Yeah, it's not on there. You'll have to look elsewhere for it.

Sometimes it shows up as GLP-3 on other sites.

I used onyx research for Reta and have been happy with it/them. Had it last time I looked

Great, appreciate it!

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Great, appreciate it!

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Peptira has it as well. I'm taking it right now. And it seems to be working.

I used Peptride Crafters out of Dallas. Been really pleased with them. Taking Reta and Tesa from them

Went down a rabbit hole last night, I assume everyone just trusts that what is being injected is safe and not contaminated?

Read a few articles that a lot of these research peptides have been tested and heavy metals (lead, arsenic, etc) were found. Obviously they are not regulated and are being sold as 'research only' and 'not for human use', and the websites say they use 3rd party testing, but does anyone have confirmation what is being injected isn't contaminated?

A bit nervous with basically zero regulation of what is being sold through these websites. I see they have COAs from labs, but not sure how legit any of that actually is.

All of what you said is true but you can take extra steps to feel better about it. Don't just trust a COA go to the actual testing website and find the actual COA. Google and search the heck out of a provider to find bad experiences. People love to talk about this stuff if there's something bad you'll find it. I searched for months before I jumped in. Got multiple blood work done that's very detailed to see if anything is off. Only major improvements. I've only bought from Peptira and Glacier Aminos and haven't had any issues with either. I'm on Reta, Ghkcu, and KPV and all seem to be working for what i want them to do. You just have to find something you're comfortable with and if you're not don't do it.

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Went down a rabbit hole last night, I assume everyone just trusts that what is being injected is safe and not contaminated?

Read a few articles that a lot of these research peptides have been tested and heavy metals (lead, arsenic, etc) were found. Obviously they are not regulated and are being sold as 'research only' and 'not for human use', and the websites say they use 3rd party testing, but does anyone have confirmation what is being injected isn't contaminated?

A bit nervous with basically zero regulation of what is being sold through these websites. I see they have COAs from labs, but not sure how legit any of that actually is.

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The CEO of Janoshik, one of the most-trusted testing labs, said the heavy metal scare wasn't really a thing, based on his company's data.

Everything i have read Janoshik (and every other lab) is testing for purity, and heavy metals testing is a different test. They are also not an ISO/IEC 17025 accredited laboratory.

Has anyone gotten their peptides from a compound pharmacy? I just don't trust anything that could be coming from China and not being fully tested.

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Everything i have read Janoshik (and every other lab) is testing for purity, and heavy metals testing is a different test. They are also not an ISO/IEC 17025 accredited laboratory.

Has anyone gotten their peptides from a compound pharmacy? I just don't trust anything that could be coming from China and not being fully tested.

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Pretty sure all these peptides are coming from china.



Conclusions were they were all pretty much the same and likely came from the same supplier in China.

Unfortunately, if you are going to chose to use these "research" products in a "prohibited" manner based on "independent" unverified data, you probably just have to be willing to take that risk. I sincerely doubt the any compounding pharmacy is acquiring the raw materials from super secret verified source. They are getting them from the same places, compounding them and marking it up to sell to consumers.

Personally, I accept that pretty much all "supplements" are equally unregulated (by design by corporations lobbies paying off our stellarly ethical political leaders) and they are essentially "use at your own risk" products. But hey, so are many if not most of the approved pharmaceutical medications -statins almost killed me.

In my old age I have decided that a certain amount of this risk is worth it to me. Everyone gets to make their own choice. If you are not okay with the risk, which is perfectly valid, these research product are probably not for you, as there is absolutely no way you will be able to find truly completely verified safe to ingest products.

I suppose I should have clarified, a lot of these are approved and are being prescribed, and maybe I assumed incorrectly, but I would have thought a legit pharmacy would use material that has been rigorously tested vs a website that sends samples to a dude named Peter Magic in Czechoslovakia.

If that is the case and anyone is getting these from a legit source I would like to know. I would pay extra knowing I'm not injecting lead, arsenic, etc.

Double post

That's fair. And you are right that it is a reasonable concern.

