Dems plan to take back power and keep it forever

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In reply to bonfarr • 12:31p, 4/17/26
bonfarr said:
I can't believe Mary Matalin hasn't smothered him with a pillow by now.

She did. This is what remains.
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In reply to richardag • 12:34p, 4/17/26
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The conservative movement including MAGA wants the Constitution followed

No they don't. They only want it followed when it suits them - otherwise they're happy to trash it just like liberals.

Citations please.

We could start with FISA 702.
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12:43p, 4/17/26
If the Dems pack the court, we'll need a Civil War 2.
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In reply to Ag83 • 12:50p, 4/17/26
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Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
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The conservative movement including MAGA wants the Constitution followed

No they don't. They only want it followed when it suits them - otherwise they're happy to trash it just like liberals.

Citations please.

We could start with FISA 702.

Which is currently failing to pass reauthorization without additional protective amendments for US citizens that many Republicans are pushing for. So, you might be able to strike this from the list soon.
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In reply to Dan Carlin • 12:55p, 4/17/26
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Dan Carlin said:
I've been hearing this same old trope ever since Obama was running in 2008. Anything to create a boogeyman for your base to rally around.


Isn't this the Dems saying this about themselves and their own plans?
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In reply to tmaggies • 1:01p, 4/17/26
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tmaggies said:
Civil War

Hope not
Rather see a peaceful separation
So much wasted money
Dems don't care about the USA… just power
20 million illegals under Biden came in…Dem voters every one. That's why they fight ice so hard.

Time to get a divorce (peaceful)
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1:12p, 4/17/26
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Expanding & packing the SCOTUS may happen, but I seriously doubt it.

Adding new states will never happen.
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In reply to Look Out Below • 1:14p, 4/17/26
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Look Out Below said:
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There's also a reason 20 million votes disappeared since then

Could you explain this a little further?

This should be self-explanatory. Really.
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In reply to 74Ag1 • 1:17p, 4/17/26
74Ag1 said:
tmaggies said:
Civil War

Hope not
Rather see a peaceful separation
So much wasted money
Dems don't care about the USA… just power
20 million illegals under Biden came in…Dem voters every one. That's why they fight ice so hard.

Time to get a divorce (peaceful)




This. And it needs to happen under Trump.
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In reply to DTP02 • 1:18p, 4/17/26
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Dan Carlin said:
I've been hearing this same old trope ever since Obama was running in 2008. Anything to create a boogeyman for your base to rally around.


Isn't this the Dems saying this about themselves and their own plans?



Carville is GOP operative in disguise.
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1:23p, 4/17/26
F it… let's go to 13 now and split Oklahoma in to two states… Texas as well..
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1:27p, 4/17/26
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Regarding PR, are we even sure they want to be a state? In the past, they've said no way to that.
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In reply to YouBet • 1:29p, 4/17/26
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YouBet said:
Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
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The conservative movement including MAGA wants the Constitution followed

No they don't. They only want it followed when it suits them - otherwise they're happy to trash it just like liberals.

Citations please.

We could start with FISA 702.

Which is currently failing to pass reauthorization without additional protective amendments for US citizens that many Republicans are pushing for. So, you might be able to strike this from the list soon.

No thanks to MAGA though. There are 20 R (not what I would call "many") reps who voted against it in the dead of night last night that I am sure Mr MAGA himself will start trashing shortly.
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In reply to Ag83 • 1:30p, 4/17/26
Ag83 said:
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The conservative movement including MAGA wants the Constitution followed

No they don't. They only want it followed when it suits them - otherwise they're happy to trash it just like liberals.


Evidence?
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In reply to YouBet • 1:33p, 4/17/26
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YouBet said:
Regarding PR, are we even sure they want to be a state? In the past, they've said no way to that.

You know it would make the Lefties' heads pop off?

When they insist on making Puerto Rico a state, we should insist on making Cuba a state.

The people of Cuba won't vote Democrat for another 200 years.

Watch them try to argue that.
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1:35p, 4/17/26
You remember when crazy Dems were all "Trump will try to make it so he will be President forever and will do anything to suspend the election and stay in the White House"? And everyone here made fun of their TDS and how ridiculous it was?

This thread amuses me.
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In reply to Jinx • 1:38p, 4/17/26
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Jinx said:
You remember when crazy Dems were all "Trump will try to make it so he will be President forever and will do anything to suspend the election and stay in the White House"? And everyone here made fun of their TDS and how ridiculous it was?


Pepperidge Farm remembers
This thread amuses me.
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In reply to Ag83 • 1:42p, 4/17/26
Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
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The conservative movement including MAGA wants the Constitution followed

No they don't. They only want it followed when it suits them - otherwise they're happy to trash it just like liberals.

Citations please.

We could start with FISA 702.

