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In reply to EliteElectric • 9:58a, 1/19/26
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EliteElectric said:
For sure. he should have ate several of those, especially the one where the TE fell down and he just panicked and threw it up for grabs.

I use to think he was just young and would grow out of it, now I am realizing he's just dumb.

if he had eaten the two horrid interceptions, including the pick 6, we stood a really good chance of winning that game
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In reply to CharleyKerfeld • 10:00a, 1/19/26
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ArcticPenguin said:
BayAg_14 said:
Jerrod Johnson might be fired today or tomorrow.

Not sure how it is his fault that CJ can't throw the ball in front of instead of behind his WRs

When you're someone's manager and they get worse and worse at the job that you're supposed to be coaching them at, it usually doesn't go well for you.

Yesterday, Choke Job Stroud showed us a good rendition of what would have happened if David Carr had ever made the playoffs.

As annoying as Aikman might have sounded yesterday, I felt he really held his tongue. CJ was a total joke yesterday and should have been pulled after INT #3 when we still had half a chance. Demeco leaving him is jsut as inexcusable as Stroud's play.

Jerrod being the fall guy wouldn't surprise me. I think Caley should be gone too but I highly doubt that happens.
My dream scenario is that we get some more experience on the offensive staff, something that Demeco should've done on day one.
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In reply to CharleyKerfeld • 10:08a, 1/19/26
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Will get Bingo money collected and sent out this week.

As always, it's a pleasure to stagger through another season of Houston sports with you lot.

Let me know how to pay.
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10:30a, 1/19/26
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We are also potentially looking at a situation where both Schultz and Stover are out for the year... That leaves Jordan as the only TE under contract, and he is coming off 2 ACL tears.

TE with experience is a need this offseason.
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In reply to gambochaman • 10:33a, 1/19/26
if he'd eaten them Texans would have won the game!
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In reply to The Beef01 • 11:10a, 1/19/26
Nick Casserio - John Carroll University, New England Patriots hired Nick Caley - John Carroll University. , New England Patriots. I don't trust Casserio to expand his vision beyond his comfort zone. Do you think Casserio would make a bold move and go after a top OC like Joe Brady whose HC just got fired? Texans need a more innovative OC than Caley. And yes, CJ is a problem as well.
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In reply to Johnsy3 • 11:29a, 1/19/26
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Harry Dunne said:
Stroud ain't the one.

Kirk Cousins 2.0


If Kirk is our QB we win that game handily

Fair enough. I was being overly generous. There have historically been so many Stroud lovers I thought I was going to get killed for this take but I guess everyone has seen what they need to see.

Good but not elite. Bad in must-win moments. About to get paid like a franchise QB but playoff performance will never match regular season performance.
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In reply to 12Power • 11:30a, 1/19/26
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Spot on. It's time for a new GM and completely new offensive staff.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 11:38a, 1/19/26
LB12Diamond said:
Harry Dunne said:
Stroud ain't the one.

Kirk Cousins 2.0

David Carr 2.0, He's afraid to get hit, clearly playing scared so he rushes things and makes bad decisions and throws.

The more I think about this, Stroud's play probably has made it a very easy decision to go another route at QB.

Overly harsh. You couldn't win a SB with Carr no matter what you put around him.

Stroud compares with lightning in a bottle guys like Nick Foles, Brad Johnson etc. who could win if everything around them was perfect but we can't hope and pray that's going to happen and expect to have a realistic chance to win it all.

Not purely to be a silver linings guy but it's almost better this way. If he has a slightly better game and we win then we probably beat the Stidham Broncos and now he's viewed as a "Superbowl QB" but is actually still the same guy he ever was. Now he's got one year to really "prove it".

Would hope we would use one of those picks after the first 3 to take a chance on a QB.
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In reply to ATM9000 • 11:44a, 1/19/26
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W said:
the worst thing in sports -- pro or college -- is to be stuck in the "good to very good" range

but never great


Absolutely not. Good to very good is still more fun than watching or experiencing being really bad.

For me it comes down to whether its good to very good with hope to be great (like I thought we were) or good to very good but locked into guys (whether that's players, coaches or admin) that aren't ever going to get it done.

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11:49a, 1/19/26
This team doesn't need a great QB to win a title with this defense just a steady, competent one who can protect the ball and bridge the gap until a new one is ready.

Too bad Stroud doubled down yesterday when all he needed to do was make a few plays and not turn it over.
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12:00p, 1/19/26
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take a flyer on mac jones. if nothing else it adds to the QB room.
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12:04p, 1/19/26
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Caley isn't going anywhere.

