Its got to happen within weeks. Trump has shown us he pivots when he loses support. Looks like a new "Trump got bad intel" narrative might be birthing.

Tulsi has already posted about "Trump making the decision to go to war based on the intel in front of him." Making it clear she gave no recommendation for war. So who gets thrown under the bus? Probably Israel. Trump then goes back to his old self with "Israel doesnt know WTF they are doing".

Still time for Trump to claim the US hit all their Epic Fury targets and claim victory like Midnight Hammer. What's stopping that? Bibi and others pushing him hard to "finish the job".

Edit: "Bad intel" about an Iranian plot to attack the US. The "imminent threat" that was supposedly presented to Trump, that he then used to initiate war.

This is silly. There isn't an honest person in either party out there who doesn't think Iran was trying to develop a nuke, was getting ever closer, and would like to use it against the West (or at least have it as a defense from being obliterated as they continued their damaging and murderous proxy fights against the west).

No reason to relent until Iran has leadership that is friendly to the civilized world.

Declare a victory regardless of the outcome as he withdraws. Same **** different toilet.

Gap said:

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There isn't an honest person in either party out there who doesn't think Iran was trying to develop a nuke, was getting ever closer, and would like to use it against the West.

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Edited my OP, for those that haven't been following the news. The "imminent threat" claim was about a plot to attack the US, not their ambitions to build a nuke and one day use it.

I know everyone likes to move goal posts and conflate the two different arguments. This thread is about the "imminent threat of Iran attacking the US". Its the equivalent of "Saddam has WMDs"...it was never "Saddam wanted to one day aquire WMDs".

FobTies said:

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Its got to happen within weeks. Trump has shown us he pivots when he loses support. Looks like a new "Trump got bad intel" narrative might be birthing.

Tulsi has already posted about "Trump making the decision to go to war based on the intel in front of him." Making it clear she gave no recommendation for war. So who gets thrown under the bus? Probably Israel. Trump then goes back to his old self with "Israel doesnt know WTF they are doing".

Still time for Trump to claim the US hit all their Epic Fury targets and claim victory like Midnight Hammer. What's stopping that? Bibi and others pushing him hard to "finish the job".

Edit: "Bad intel" about an Iranian plot to attack the US. The "imminent threat" that was supposedly presented to Trump, that he then used to initiate war.

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Well, the administration has been telling it to you since this started, but since you won't listen to them, I doubt you'd listen to any of us, either...

Everyone knows there was no imminent threat. This was a once in lifetime chance to eliminate the terrorist threat that is Iran. If this forces a regime change and we get a more western Iran then it's all worth it. Even the Arab countries can't stand Iran.

Keep looking for your gotcha moment, because this ain't it.

By the end of the week, the intel Trump was provided to make the decision to initiate war will be in headlines.

It won't be the played out ambiguous narrative that "Iran was about to have nukes and we cant let that happen". Thats what still gets flooded with blue stars on F16, but will fade soon.

A top intel official just resigned, and others will testify in next 2 days.....stand by.

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By the end of the week, the intel Trump was provided to make the decision to initiate war will be in headlines.

It won't be the played out ambiguous narrative that "Iran cant ever have nukes". A top intel official just resigned, and others will testify in next 2 days.

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And you think that it will be the end of it, but when it isn't, you'll fall back on "Israel is forcing Trump to continue".

And your "top intel official" is not the hero you think he is.

To be clear, I dont think the war ends by the end of the week or on a report he got bad intel.

All I know is that if Trump doesnt close this out like he did Midnight Hammer, he is going to have to throw someone under the bus....bad intel, Bibi mistakes, or Iranian civilians/ops not rising up, etc.

Whats almost certainly not going to happen is the installation of a new Western friendly regime. That would basically consume the rest of Trumps presidency and possibly ruin his legacy.

FriscoKid said:

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Everyone knows there was no imminent threat. This was a once in lifetime chance to eliminate the terrorist threat that is Iran.