Wrong
You're confusing FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, with FISA 702, the Foreign Collection
  • When the Dirty Cop, James Comey, the failed Head of the FBI, went after me, he was using FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, not FISA 702, the Foreign Collection, which needs to be extended today.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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In reply to Jinx • 1:45p, 4/17/26
Jinx said:
You remember when crazy Dems were all "Trump will try to make it so he will be President forever and will do anything to suspend the election and stay in the White House"? And everyone here made fun of their TDS and how ridiculous it was?

This thread amuses me.


Lol, these are Dems saying what THEY will do. I shouldn't have to explain the difference but will if you want. HTH
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In reply to Ag98and03 • 1:49p, 4/17/26
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Ag98and03 said:
The title could literally take out Dems and put in Rs and it would describe the current situation.

MAGA fully wants to be in charge forever. They don't want to compromise. They don't respect different views.

They want MAGA forever.

So acting surprised if Democrats did similar is just -odd. A not surprising lack of self-awareness.

I can't believe there are 12 people blue star posters that are uninformed. So what Democrat views should us "Maga folks" respect? What have we done to hurt your feelings? Seriously, what policies do you dislike?
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In reply to stallion6 • 1:52p, 4/17/26
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stallion6 said:
Ag98and03 said:
The title could literally take out Dems and put in Rs and it would describe the current situation.

MAGA fully wants to be in charge forever. They don't want to compromise. They don't respect different views.

They want MAGA forever.

So acting surprised if Democrats did similar is just -odd. A not surprising lack of self-awareness.

I can't believe there are 12 people blue star posters that are uninfromed. So what Democrat views should us "Maga folks" respect? What have we done to hurt your feelings? Seriously, what policies do you dislike?


They REALLY don't like trying to confirm only citizens vote in elections or even confirming the person voting is actually who they say they are. Those ideas are attempts to stay in power forever. And racist. And sexist. And against the alphabets somehow too.
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In reply to stallion6 • 1:56p, 4/17/26
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stallion6 said:
Ag98and03 said:
The title could literally take out Dems and put in Rs and it would describe the current situation.

MAGA fully wants to be in charge forever. They don't want to compromise. They don't respect different views.

They want MAGA forever.

So acting surprised if Democrats did similar is just -odd. A not surprising lack of self-awareness.

I can't believe there are 12 people blue star posters that are uninfromed. So what Democrat views should us "Maga folks" respect? What have we done to hurt your feelings? Seriously, what policies do you dislike?

They hate border control and want ability to mutilate children.

Democrats are incompatible at this point. Just completely insane party now.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 2:02p, 4/17/26
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Logos Stick said:
74Ag1 said:
tmaggies said:
Civil War

Hope not
Rather see a peaceful separation
So much wasted money
Dems don't care about the USA… just power
20 million illegals under Biden came in…Dem voters every one. That's why they fight ice so hard.

Time to get a divorce (peaceful)




This. And it needs to happen under Trump.

1st proposed split 2024 map
We could offer to buy CO and NM or annex them
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In reply to richardag • 2:14p, 4/17/26
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richardag said:
Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
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The conservative movement including MAGA wants the Constitution followed

No they don't. They only want it followed when it suits them - otherwise they're happy to trash it just like liberals.

Citations please.

We could start with FISA 702.

Wrong
You're confusing FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, with FISA 702, the Foreign Collection
  • When the Dirty Cop, James Comey, the failed Head of the FBI, went after me, he was using FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, not FISA 702, the Foreign Collection, which needs to be extended today.

what does that have to do with 702? And Trump can "give up" his rights if he wants but he has no authority to give up mine. To claim he (or MAGA in general) are some Constitutional defenders is beyond ridiculous.

Please try to discuss without copying/pasting Trump's social media posts.
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In reply to Ag83 • 2:22p, 4/17/26
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Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
Quote:
The conservative movement including MAGA wants the Constitution followed

No they don't. They only want it followed when it suits them - otherwise they're happy to trash it just like liberals.

Citations please.

We could start with FISA 702.

Wrong
You're confusing FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, with FISA 702, the Foreign Collection
  • When the Dirty Cop, James Comey, the failed Head of the FBI, went after me, he was using FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, not FISA 702, the Foreign Collection, which needs to be extended today.

what does that have to do with 702? And Trump can "give up" his rights if he wants but he has no authority to give up mine. To claim he (or MAGA in general) are some Constitutional defenders is beyond ridiculous.

Please try to discuss without copying/pasting Trump's social media posts.

You comment makes no sense. Are you saying Trump created FISA 702?
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In reply to Ag83 • 2:23p, 4/17/26
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Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
Quote:
The conservative movement including MAGA wants the Constitution followed

No they don't. They only want it followed when it suits them - otherwise they're happy to trash it just like liberals.

Citations please.

We could start with FISA 702.

