***** Spurs vs. Clippers - Round 2 *****

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**JUST MY OPINION. NOT TRYING TO TROLL**

In my personal opinion and what I believe to be general league-wide opinion, CP3 is a higher regarded PG than Parker. Whether he actually is or not when broken down category by category I guess is up for debate.

As most of you know, I'm a Bulls fan and the current Bulls roster is built around the PG position. If right now you told me I could replace Rose with any NBA PG, I would rank as follows:

1. R. Westbrook (partially because he's the most similar to Rose)
2. C. Paul
3. D. Williams
4. T. Parker

I also know that Rose regarded those four + Rondo as the elite PGs in the NBA and always elevated his game when he played them (lots of mutual respect).

Again, that's just my personal opinion. Not trying to troll.
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troll, how hasnt this clown been banned yet? vote it down. he said something other than the spurs.

also, deluxe we still on for beers later? will text u.
Enzo The Baker
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Simplebay
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he actually hates me. literally. he will confirm.
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Obi Wan Ginobili
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1) rose
2) westbrook
3) rondo
4) paul
5) parker

and honestly, i'm only putting parker behind paul because paul gets to the line so damned much. i can't fully blame him for taking advantage of the system with his flops. it's not his fault the league babies pg's.

if you want to sit and spew stats as the end all, be all, that's your prerogative, but my list is a hybrid of both stats and overall contributions and worth to the team. paul took a team with blake griffin and deandre jordan and only managed 40 wins. he's not a greek god. he's just a really really good pg who knows how to work the system.
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Obi Wan Ginobili
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i agree, but he's a good player.
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If building a team and I had a choice of PGs for next year, here's my rank, and D. Rose is omitted because of the uncertainty of his future, not because he's not top 5 worthy.

1) CP360 (I'm not sure there is any guard who plays the rules more than the Heliflopter. My least favorite player on this list, but defensively he is clearly better than anyone among the top PGs except Rondo).

2) Deron Williams - So hard to rank because he plays on a bad team. If he goes to a current playoff team for next year, look out.

3) Russell Westbrook - Highest ceiling, and gets better each year.

4) Tony Parker

5) Rajon Rondo - Good Rondo might be the top guy, but I'd still take the other 4.

(gap)

6) Steve Nash

Unknown from here, but of the young guys with 3 or fewer years, I think:
1) Kyrie Irving
2) John Wall
3) Ricky Rubio
4) Steph Curry
5) Tyreke Evans
6) Ty Lawson
6) Brandon Knight
7) Brandon Jennings

Not sure where to put Teague, Neal, Jrue
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I am going to start rooting for Memphis just so this thread can die.
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im defining it as quantifiable results over a period of time. and Paul clearly trounces Parker in every which way. and it's certainly a hell of lot more conclusive than "but, but, parker won 3 titles"

alright fine lets play your game. how about this year's stats alone?

Paul- 19.8ppg, 9.1apg, 3.6rpg, 86% FT, 37% 3pt, 48% FG
Parker- 18.3ppg, 7.7apg, 2.9rpg, 80% FT, 23% 3pt, 48% FG

so, yes, this year Chris Paul is dominating Tony Parker in both media perception (see: MVP race predictions), and is literally better than him statistically.


Parker got those very similar stats while playing 8 less minutes a game...
sharkenleo
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Manu just tweeted if the Clips win in 5 or 6, game 1 is Sunday at noon.

Why does the NBA insist on giving us that ****ty start time?
sharkenleo
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Now hoping Grizz push it to 6.
Sher Thing
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Game 1 is Sunday at noon (ghey) if Clippers end it in 5 or 6.

If Grizz push to 7 we get out of that horrible start time but the second round will now consist of a b2b being played.
aggie_2001_2005
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I'd rather Clipps end it now. The more time the spurs have to out scheme someone the better. If Memphis keeps it going, you can't really prep for one or the other.
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Per 48 minutes:
Paul:
26.2 points
47.8% / 37.1% / 86.1%
12.0 assists
4.4 a/t ratio

Parker:
27.4 points
48% / 23% / 79.9%
11.6 assists
3.0 a/t ratio

In PG stats/48 minutes, they are pretty even except in a/t ratio (but both are elite) and 3PT% (although Parker takes very few threes). Parker has 1.4 more ppg, Paul has .4 more assists per game.

Yes, I think Paul is a somewhat better PG than Parker, but they are both outstanding at the position and fit their respective teams' systems quite well.
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What about the PER per 48, because Paul blows him away on regular PER.
Sher Thing
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I'm sticking with my MEM in 7 prediction. They are going to win 3 straight and then come into our gym and give us all we can handle because we've been sitting for 8 freakin days.
aggie_2001_2005
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Spurs will beat either team in five. Not concerned at all. Memphis is a shell of what they were last year and spurs are on fire.
dreyOO
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this thread already sucks. start a new one for the series
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Wow, spurs fans have lost their minds again. Tony Parker better than Chris Paul? Are you ducking kidding me???!?!?!?!?
TheDino
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Don't get it started again Hotard. This thread is so ridiculous.
TheMasterplan
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Are we going to act like Tony Parker hasn't played with the best PF of all time and one of the better SGs of this day and age?

Pretty pathetic that people are comparing championships when Parker has had much, much superior teammates.
TheMasterplan
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Maybe I should make a new thread called, "How much do you spurs fans overrate Tony Parker?"
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I like how you start a thread about people overrating Manu then you state how good of teammates Tony has had.
Simplebay
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he said it was just to draw the trolls in. Although im sure when he started reading the "Manu is the #2 most exciting player of all time" talk....he prolly realized he wasnt that far off
TheMasterplan
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I like how you interpretate what I said to mean Manu sucks at basketball.
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This thread is beyond retarded.
sharkenleo
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I wish i had never created this infernal thread. I almost hope the grizzlies win so it can die.
TheDino
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Is there a way the thread can die and the Clippers still win?
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quote:
Is there a way the thread can die and the Clippers still win?


I sure hope so lol
Losman
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I want to see Spurs hammer somebody now!!!!!!
MookieBlaylock
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Roberts rule of order- new thread begins once the series ends and we get an opponent

all we need is a second
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Second
aggie_2001_2005
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aye aye aye aye aye aye aye [/texags]

nay [/simplygay]

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