board constantly has thread talking about anti-Christian hate. Are you complaining that there is not a specific ethnic term that encompasses all Christians and Muslims?

Weird hill to die on.

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My question is why can't someone have legitimate reasons for disliking Judaism, unlike the other two?

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You can. Nobody is asking you to convert to Judaism. It becomes a problem when you start hating Jews just because you disagree with their religion.

I think Islam is an evil. I still have Muslim friends and treat them as fellow children of God. I can disagree with people and oppose their beliefs without hating them and pushing conspiracy theories that they are behind every bad thing that ever happens.

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Phatbob said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Glad to have you back BustUp.

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I'll see you at Mass

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I don't understand the Catholic antisemitism correlation... I feel like there is some sort of weird deep down jealousy thing going on.

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"The Jews killed Jesus."

That is the excuse most of them use and it goes back. Of course, it is an intellectually lazy reasoning like everything else they espouse. (Not all Catholics, just the antisemites.)

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What is Judaism's stance on Jesus Christ? That he was a blasphemer who died a blasphemer's death, no?

Define anti-semitism...because I know people who think not feeling sorry for Jews in general, or not thinking they are 'special', is "anti-semitic".

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Huh? This board is very pro-Isreal.

Chastising secular jews because they hate Isreal isnt antisemitic.

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Secular Jews is a self cancelling phrase.

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jwhaby said:

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Stressboy said:

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jwhaby said:

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Stressboy said:

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I understand the want to criticize Israel the secular nation, BUT since half of the entire world's population of practicing religious Jews live there, it is hard for me to give these secular Israel haters a pass as it seems that israel and the faith are close to one in the same.

Also I laugh at the Jews control everything silliness.

There are only about 16million Jews in the world of 8.3 billion non Jews.

That is a population of .002%.

They don't control much and if they do have more than the regular Joe, it is because of their religion which teaches good financial decision making. That is why they are able to rebound time and again.

Let's take Israel's influence on the Middle East. They just happen to be the only consistent ally we have relied on for the past 50+ years in the region. Of course, we are going to lean their way in every dispute. Who else are we going to trust? The saudis?

You want to ***** about religious influence look at what the Muslims have done since they have figured out how to use their money and migratory patterns to conquer other nations.

The anti-Israel crowd are misinformed or they are just pushing evil.

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Did you know that Bibi Netanyahu is secular and doesn't really practice the Jewish faith or keep its traditions?

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Did you read my post that stated that half of practicing Jews are citizens of Israel? If the Jews did not want bibi they would replace him. The majority of ethnic Jews are not practicing. What does that matter to any of this?

Again, they are an insignificant population whose significance is only due to their better handling of money, and their nations position in the oil rich Middle East. Somehow that gets inflated in the minds of people who hate Jews that we do their bidding. We don't and when oil is no longer the life blood of civilization, we probably won't care about them at all other than we don't want them genocided out of existence.

Here is the bottom line: Just like the Hindus, the Jews are not going to kill me for being Christian, but the atheist collectivists and the Muslims would in a heart beat. Secular and religious Jews are not a big deal to me or to the world. Why are they such a big deal to you when there are so many worse threats?

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I just read an article on how Jewish settlers in and around the Holy Land are attacking and killing Christians and destroying churches. I'm not a fan of this. If Israel is our greatest ally and defender of democracy and freedom in the Middle East, why are they allowing this?

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Your biases determine what you find credible or not. It's pretty easy to see how ridiculous an article like that is if you aren't willing to believe just about anything that "those Jews" would be up to. You can find articles about Lizard people under the Vatican, too, but you are more likely to give it just as much credence as it deserves, which is none.

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You're talking silly now. These aren't conspiracy theories published in esoteric magazines. This is really happening, but feel free to bury your head in the sand.

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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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Maybe it's because that is the definition. There just isn't an English word for the other two, but yes, that is exactly it.

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Why isn't there an English word for the other two? That's curious

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Anti-Christian and Islamaphobic? This board constantly has thread talking about anti-Christian hate. Are you complaining that there is not a specific ethnic term that encompasses all Christians and Muslims?

Weird hill to die on.

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My question is why can't someone have legitimate reasons for disliking Judaism, unlike the other two?

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You can. Nobody is asking you to convert to Judaism. It becomes a problem when you start hating Jews just because you disagree with their religion.

I think Islam is an evil. I still have Muslim friends and treat them as fellow children of God. I can disagree with people and oppose their beliefs without hating them and pushing conspiracy theories that they are behind every bad thing that ever happens.

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I don't think they are behind every bad thing that happens. I think they are behind a lot of bad things that happen in the west and have been at the forefront of the attacks on conservatism.

Severian the Torturer said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Phatbob said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Glad to have you back BustUp.

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I'll see you at Mass

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I don't understand the Catholic antisemitism correlation... I feel like there is some sort of weird deep down jealousy thing going on.

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"The Jews killed Jesus."

That is the excuse most of them use and it goes back. Of course, it is an intellectually lazy reasoning like everything else they espouse. (Not all Catholics, just the antisemites.)

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What is Judaism's stance on Jesus Christ? That he was a blasphemer who died a blasphemer's death, no?

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That's an interesting take... Why are you not taking Jesus' Christ stance on Judaism?

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Kvetch said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Phatbob said:

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You can't say that. You can say "those pesky Christians" or "those pesky Muslims" but the other one is anti-semitism.

There are very real reasons for people to dislike Christians, there are very real reasons for people to dislike Muslims, anyone who dislikes Jews is just an antisemite.