Wrong
You're confusing FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, with FISA 702, the Foreign Collection
  • When the Dirty Cop, James Comey, the failed Head of the FBI, went after me, he was using FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, not FISA 702, the Foreign Collection, which needs to be extended today.

what does that have to do with 702? And Trump can "give up" his rights if he wants but he has no authority to give up mine. To claim he (or MAGA in general) er some Constitutional defenders is beyond ridiculous.


How is "MAGA" actively working to degrade the Constitution? The most high profile way to actually do that is to put people on the SC that are not Constitutionalists since that is the ultimate authority in the land on the topic. His picks have all been in this mold and he doesn't always get rulings he likes as a result.

Meanwhile, Biden puts the worst candidate in American history (a low IQ, DEI hire) on the SC and her own side has had to lambast her idiocy in actual opinions. Because she has little understanding of law and the Constitution and has ruled directly against it.
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In reply to Ag98and03 • 2:33p, 4/17/26
Ag98and03 said:
The title could literally take out Dems and put in Rs and it would describe the current situation.

MAGA fully wants to be in charge forever. They don't want to compromise. They don't respect different views.

They want MAGA forever.

So acting surprised if Democrats did similar is just -odd. A not surprising lack of self-awareness.


Forgive the right for not wanting to compromise with or give power to a bunch of ret@rded socialists/communists.
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In reply to AgNav93 • 3:11p, 4/17/26
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Trump went from 74 million votes in 2020 to 77 million in 2024
Dems went from 81 million in 2020 to 74 million in 2024
Where are you getting 20 million missing votes?

Also seems ironic that Biden let in tens of millions of illegals over four years yet they got 7 million less votes in 2024?
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3:16p, 4/17/26
Serpent Head is such an evil little snake!!!
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In reply to Look Out Below • 3:16p, 4/17/26
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Also seems ironic that Biden let in tens of millions of illegals over four years yet they got 3 million less votes in 2024?


That's because those illegals weren't meant for votes right away. Sure, they see them as votes in the future(possible amnesty or their anchor baby offspring), but in the short term, those millions of illegals were brought in to boost representation numbers for blue states because of our stupid census laws.
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In reply to stallion6 • 3:33p, 4/17/26
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stallion6 said:
Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
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The conservative movement including MAGA wants the Constitution followed

No they don't. They only want it followed when it suits them - otherwise they're happy to trash it just like liberals.

Citations please.

We could start with FISA 702.

Wrong
You're confusing FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, with FISA 702, the Foreign Collection
  • When the Dirty Cop, James Comey, the failed Head of the FBI, went after me, he was using FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, not FISA 702, the Foreign Collection, which needs to be extended today.

what does that have to do with 702? And Trump can "give up" his rights if he wants but he has no authority to give up mine. To claim he (or MAGA in general) are some Constitutional defenders is beyond ridiculous.

Please try to discuss without copying/pasting Trump's social media posts.

You comment makes no sense. Are you saying Trump created FISA 702?

Huh? Why does that matter? Has he been advocating for clean extension of it (pro tip : answer is "yes")? Why does it matter if he created it or not?
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In reply to Logos Stick • 4:40p, 4/17/26
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But they won't.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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In reply to annie88 • 5:37p, 4/17/26
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But they won't.


If I had told you before Biden took office that the Dems would open the borders and let in 15 million illegals, you would have told me I was FOS and to take my meds.

They will do it. They were two votes away from doing it under Biden.

Wake up! This is not your father's Dem party. SMH
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In reply to Logos Stick • 6:06p, 4/17/26
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Logos Stick said:
annie88 said:
But they won't.


If I had told you before Biden took office that the Dems would open the borders and let in 15 million illegals, you would have told me I was FOS and to take my meds.

They will do it. They were two votes away from doing it under Biden.

Wake up! This is not your father's Dem party. SMH


They're finally starting to be cracked down on bit by a bit. This isn't even four years ago. They're not getting away with the **** they even did then. And believe me I know this is not any democrat party I've ever encountered in my life. They're ****ing insane now.

And honestly, what we got from the Biden administration was exactly what I expected. I'm not sure why it surprised you given their ****ed up rhetoric leading up to that especially during Trump's first term. You could absolutely see it coming. Again they're ****ing insane.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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In reply to Ag83 • 7:17p, 4/17/26
Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
richardag said:
Ag83 said:
Quote:
The conservative movement including MAGA wants the Constitution followed

No they don't. They only want it followed when it suits them - otherwise they're happy to trash it just like liberals.

Citations please.

We could start with FISA 702.

Wrong
You're confusing FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, with FISA 702, the Foreign Collection
  • When the Dirty Cop, James Comey, the failed Head of the FBI, went after me, he was using FISA Title I, the Domestic Collection, not FISA 702, the Foreign Collection, which needs to be extended today.

what does that have to do with 702? And Trump can "give up" his rights if he wants but he has no authority to give up mine. To claim he (or MAGA in general) are some Constitutional defenders is beyond ridiculous.

Please try to discuss without copying/pasting Trump's social media posts.

Can't help if you can't see the difference.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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