They're not going to put CJ in his 3rd offensive system in 3 years when they need to use next year to evaluate him for an extension.

Even if they've already decided he ain't it they're not gonna waste his last year on his rookie contract learning yet again a new system.

IMO not justified and a bad idea but I could see Jerrod being the scape goat here.
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In reply to Mr. Awesome Time • 12:06p, 1/19/26
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Mr. Awesome Time said:
This team doesn't need a great QB to win a title with this defense just a steady, competent one who can protect the ball and bridge the gap until a new one is ready.

His name is Davis Mills. 3-0 this year without the short internal clock panicked giveaways.
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In reply to Texan_Aggie • 12:09p, 1/19/26
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Texan_Aggie said:
We are also potentially looking at a situation where both Schultz and Stover are out for the year... That leaves Jordan as the only TE under contract, and he is coming off 2 ACL tears.

TE with experience is a need this offseason.

why would Schultz be out for the year?
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12:17p, 1/19/26
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I ****in hate cj stroud and we're stuck with him. what an absolute waste man
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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In reply to Aggie95 • 12:18p, 1/19/26
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"Calf Injury"... We've seen a lot of Achilles, so I hope its not that. The fact he didn't try to come back in has be concerned.
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In reply to Texan_Aggie • 12:20p, 1/19/26
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He grabbed his upper calf and walked out on his own.

He will be fine.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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12:32p, 1/19/26
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What if someone had said 2 years ago that you'd say Hell Yes to a straight up trade of CJ to the Panthers for Bryce Young?
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In reply to Aust Ag • 12:33p, 1/19/26
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What if someone had said 2 years ago that you'd say Hell Yes to a straight up trade of CJ to the Panthers for Bryce Young?

how about neither?
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12:35p, 1/19/26
Comparing CJ to David Carr is like people who think Christian Walker is as bad 1B for the Astros as Jose Abreu.

David Carr is the worst player we've ever had and one of the worst players ever. Stroud has talent, he just is broken somewhere inside. Carr's single season high in touchdowns was 16 1 a game. His rookie year he got sacked 76 times and fumbled 21 times. He probably took away 20-30 touchdowns from Andre Johnson's career

Just to clear, CJ needs to go regardless. The team had nothing to lose his first year and they had a nice stretch of fun comebacks and he looked great. But he's definitely regressing. 23-5 (TD/INT) to 20-12 to 19-8. Injuries to your WRs suck, but the other guys can catch if you throw it to them. If you're not going to get rid of him, bring in a vet and/or draft a rookie and make it an closed-door open competition for the job.

The sticking with our guy line is BS. If our left tackle had given up 4 sacks in a half, he'd have been pulled. if a DB got called for 4 red zone pass intereference calls he would have been pulled. Davis Mills should have been given a couple of series to see what he could have done.
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In reply to GoAgs92 • 12:36p, 1/19/26
GoAgs92 said:
I guess a crappy score on the NFL cognitive test does matter.

18% on the test...woof.

Hope he can turn it around next year.


S2 Cognition Test - Newer, measures spatial awareness, motor sequencing, distraction control, processing speed, etc., aiming to predict QB success.
  • Scores (e.g., 80+ elite) are relative to other prospects.
  • Bryce Young (98th percentile) and Will Levis (93rd) scored high, while C.J. Stroud's reported low score (18th percentile) was controversial.
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In reply to oh no • 12:37p, 1/19/26
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Well, one you can see the improvement, the other…not so much.
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In reply to CharleyKerfeld • 12:47p, 1/19/26
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Comparing CJ to David Carr is like people who think Christian Walker is as bad 1B for the Astros as Jose Abreu.

David Carr is the worst player we've ever had and one of the worst players ever. Stroud has talent, he just is broken somewhere inside. Carr's single season high in touchdowns was 16 1 a game. His rookie year he got sacked 76 times and fumbled 21 times. He probably took away 20-30 touchdowns from Andre Johnson's career

Just to clear, CJ needs to go regardless. The team had nothing to lose his first year and they had a nice stretch of fun comebacks and he looked great. But he's definitely regressing. 23-5 (TD/INT) to 20-12 to 19-8. Injuries to your WRs suck, but the other guys can catch if you throw it to them. If you're not going to get rid of him, bring in a vet and/or draft a rookie and make it an closed-door open competition for the job.

The sticking with our guy line is BS. If our left tackle had given up 4 sacks in a half, he'd have been pulled. if a DB got called for 4 red zone pass intereference calls he would have been pulled. Davis Mills should have been given a couple of series to see what he could have done.