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So you are basically saying Trump and WH lied us into a war about a fake "imminent threat"? But we needed to be lied into it, because now was the chance to finally eliminate the Iran longer term threat?

Appreciate your honesty.

This is an ass kicking. This is Gulf War 1 air campaign domination stuff against a much stronger, more prepared force, in a much larger country with fewer casualties than what was likely anticipated.

Iran's strategy has been social media flooding, these drone and missile potshots against soft targets and hoping the US media does their part to mislead the public. Democrats seem to be playing along with Iranian propaganda. Pisses me right off.

Trump said from the outset it would be a several week operation and thus far it is on track.

And oil has barely moved higher in the last week despite Hormuz. None of the dire predictions about what would happen if the strait was affected (ermegerd oil $250) have come true at all, yet some in our country seem to be wishing it were.

He needs to stay the damn course and finish the job.

I'm already bored with this. It isn't like anyone paying attention at any point over the past 4-5 decades don't already understand the imminent threat from Iran. You aren't going to be able to twist this or confuse people because they already understand it and it isn't complex.

ErnestEndeavor said:

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This is an ass kicking. This is Gulf War 1 air campaign domination stuff against a much stronger, more prepared force, in a much larger country with fewer casualties than what was likely anticipated.

Iran's strategy has been social media flooding, these drone and missile potshots against soft targets and hoping the US media does their part to mislead the public. Democrats seem to be playing along with Iranian propaganda. Pisses me right off.

Trump said from the outset it would be a several week operation and thus far it is on track.

And oil has barely moved higher in the last week despite Hormuz. None of the dire predictions about what would happen if the strait was affected (ermegerd oil $250) have come true at all, yet some in our country seem to be wishing it were.

He needs to stay the damn course and finish the job.

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THIS.

He's completely degraded Iran. Their ballistic missile production is finished.
Their air force is finished.
Their cheap TEMU crap is finished.
They are down to cheap (but effective drones), but those are tactical weapons mostly, not strategic.
They've blown their wad on trying to block Hormuz (it will be successful for only so long)
And they've pissed off their Arab neighbors to where, even if Iran's regime survives, they will invest heavier than ever before in weaponry and defense.

Stay and finish the job. At worst, make Iran a strategic non-entity (like iraq). The best case is a US/world friendly regime

FobTies said:

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Its got to happen within weeks. Trump has shown us he pivots when he loses support. Looks like a new "Trump got bad intel" narrative might be birthing.

Tulsi has already posted about "Trump making the decision to go to war based on the intel in front of him." Making it clear she gave no recommendation for war. So who gets thrown under the bus? Probably Israel. Trump then goes back to his old self with "Israel doesnt know WTF they are doing".

Still time for Trump to claim the US hit all their Epic Fury targets and claim victory like Midnight Hammer. What's stopping that? Bibi and others pushing him hard to "finish the job".

Edit: "Bad intel" about an Iranian plot to attack the US. The "imminent threat" that was supposedly presented to Trump, that he then used to initiate war.

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your posts are just plain stupid.

This continued push of Trump just being a stooge for Israel is very strange. Is there an end game here for the ruhtahd right?

If you really believe Trump is just doing Netanyahu's bidding, there are only 4 possibilities as to why:

A-too weak to stop him
B-too dumb to see it
C-compromised
D-paid off


You simply can't support Trump being president and push this nonsensical "Israel is controlling us" narrative.


Maybe this is all part of the nutball plan to impeach Trump and get Vance in office hatched in parental unit basements around the country.

CNN data shows overwhelming backing among Trump’s MAGA base for the Iran operation.

“MAGA GOP...look at this! Nearly 9 in 10, 89% APPROVE!”

“Just 9% disapprove of it.

This is TREMENDOUSLY popular among the Republican base.” pic.twitter.com/53I2Tp3EBJ

— Polymarket Intel (@PolymarketIntel) March 17, 2026

Ahhh, got it now. The other sock thread was locked so we needed another on covering the same points.

