Simplebay, I don't think there is anyone saying that Parker is better. Not sure why you have to make stuff up to prove your point.

I also don't think there is, many, if anyone, claiming that Parker is even as good as Paul. I think 99% of even spurs fans would rate Paul higher.

What people are trying to say is, that for what the spurs need Parker to do, and what the clippers need Paul to do, makes them pretty much a wash. I really don't understand how you can't figure out the difference.

And statistically, for this season, they are very close considering Parker plays less minutes. The only thing Paul is noticeably better at is 3 pointers.

Oh, and head to head, Parker is averaging 22, 9.5 assists, and a 6.3 assist to turnover ratio Like others have said, Parker/Paul is essentially a wash for this upcoming series. Parker will get the better of him a couple games, and Paul will get the better of Parker the others. They'll essentially take each other out of the equation and let the other players decide the outcome. Quite an easy concept to understand, even for a simple minded individual like yourself.

Parker is not better than Paul, he's not even as good, but for their respective teams, they basically cancel each other out.

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Wow, spurs fans have lost their minds again. Tony Parker better than Chris Paul? Are you ducking kidding me???!?!?!?!?

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Again, who the eff is claiming this?

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Again, who the eff is claiming this?

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No one is claiming anything of the sort. All the dolts out there say we "overrate" Parker when he is clearly in the highest tier of PG's in the league, and has the resume and rings to back it up.

Meanwhile, we have to hear about CP3 and how the Spurs would have been a "true" dynasty and the odds on favorite to win the next 3 titles if he played in silver and black. As if Tony Parker where some scrub who only benefited from being on good teams...

But alas, it is we who has lost our minds...

And Chris Paul clearly does not approve of this thread and is willing it to death...

"First in Sight, Ready to Fight"

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Looks like we'll need a new thread cuz it isn't going to be the clippers next round.

Don't ever say a team gonna win the game before the game is over!

Game 1: Spurs vs ___, Tuesday, 8:30 p.m., TNT

Game 2: Spurs vs ___, Thursday, 8:30 p.m., ESPN

Game 3: @Clippers or Grizzlies, Saturday, 2:30 pm., ABC

Game 4: @Clippers or Grizzlies, Sunday, 9:30 p.m. or 7 p.m., TNT

*Game 5: Spurs vs ___, May 22 (Tuesday), TNT

*Game 6: @Clippers or Grizzlies, May 24 (Thursday), ESPN

*Game 7: Spurs vs ___, May 27 (Sunday), TNT

I think the b2b will hurt the opponent way more than the Spurs, but it sucks that it's on the road.

Why Is there a back to back in the playoffs

what is truly gay is that they have two off days between game six and seven. just make every game every other day. stupid

im staying with spurs in five, even though my gut tells me four

Wow. Didn't see this happening.

Glad I was wrong though.

Clippers will be physically and mentally exhausted after Memphis. Add in Bulter's broken hand, Griffin's tweaked knee, and Paul's gimpy groin. Should be a sweep....

can we just cut to the chase and bring on the heat?

Sweep.

Back to back in the playoffs? Has this ever happened? Honest question. I've been watching basketball for a long time and I can't ever remember a back to back. Just stupid.

Anyway, I think the Spurs win the series in 6 games.

Back to back in the playoffs is just garbage

It happened in the 99 playoffs as well.

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Oh wow, it did? I'd totally forgotten about that, if so. I was only 10 though, so I doubt I was paying as much attention to series scheduling lol.

Oh, and Imma say Spurs in 5 (drop one of the games in LA), even though I know if they come out focused and realize there's blood already in the water with this team, they could easily sweep. Either way, just brush these guys aside asap so we'll be fresh come the WCF.

Let's start a new thread.

I also feel like it'll be a sweep.

RT @HowardBeckNYT: RT @timkawakami: RT @DailyNewsVinny Here at the game. Blake just told bench he can hardly move. left knee is an issue

Spurs in 5

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Exactly why I wanted the Clips to win.