Now I think you're being overly harsh in the other direction.

Not to waste too much time rehashing Carr and I agree he was nowhere near the same universe as Stroud, but he also wasn't "one of the worst players ever". He was overrated for sure, but he was also a victim of circumstance and ended up like a beat dog. He was never going to be a HOFer but he could have definitely turned out more like his brother or at least a decent NFL QB if he hadn't been led to the slaughter.
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In reply to Aust Ag • 12:58p, 1/19/26
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Aust Ag said:
Well, one you can see the improvement, the other…not so much.

Bryce was indeed less terrible this year than last year, but he's still pretty bad. He's very inaccurate. I agree that CJ seems to have regressed over the past two years while Bryce couldn't get any worse than last year. I just think both are bad. Maybe Bryce is less accurate but also less risky with the ball - better at taking sacks or throwing it away instead of giving the ball to the other team, which would be good enough to win with our defense. I'd prefer to stay away from both. Obviously your postulation would have seemed insane two years ago, but I don't think it's a resounding "hell yes" on a two year look-back right now. Bryce Young still throws so many bad balls.
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1:26p, 1/19/26
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In reply to CharleyKerfeld • 1:28p, 1/19/26
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You completely missed the reason he's being called Carr 2.0.

He's playing scared just like Carr and it's resulting in horrible play just like it did for Carr.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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In reply to 12Power • 1:29p, 1/19/26
12Power said:
Nick Casserio - John Carroll University, New England Patriots hired Nick Caley - John Carroll University. , New England Patriots. I don't trust Casserio to expand his vision beyond his comfort zone. Do you think Casserio would make a bold move and go after a top OC like Joe Brady whose HC just got fired? Texans need a more innovative OC than Caley. And yes, CJ is a problem as well.


Part of the problem with "smartest" people like Casserio is when they have to own up to making a mistake. I don't see him making a change at OC because back to back cannings call into question his ability to identify staff. I mean you dont even hire Slowik and Caley with a first time HC and "franchise" QB unless your just so damn smart you see what everyone else thinks is folly.

Just like unless Cal puts his game console down and mandates it, it wouldn't really shock me to see him extend Stroud. He is the smartest guy and sometimes genius just takes time.

Remember his comments about the OL to start the season?
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In reply to 5 Dollar Footlong • 1:42p, 1/19/26
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Remember his comments about the OL to start the season?


What about it?

The OL shouldn't be used an argument against Caserio. The OL actually turned around the 2nd half of the season and seems like there's enough there to work with.

The retooling and trading Tunsil for draft picks may actually work out.
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1:53p, 1/19/26
"Keep your head up. I love you. I got your back."

DeMeco telling Stroud this at halftime yesterday indicates to me:

1. Both are soft.
2. DeMeco is more concerned with Stroud's psyche than objectively looking at how to win that game.
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In reply to oh no • 1:58p, 1/19/26
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Well, maybe "Hell yeah" might have been too much, but it's starting to look like they'll get the last laugh (after being ridiculed those first 2 years).

Found this interesting excerpt from SI....they are advocating to extend him.

When Young continues to get better, he will quickly outplay that value, making him a strong investment. Is Young ever going to be the best QB in the NFL? Probably not, but that ultimately saves the Panthers money.
They can continue to surround him with weapons with that money, which will make the team better despite not having a Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen making boatloads of money at QB.


Plus, the alternatives don't make a lot of sense. Barring a huge regression in 2026, the Panthers won't have a good chance at drafting a successor in 2027 or 2028, and the free-agent option isn't ideal, either.


We can relate to this , but at least they have improvement to be hopeful about. We could be stuck in Steeler-land with a yearly QB quandary, never being bad enough to get a Top 3 QB in the draft. Even if we were to get a top QB, that defense has an extremely small window of greatness....not wanting to wait 2-3 years for QB maturity.
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2:25p, 1/19/26
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2:28p, 1/19/26
Texans coaches and GM believing Stroud will become a Super Bowl caliber quarterback each year is like Elko & staff believing Reed will become an accurate passer.
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In reply to eATMup-Reveille • 2:48p, 1/19/26
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Another weird vent.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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In reply to Harry Stone • 2:54p, 1/19/26
Harry Stone said:
take a flyer on mac jones. if nothing else it adds to the QB room.


Or even mariota or cousins(assuming he gets released)


Do something to have a backup plan bc Davis mills ain't it


Give Cj a short leash going into final year of rookie contract, but have a vet ready to go if he chooses to suck ass again
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