*****Official World Cup 2018 Final: France v. Croatia Match Thread*****

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bigjag19 said:

3 minutes of stoppage with a long VAR and 3 goals including a penalty.

That makes perfect sense.
Something tells me that there will be 4-6 minutes of stoppage time in the second half.
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France got their butts handed to them that half and have a lead

Unbelievable
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Hey I made no such comments, that was a correct call on the PK
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They have a 2-1 lead with 1 shot.
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3 minutes was about right. You extend for excessive goal celebrations, extended injuries or substitutions. They had the VAR stoppage but that's about it.
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I hate replay in all sports. It ruins the game. I dont care if a bad call is made correct. Its part of the game. Good and bad calls have been apart of all sports since their inception. They are a part of the story and a part of the game. I guess replay is a perfect example of the current society's feelings on "fairness" and inability to handle adversity.

I especially hate the way replay is used in modern sports. If you going to use it, use it for all or use it for nothing. This game is a perfect example. The replay could have negated an illegitimate goal by reversing a bad call and then have correctly called the handball. Why is it not like this?

If the goal is ultimately to ensure the correct result, why not play the game and then adjust the final on review afterward?
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aggietony2010 said:

They have a 2-1 lead with 1 shot.
And none from play

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wangus12 said:

Mbappe learning from Neymar to go down way to easy


Just like with Neymar, I feel like players on opposing teams should actually crack the **** out of players that do that. I sure as hell did as a kid.

There should also be a committee that reviews games afterwards and hands out suspensions for blatant dives. Griezmann clearly dove and France scores off the ensuing free kick. We should have this crap affecting a world cup final. Hell VAR should be able to look at egregious dives during games.
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mathguy86 said:

Some of you crack me up. You want VAR to intervene to catch diving but don't want it to penalize blatant handling.


Everything was handled properly. There wouldn't be any controversy if the free kick hadn't turned into a goal. But the fact that VAR can overturn only some egregious errors and not others is the frustrating part.

There isn't a good way to handle it unfortunately.
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aggietony2010 said:

mathguy86 said:

Some of you crack me up. You want VAR to intervene to catch diving but don't want it to penalize blatant handling.


Everything was handled properly. There wouldn't be any controversy if the free kick hadn't turned into a goal. But the fact that VAR can overturn only some egregious errors and not others is the frustrating part.

There isn't a good way to handle it unfortunately.
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Retroactive cards for diving would end it quickly. Especially in a tournament environment.
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who?mikejones said:

I hate replay in all sports. It ruins the game. I dont care if a bad call is made correct. Its part of the game. Good and bad calls have been apart of all sports since their inception. They are a part of the story and a part of the game. I guess replay is a perfect example of the current society's feelings on "fairness" and inability to handle adversity.

I especially hate the way replay is used in modern sports. If you going to use it, use it for all or use it for nothing. This game is a perfect example. The replay could have negated an illegitimate goal by reversing a bad call and then have correctly called the handball. Why is it not like this?

If the goal is ultimately to ensure the correct result, why not play the game and then adjust the final on review afterward?


Disagree that it ruins it. To me taking controversy away makes the game MUCH better

But you are right thay it should be used for all or not at al
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gambochaman said:

who?mikejones said:

I hate replay in all sports. It ruins the game. I dont care if a bad call is made correct. Its part of the game. Good and bad calls have been apart of all sports since their inception. They are a part of the story and a part of the game. I guess replay is a perfect example of the current society's feelings on "fairness" and inability to handle adversity.

I especially hate the way replay is used in modern sports. If you going to use it, use it for all or use it for nothing. This game is a perfect example. The replay could have negated an illegitimate goal by reversing a bad call and then have correctly called the handball. Why is it not like this?

If the goal is ultimately to ensure the correct result, why not play the game and then adjust the final on review afterward?


Disagree that it ruins it. To me taking controversy away makes the game MUCH better

But you are right thay it should be used for all or not at al
So you just agreed that it ruins it

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who?mikejones said:

Retroactive cards for diving would end it quickly. Especially in a tournament environment.
Again, you are talking about rerefereeing a game. You just can't do that. What if that player you penalize after the game is given a second card? VAR is designed to catch the ones that most affect the game. The ones inside the area. Sometimes you think you see something and you get duped. It happens.
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who?mikejones said:

Retroactive cards for diving would end it quickly. Especially in a tournament environment.
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If i am a player, i will goadly take a retroactive card if it meant i win the world cup...
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Yet, here we are, debating controversial replay/non replay decisions.
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MookieBlaylock said:

gambochaman said:

who?mikejones said:

I hate replay in all sports. It ruins the game. I dont care if a bad call is made correct. Its part of the game. Good and bad calls have been apart of all sports since their inception. They are a part of the story and a part of the game. I guess replay is a perfect example of the current society's feelings on "fairness" and inability to handle adversity.

I especially hate the way replay is used in modern sports. If you going to use it, use it for all or use it for nothing. This game is a perfect example. The replay could have negated an illegitimate goal by reversing a bad call and then have correctly called the handball. Why is it not like this?

If the goal is ultimately to ensure the correct result, why not play the game and then adjust the final on review afterward?


Disagree that it ruins it. To me taking controversy away makes the game MUCH better

But you are right thay it should be used for all or not at al
So you just agreed that it ruins it




Lol what? No i didnt
I want it expanded to cover all fouls
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who?mikejones said:

Yet, here we are, debating controversial replay/non replay decisions.


There was nothing controversial about the ball handling PK
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It depends on timing. Sure, do it in the final and there really isnt punishment attached. Do it in the games leading up to the final and you wont be playing.

There are always times when one should dive. Like suarez's handball, sometimes the consequences are worth the action.
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I agree. It was a handball when you slow it down frame by frame.

But, many people disagree with you. And the first goal is still a major issue
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Suprising that France got a shot off

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Nice save by Lloris
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Why the hell not? You can and they have introduced all sorts of of things to help referees. Why not this?
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Lorris is on fire
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Have there been any crowd shots showing attractive female fans yet?

That's all I care about.
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Croatia is bossing this
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They nipped that.
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who?mikejones said:

I agree. It was a handball when you slow it down frame by frame.

But, many people disagree with you. And the first goal is still a major issue


Any i bet many people will have differing opinions on the first goal call. French player did get hit a bit in the leg. So you may have people saying that is enough to call the foul even though the french player when down easily. And you amy have a ref look at the VAR and stay with a foul call.

Oh, and it was a handball in regular speed to. Slow-mo just made it easier to see.
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gougler08 said:

Croatia is bossing this


They look angry.

I wonder hiw the gulags are this time of year?
HTownAg98
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Dammit, I was hoping for some Russian skull cracking.
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So... can we get a VAR on that?
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Well I'm gonna guess all the pitch invaders will be dumped in a river. Hope it was worth it hahahaha
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Mbappe did a good job staying on his feet there, there was some contact but don't think he would've gotten the call.
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Ugh Croatia might give one up on the break if they aren't careful
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fig96 said:

Mbappe did a good job staying on his feet there, there was some contact but don't think he would've gotten the call.


Just like Neymar he is really good when plays and doesn't flop
 
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