The B2B is dumb. Why should teams like the Spurs and OKC be penalized for closing out a series earlier than others? But with that being said, it could play out to the Spurs' advantage.

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Really? I guess I was to young to remember haha
Either way, there is no need for back to backs in the playoffs

Spurs need to bring the hammer and my guess is that Pop will have them ready. Definitely need to go to LA with a 2-0 lead. Anxious to see how they come out of the gate on Tuesday night.

If Griffin is playing at 60-70%, it'll be a sweep. Without Griffin's athleticism, their front court scoring ability is quite limited (Not surprisingly, Del Negro hasn't really taught anybody anything).

Also, Paul and a squad of injured dudes that play mediocre D when healthy aren't going to keep the Spurs under 105, unless the Spurs have a really bad shooting night.

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First look by ESPN Los Angeles

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/clippers/post/_/id/2028/first-look-san-antonio-spurs

This surprised me the most.

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The first time the Clippers and Spurs played this season was telling, although it's important to note that the Clippers' construction has changed quite a bit since then. In that game, a 115-90 blowout Spurs home win on Dec. 28, Parker neutralized Paul and three Spurs scored at least 19 points.

In the second game, a 103-100 overtime San Antonio win in L.A. on Feb. 18, Parker outplayed Paul again and five other Spurs scored in double digits.

The third time the teams played, the Clippers won 120-108 in San Antonio in mid-March. But Parker didn't play in that game with a quad strain and Paul went off for 36 points and 11 assists.

As those games attest, one of the most troubling things about the Spurs matchup is that San Antonio has one of the only players in the NBA who can match Paul offensively and defensively on a night-to-night basis.

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I don't know what this guy is smoking. Everybody knows that Paul is the best point guard in the league and Parker is a scrub (we all watched Jason Kidd absolutely humiliate Parker in 2003). The only conclusion I can draw is that it was written by a Spurs fan

Paul is highly overrated and he plays like a little *****

He plays like a *****, but he's not overrated

I don't think Paul is really overrated, however one thing I've noticed about him in the Clips/Grizz series is that he isn't an entirely matured decision maker yet. He makes some poor decisions on the court in the name of "trying to make something happen".

In quarters 1-3 he's a wash with Parker, probably a little better. In quarter #4, I'd take Parker 10 times out of 10. You rarely see Parker doing dumb things at the end of games nowadays.

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Would it surprise you to find out then that Parker averages 4.1 turnovers and 6.8 assists per 48 minutes in clutch time and Paul averages 3.2 turnovers to 8.8 assists. Seems like your statement should be the other way around.

I'm not talking about turnovers per se. I've just watched CP3 chuck up some ill-advised shots with a hand in his face lately, or cheat an assignment on defense that resulted in an easy score for the Grizz. Also, regular season "per 48 in the clutch" stats are fairly meaningless, especially when you are talking about the difference of 0.9 turnovers.

As far as assists are concerned, Tony is the primary scorer for the Spurs in crunch time. You wouldn't expect him to get a lot of assists when he's scoring the ball every other trip down the floor. I see him finding open spots in the mid-range, coming off of screens and taking open shots. I see Chris Paul launching 3-pointers from 2 feet beyond the arc with a hand in his face and 20 seconds left on the shot clock.

It may be the result of the fact that the bulk of the offense is on CP3's shoulders and he's feeling the pressure, but it looks to me like he "presses" in the 4th quarters of games.

Sorry I have no numbers to demonstrate what I'm talking about.

Chris Paul scores more in crunch time than Tony Parker, too.

It's not that CP3 is overrated, it's that Parker is underrated. Also, something that many pundits and non-Spurs fans forget is that Parker always plays with a chip on his shoulder when his counterpart is more heralded. Almost every time he's gone up against Paul, Westbrook, Rondo, et al, Parker has played some of his best ball.