Good stuff
Here is what the final version of the five-team trade looks like, according to sources:
— Fred Katz (@FredKatz) August 5, 2021
Seven players
Rights to three more
Draft picks
Draft swaps
18 total trade pieces pic.twitter.com/6Uoy74XMcr
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It's hard to see the point of the DeMar DeRozan era in San Antonio now that it's over. The Spurs signed-and-traded the four-time All-Star to the Bulls for Thaddeus Young, Al-Farouq Aminu, and three future picks on Tuesday. It was the first step in a rebuild that should have begun three seasons ago. San Antonio wanted to remain competitive when Kawhi Leonard forced his way out in 2018, so it traded him and Danny Green to Toronto for DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl, and one first-round pick. But all that did was delay the inevitable. Now the Spurs are in a worse position than if they had let him walk for nothing.
It would be one thing if the Spurs had been a contender with DeRozan. Instead, they lost in the first round once and missed the playoffs the next two seasons. It has been a long way down for one of the NBA's most successful franchises. San Antonio had made the postseason for 21 straight years before Kawhi's departure. They went from David Robinson to Tim Duncan to Kawhi without missing a beat. A streak like that may never happen again. The Spurs did everything they could to keep it going under DeRozan. The problem was that no amount of coaching, continuity, or organizational knowledge could overcome a lack of star power.
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Their two point guards get in each other's way. Murray and White have the same strengths and weaknesses: Both are defensive-minded slashers who need the ball and aren't comfortable spotting up on the perimeter. White attempted a career-high 6.8 3s per game last season but made them at only a 34.6 percent clip. That still put him far ahead of Murray, one of the worst shooters at his position (31.7 percent from 3 on 3.0 attempts per game) in the league. Spurs shooting coach Chip Engelland played an important role in Kawhi's growth in that area in his time with the franchise, but lightning hasn't struck twice.
There were times in Murray's second season, in 2017-18, when he looked like a future star. But his development was derailed when he tore his ACL, and he hasn't gotten back on track. Now he's the worst of both worlds - he doesn't look capable of being a featured player, and his poor jumper makes everyone around him worse when he's in a secondary role. White is more well-rounded but lacks the elite athleticism or scoring ability of the top point guards in the NBA. He's a career 51.3 percent shooter from 2 and 35.7 percent from 3.
Source: Ben Simmons has cut off communication with basically everyone in the Sixers organization. Everything is going thru his agent, Rich Paul. Ben is open to going to the GSWs though he doesn’t have much leverage in the situation.
— Jason Dumas (@JDumasReports) August 5, 2021
On an unrelated note, I am open to dating supermodels though I don't have much leverage in the situation.Enzo The Baker said:Source: Ben Simmons has cut off communication with basically everyone in the Sixers organization. Everything is going thru his agent, Rich Paul. Ben is open to going to the GSWs though he doesn’t have much leverage in the situation.
— Jason Dumas (@JDumasReports) August 5, 2021
I bet Doc flies out to mend the relationship and he stays.
LawHall88 said:Quote:
It's hard to see the point of the DeMar DeRozan era in San Antonio now that it's over. The Spurs signed-and-traded the four-time All-Star to the Bulls for Thaddeus Young, Al-Farouq Aminu, and three future picks on Tuesday. It was the first step in a rebuild that should have begun three seasons ago. San Antonio wanted to remain competitive when Kawhi Leonard forced his way out in 2018, so it traded him and Danny Green to Toronto for DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl, and one first-round pick. But all that did was delay the inevitable. Now the Spurs are in a worse position than if they had let him walk for nothing.
It would be one thing if the Spurs had been a contender with DeRozan. Instead, they lost in the first round once and missed the playoffs the next two seasons. It has been a long way down for one of the NBA's most successful franchises. San Antonio had made the postseason for 21 straight years before Kawhi's departure. They went from David Robinson to Tim Duncan to Kawhi without missing a beat. A streak like that may never happen again. The Spurs did everything they could to keep it going under DeRozan. The problem was that no amount of coaching, continuity, or organizational knowledge could overcome a lack of star power.https://www.theringer.com/2021/8/5/22610653/san-antonio-spurs-demar-derozanQuote:
Their two point guards get in each other's way. Murray and White have the same strengths and weaknesses: Both are defensive-minded slashers who need the ball and aren't comfortable spotting up on the perimeter. White attempted a career-high 6.8 3s per game last season but made them at only a 34.6 percent clip. That still put him far ahead of Murray, one of the worst shooters at his position (31.7 percent from 3 on 3.0 attempts per game) in the league. Spurs shooting coach Chip Engelland played an important role in Kawhi's growth in that area in his time with the franchise, but lightning hasn't struck twice.