I tend to question a lot of these online prescribers and pharmacies. Theoretically there is oversight I guess, but does it happen proactively or reactively?

I have been trying to only use the sources that the folks who seem really into the weeds on it seem to have vetted. As opposed to whoever comes up cheapest on Google.

That's the thing though, nobody legitimate is allowed to prescribe these right now.

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That's the thing though, nobody legitimate is allowed to prescribe these right now.

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Some of the things can be prescribed off label, can't they?

Not really. Compounding pharmacies will hopefully be allowed to make them again after July, but Tesamorelin for instance cannot be prescribed except for HIV patients suffering from lipodystrophy.

Just curious what's your thoughts on MOTS-C

I've run it for a bit and have never felt a thing. High dosage too. My cardio has improved so maybe it's helping, but the community opinion on it is it's something you may not necessarily feel working. For some they can feel every bit of it. I'm taking 5mg 30 minutes before cardio.

I have been running it too. I take a preworkout so not sure if my energy is MOTS-C or just normal pre-workout/l-carnitine

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I have been trying to only use the sources that the folks who seem really into the weeds on it seem to have vetted. As opposed to whoever comes up cheapest on Google.

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This is my method as well.

Per this thread, seems to be peptira. Is that correct?

Just received a batch of ipa/tesa from biolongevity labs. It looks pretty sketchy. It's not a powder. It ball shaped clumps. I'm going to see if it looks normal and clear once I add Bac water but not really looking forward to pumping this stuff into my body.

Maybe just eat the $100 bucks I spent on it? I doubt this place has any sort of refund policy.

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Per this thread, seems to be peptira. Is that correct?

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Well, I was going to say Biolongevity Labs has been my main spot to go, but I definitely haven't had any of the issues the poster above just mentioned. I do think they will probably make it right though. Jay's whole schtick is to be the "Amazon of biohacking", so they should back up bad product.

As I mentioned in the post before, I would reach out and ask them to make it right.

Pucks are normal. BLL is legit although annoying with their marketing and their new Follistatin BS.

You should be fine man. Although if you're the anxious type, the peptide game might not be for you. Or you can just send everything to janosik for testing to calm any fears you have.

Did you ship it with a cold pack? It costs more but it's starting to get hot out and I feel the cold pack shipping is worth the risk reduction of it denaturing .

No I didn't. But I don't think it was hot enough to cause any damage. If it's clear when I add Bac im just going to cycle it. I like the advice earlier: if you're too scared you're probably not ready for it.

Where is everyone's go to on dosage and cycles? I have seen different places have different recommendations. Some say daily some say 5/2 the dosages vary too. Just curious. Trying to do lots of research but lots of information out there

TexAgs, of course.

Has anyone ever bought from Crush Research? Not a ton of inventory but pricing, testing, and reviews all look great

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Where is everyone's go to on dosage and cycles? I have seen different places have different recommendations. Some say daily some say 5/2 the dosages vary too. Just curious. Trying to do lots of research but lots of information out there

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For which peptide?

I have seen different protocols for MOTS-C, CJC, and GHK-CU.

Just wondering what's the best place that people trust other than texags of course.

Sorry... My actual recommendation is to go to Hunter Williams' website and put in your email to get his peptide cheat sheet. Most of his protocols are solid, and then you can come back here and ask for feedback if you want as well...

https://hunterwilliamshealth.com/Home

Aside from MosesHallEnforcer on here, Hunter is my go-to for most of my peptide knowledge and research. So my other advice would be to find someone you like and trust and roll with it. None of this is an exact proven science.

I've only ran GHK-cu so I'll share what I've done. The two protocols most popular are 5 days on 2 off at 2mg nightly or just 7 on at 2mg.

I've ran 7 on but I do miss days time to time. I will say took me running for 6 weeks straight to notice anything. I'm at 10 weeks now and going 2 more before a month or two break. I've really noticed benefits since that 6 week mark tho even have had an ugly bumpy keloid scar go flat and clear up. Had scar for 10 years. It's crazy