The fact we have demolished the Islamic Republic seems to be really burning you up inside.

As well as your TDS when you claim Trump always has to blame someone for his actions.

I don't remember Trump blaming the Jews for grabbing Nicholas Maduro a few months ago.

I think the OP is very confused. The war started because of excellent intel that allowed us to take out the top leadership with the first bomb dropped.

Was there an imminent threat? Well Iran has been at war with us for 47 years so the threat of terror was always imminent.

Define imminent when it comes to nuclear terror (whether threatened or actually used). When a bomb is loaded on a cargo ship with sailing orders to NYC? Imminent is not a word with a time definition so the argument is a little silly. The Webster's definition on imminent is 1. About to happen 2. Overhanging

Hard to argue the nuclear threat wasn't overhanging from Iran.

We've heard for decades that a climate crisis is imminent and a threat to our species and the imminent cause of another mass extinction. Western nations have spent trillions and wrecked their energy security over this imminent threat.

So the war started based on excellent intelligence about when and where we could decapitate the snake that has been striving to bite us with nuclear terror for decades.

First strike. inset "I'll allow it" gif

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This is silly. There isn't an honest person in either party out there who doesn't think Iran was trying to develop a nuke, was getting ever closer, and would like to use it against the West (or at least have it as a defense from being obliterated as they continued their damaging and murderous proxy fights against the west).

No reason to relent until Iran has leadership that is friendly to the civilized world.

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Trying to build a nuke. No question.

Getting ever closer. After we hit their nuclear facilities there was arguments over the success of the missions. Trump said we were 100% successful in destroying their capabilities. The Dems said that was doubtful. Just about everyone on this forum agreed with Trump. So are we now saying those strikes really didn't do much, that we were afraid to admit the Dems were right?

No reason to relent until the leadership is friendly to the west. You've got to be joking, right? Read history do you? Then we best be prepared to fight for all eternity.

Trump did not start this war because he thought Iran was an "imminent" danger. I think we'll see a number of people leave his administration and admit to that.

There is no way we can finish this with the outcome we want by air power alone. In fact, how can we retrieve all the nuclear materials that Iran has without feet on the ground? We can't. And our allies are so pissed at us, there will be no help.

We are getting pulled into a quicksand and I think Trump totally miscalculated this whole thing. I think any person being honest with themselves can see that. But then again, these are the same people who said our strikes last year, totally wiped out their capabilities.

Why does he need an off ramp? This has probably been the most successful military operation in history. Especially considering the size and capabilities of Iran. We've been unbelievably successful and it's only been 19 days at this point.
If we had an honest media the entire nation and international community would be praising Trump.

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Gap said:

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This is silly. There isn't an honest person in either party out there who doesn't think Iran was trying to develop a nuke, was getting ever closer, and would like to use it against the West (or at least have it as a defense from being obliterated as they continued their damaging and murderous proxy fights against the west).

No reason to relent until Iran has leadership that is friendly to the civilized world.

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Trying to build a nuke. No question.

Getting ever closer. After we hit their nuclear facilities there was arguments over the success of the missions. Trump said we were 100% successful in destroying their capabilities. The Dems said that was doubtful. Just about everyone on this forum agreed with Trump. So are we now saying those strikes really didn't do much, that we were afraid to admit the Dems were right?

No reason to relent until the leadership is friendly to the west. You've got to be joking, right? Read history do you? Then we best be prepared to fight for all eternity.

Trump did not start this war because he thought Iran was an "imminent" danger. I think we'll see a number of people leave his administration and admit to that.

There is no way we can finish this with the outcome we want by air power alone. In fact, how can we retrieve all the nuclear materials that Iran has without feet on the ground? We can't. And our allies are so pissed at us, there will be no help.

We are getting pulled into a quicksand and I think Trump totally miscalculated this whole thing. I think any person being honest with themselves can see that. But then again, these are the same people who said our strikes last year, totally wiped out their capabilities.

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Good lord, turn off msnbc and quit being so easily manipulated.