There were times in Murray's second season, in 2017-18, when he looked like a future star. But his development was derailed when he tore his ACL, and he hasn't gotten back on track. Now he's the worst of both worlds - he doesn't look capable of being a featured player, and his poor jumper makes everyone around him worse when he's in a secondary role. White is more well-rounded but lacks the elite athleticism or scoring ability of the top point guards in the NBA. He's a career 51.3 percent shooter from 2 and 35.7 percent from 3.
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It's time for San Antonio to get back to what made it great in the first placegetting lucky in the draft and winning the lotteries for David Robinson and Tim Duncan.
I want an All-NBA player and control of 7 first round draft picks at a minimum.Enzo The Baker said:
Lowe also said he wouldn't be surprised if we would be able to flip Thad for a 1st.
Enzo The Baker said:
Primo's got some good stuff. He'd probably be better off leading the team in Austin but damn. He can do things on the court that none of our current team can. It will be interesting if he can force is way on the first team. He's got about two and half months to put in some work before the season starts.
"Forget that, can we talk about Primo?"
— JeffGSpursKENS5 (@JeffGSpursZone) August 7, 2021
And here's Vassell just praising Primo.... 😁😁 #gospursgo #nba pic.twitter.com/uAOUgVuVR0
I'm feeling alot better and even optimistic about this pick.Enzo The Baker said:"Forget that, can we talk about Primo?"
— JeffGSpursKENS5 (@JeffGSpursZone) August 7, 2021
And here's Vassell just praising Primo.... 😁😁 #gospursgo #nba pic.twitter.com/uAOUgVuVR0
— Preine (@Hirschof) August 7, 2021
Only four people have won both Olympic gold and an NBA Championship as head coach:
— SB Nation (@SBNation) August 7, 2021
• Chuck Daly
• Lenny Wilkens
• Rudy Tomjanovich
• Gregg Popovich
Coach Pop's legacy keeps growing 🥇🏆 pic.twitter.com/kFOlGvb5S7
Ag Natural said:
So can we agree Pop doesn't suck as has been reported?
West Texan said:Ag Natural said:
So can we agree Pop doesn't suck as has been reported?
Only morons ever thought Pop sucked.
Yes! I guess we won't see some of those guys around for a while since the only reason they posted at all was to rag on Pop and his politics.Ag Natural said:
So can we agree Pop doesn't suck as has been reported?
jteagle said:Yes! I guess we won't see some of those guys around for a while since the only reason they posted at all was to rag on Pop and his politics.Ag Natural said:
So can we agree Pop doesn't suck as has been reported?
I am curious to see how this year goes. This is an extremely young team and it will be interesting to see how long Pop stays with them.Sports-Ag said:jteagle said:Yes! I guess we won't see some of those guys around for a while since the only reason they posted at all was to rag on Pop and his politics.Ag Natural said:
So can we agree Pop doesn't suck as has been reported?
They will be back when the NBA season starts.
All is left for Pop is the all time record in wins in the regular season.
jteagle said:I am curious to see how this year goes. This is an extremely young team and it will be interesting to see how long Pop stays with them.Sports-Ag said:jteagle said:Yes! I guess we won't see some of those guys around for a while since the only reason they posted at all was to rag on Pop and his politics.Ag Natural said:
So can we agree Pop doesn't suck as has been reported?
They will be back when the NBA season starts.
All is left for Pop is the all time record in wins in the regular season.
Young is 33 and Aminou is 30. These are the only players not in their 20s. 10 of those players are 24 or less. How long will he stay with the rebuild?
Well...all the feels here. Patty Mills leads Australia to the country's first ever Olympic Medal in Men's Basketball and Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich finally gets the Gold Medal with Team USA, a dream he's had for decades. (Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images) #GoSpursGo pic.twitter.com/j1zjm8DRg3
— RJ Marquez (@KSATRJ) August 7, 2021
COACH POP GETTING TO IT AFTER WINNING GOLD 😂 (via @Money23Green) pic.twitter.com/LwQyyqF8tf
— Overtime (@overtime) August 7, 2021
Enzo The Baker said:Well...all the feels here. Patty Mills leads Australia to the country's first ever Olympic Medal in Men's Basketball and Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich finally gets the Gold Medal with Team USA, a dream he's had for decades. (Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images) #GoSpursGo pic.twitter.com/j1zjm8DRg3
— RJ Marquez (@KSATRJ) August 7, 2021