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Maybe it's because that is the definition. There just isn't an English word for the other two, but yes, that is exactly it.

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Why isn't there an English word for the other two? That's curious

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Anti-Christian and Islamaphobic? This board constantly has thread talking about anti-Christian hate. Are you complaining that there is not a specific ethnic term that encompasses all Christians and Muslims?

Weird hill to die on.

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My question is why can't someone have legitimate reasons for disliking Judaism, unlike the other two?

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You can. Nobody is asking you to convert to Judaism. It becomes a problem when you start hating Jews just because you disagree with their religion.

I think Islam is an evil. I still have Muslim friends and treat them as fellow children of God. I can disagree with people and oppose their beliefs without hating them and pushing conspiracy theories that they are behind every bad thing that ever happens.

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Will you elucidate what the Jewish position is on Jesus Christ?

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Phatbob said:

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jwhaby said:

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Stressboy said:

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jwhaby said:

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Stressboy said:

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I understand the want to criticize Israel the secular nation, BUT since half of the entire world's population of practicing religious Jews live there, it is hard for me to give these secular Israel haters a pass as it seems that israel and the faith are close to one in the same.

Also I laugh at the Jews control everything silliness.

There are only about 16million Jews in the world of 8.3 billion non Jews.

That is a population of .002%.

They don't control much and if they do have more than the regular Joe, it is because of their religion which teaches good financial decision making. That is why they are able to rebound time and again.

Let's take Israel's influence on the Middle East. They just happen to be the only consistent ally we have relied on for the past 50+ years in the region. Of course, we are going to lean their way in every dispute. Who else are we going to trust? The saudis?

You want to ***** about religious influence look at what the Muslims have done since they have figured out how to use their money and migratory patterns to conquer other nations.

The anti-Israel crowd are misinformed or they are just pushing evil.

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Did you know that Bibi Netanyahu is secular and doesn't really practice the Jewish faith or keep its traditions?

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Did you read my post that stated that half of practicing Jews are citizens of Israel? If the Jews did not want bibi they would replace him. The majority of ethnic Jews are not practicing. What does that matter to any of this?

Again, they are an insignificant population whose significance is only due to their better handling of money, and their nations position in the oil rich Middle East. Somehow that gets inflated in the minds of people who hate Jews that we do their bidding. We don't and when oil is no longer the life blood of civilization, we probably won't care about them at all other than we don't want them genocided out of existence.

Here is the bottom line: Just like the Hindus, the Jews are not going to kill me for being Christian, but the atheist collectivists and the Muslims would in a heart beat. Secular and religious Jews are not a big deal to me or to the world. Why are they such a big deal to you when there are so many worse threats?

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I just read an article on how Jewish settlers in and around the Holy Land are attacking and killing Christians and destroying churches. I'm not a fan of this. If Israel is our greatest ally and defender of democracy and freedom in the Middle East, why are they allowing this?

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Your biases determine what you find credible or not. It's pretty easy to see how ridiculous an article like that is if you aren't willing to believe just about anything that "those Jews" would be up to. You can find articles about Lizard people under the Vatican, too, but you are more likely to give it just as much credence as it deserves, which is none.

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You're talking silly now. These aren't conspiracy theories published in esoteric magazines. This is really happening, but feel free to bury your head in the sand.

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Just like that story of Jews burning down a church that came out a few months ago that turned out to be Jews trying to help put out a fire at a church?

Phatbob said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Phatbob said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Glad to have you back BustUp.

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I'll see you at Mass

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I don't understand the Catholic antisemitism correlation... I feel like there is some sort of weird deep down jealousy thing going on.

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"The Jews killed Jesus."

That is the excuse most of them use and it goes back. Of course, it is an intellectually lazy reasoning like everything else they espouse. (Not all Catholics, just the antisemites.)

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What is Judaism's stance on Jesus Christ? That he was a blasphemer who died a blasphemer's death, no?

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That's an interesting take... Why are you not taking Jesus' Christ stance on Judaism?

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Because Judaism ended with Jesus Christ.

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Phatbob said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Glad to have you back BustUp.

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I'll see you at Mass

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I don't understand the Catholic antisemitism correlation... I feel like there is some sort of weird deep down jealousy thing going on.

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"The Jews killed Jesus."

That is the excuse most of them use and it goes back. Of course, it is an intellectually lazy reasoning like everything else they espouse. (Not all Catholics, just the antisemites.)

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What is Judaism's stance on Jesus Christ? That he was a blasphemer who died a blasphemer's death, no?

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That's an interesting take... Why are you not taking Jesus' Christ stance on Judaism?

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Enlighten us, preacher. What was it? Don't tell me Genesis 12:3.

Severian the Torturer said:

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Phatbob said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Phatbob said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Glad to have you back BustUp.

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I'll see you at Mass

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I don't understand the Catholic antisemitism correlation... I feel like there is some sort of weird deep down jealousy thing going on.

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"The Jews killed Jesus."

That is the excuse most of them use and it goes back. Of course, it is an intellectually lazy reasoning like everything else they espouse. (Not all Catholics, just the antisemites.)

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What is Judaism's stance on Jesus Christ? That he was a blasphemer who died a blasphemer's death, no?

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That's an interesting take... Why are you not taking Jesus' Christ stance on Judaism?

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Because Judaism ended with Jesus Christ.

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I'm going to end this line of conversation because it belongs in a different forum. Just know that makes very little sense.