*****2021 Spurs Offseason Thread*****

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Not a fan.
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Spurs: need a playmaker

Spurs draft a 180lb guard that averaged 0.8 assists per game for Bama
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Can't have too many shooting guards apparently.
Enzo The Baker
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Fire Brian Wright. Yesterday.
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West Texan said:

Ag Natural said:

West Texan said:

Well, Giddey is gone. Need Sengun to make it to us other wise I'd rather trade back.


There's actually many great options. You know the Spurs have a longer list than we do.




It's happening isn't it /gif


Narrator: It didn't
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Someone must love his upside



Huge reach
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And the west side erupts

Primo Ghuey
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Possible Spurs we're picking for someone else? Trade? Maybe? Hopefully?
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Well lonnie looks promisimg now



Enzo The Baker
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Unbelievable. We could have worked out a trade to get a late first round pick for this kid.

WTF are we thinking? Really? We just wasted a lottery pick.
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Fire Brian Knight and lock Pop in his wine cellar for the rest of his life.

This guy wasn't projected anywhere near the lotto for good reason.

Could have had Sengun, you idiots.
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MookieBlaylock said:

Well lonnie looks promisimg now






We all knew you'd come around
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This espn announce team sucks. Saw who the spurs drafted and now back to the Olympics.
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Spurs depth chart:
PG: Tre
SG: Murray/White/Lonnie/Vassell/Primo/Weatherspoon/Jefferies
SF: Keldon/Diop
PF: Luka
C: poetlll/Eubanks

Championship
Enzo The Baker
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Lol
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SAN ANTONIO SPURS
The Spurs shocked everyone by taking Primo here, who was no. 27 on my big board. Primo looks the part of a 3-and-D wing, and he displayed go-to scoring upside with occasional dribble jumpers. If he's able to tap into his shot-creation ability with the Spurs, there's a chance he ends up being more than just a role player. San Antonio clearly sees a lot of promise in the lights-out shooter. At 18 years old, he's the youngest player in the draft. This is a sign the Spurs are playing the long game.
Grade: C+

LIGHTS-OUT SHOOTER who plays selflessly and could fit on any NBA team despite his youth.
  • Perimeter Shooting
PLUSES
  • Good shooter off the catch with a high release and deep range. He also has the ability to hit shots on the move using handoffs and screens.
  • Shooting threat off the bounce using one or two dribbles to create room for his jump shot.
  • Intelligent offensive player with a feel for when to cut and how to relocate off the ball.
  • Active on-ball defender with great fundamentals and length who defends with his feet and not his arms, sliding laterally to mirror opponents and rarely committing careless fouls.
  • Hard-nosed player who fights at every opportunity, whether it be after a switch against a bigger player or in an off-ball situation when he must help in the paint then hustle back to his man.
MINUSES
  • Lacks the type of ball-on-a-string handle and explosive first step found in players with go-to scoring upside. He projects more as a complementary player.
  • Below-the-rim athlete who struggles to finish around the hoop. He displays touch on crafty right-handed layups but avoids contact and lacks a reliable left hand.
  • Negative assist-to-turnover ratio due to his tendency to make risky passes and his lack of a strong handle.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/draft-grades
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Worst Spurs first round pick of the Pop era. Senile old fool.
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AG 2000' said:

Worst Spurs first round pick of the Pop era. Senile old fool.


Vassell over Halliburton will prove to be worse
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AG 2000' said:

Worst Spurs first round pick of the Pop era. Senile old fool.


Lonnie still holds that title
But this kid is an early favourite to pass Dwayne Schintzus RIP

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"But as it turns out, Josh Primo might be the best pro of them all," Tide coach Nate Oats says. "He sacrificed a little bit of himself for us. His numbers could've been a lot higher if he went somewhere else. He could've thrown a fit when he wasn't getting a ton of shots or wasn't starting. But he just kept doing whatever it took for us to win, and it ended up working out for him too. It just goes to show that when you play your role and contribute to team success, you prove your own value in the process. Without him, we don't win the SEC. Without us doing that, he probably doesn't get drafted as high."

The Spurs took Primo, a 6-foot-6 wing from Toronto who reclassified to play college basketball a year early and does not turn 19 until Christmas Eve, less for what he is now than for what he can be down the road. He started 19 games in college, averaged 8.1 points and 3.4 rebounds, sank a respectable 38.1 percent from 3-point range. But the stroke looks pure, and he's a good athlete who shows promise as a switchable defender and has a little wiggle as a secondary ball-handler.

Primo made Canada's U19 World Cup team as a 16-year-old in 2019, blew up as a prospect at the Basketball Without Borders camp in February of 2020, made the SEC All-Freshman team at Alabama last season and then turned heads at the NBA Combine in June.

"We knew he wanted to play in the NBA and believed he was good enough to do that someday, but we thought he was more like a two-and-done," Oats says. "It was a win-win situation for us, though. If he stays, that's great for our team. If he goes, that's great for him that he reached his dream in just one year and helps us in recruiting. I think he's the youngest player in this class, and when you talk about drafting on upside, he's that. But a lot of times when those guys don't end up reaching their potential, it's because they're low-character kids with a bad work ethic. He's the opposite of that. He's the guy you're drafting with the hope that he'll be great in a couple years who'll be doing everything he possibly can to make sure he is great in a couple years."
https://theathletic.com/2730551/2021/07/29/joshua-primo-goes-to-the-san-antonio-spurs-heres-what-theyre-getting/
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They must have been wanting to trade down and couldn't make a deal happen


Right??
Enzo The Baker
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Yes. This is likely what happened. It's a ballsy pick. Wright better pray to god he works out. Here is is track record:

-Selecting Luka
-Bertans/Morris fiasco
-Vassell over Halliburton
-Keeping LMA and DDR on the same team for 3 years with nothing to show for it
-Drafting a second rounder at 12th

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Senguen goes to Rockets at 16
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This night keeps getting worse.
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Enzo The Baker said:

Yes. This is likely what happened. It's a ballsy pick. Wright better pray to god he works out. Here is is track record:

-Selecting Luka
-Bertans/Morris fiasco
-Vassell over Halliburton
-Keeping LMA and DDR on the same team for 3 years with nothing to show for it
-Drafting a second rounder at 12th




Lonnie one pick before Heurter and before Landry Shamet and Robert Williams
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Passing on Sengun must mean that either they think Luka can play or they've got a big coming in free agency.
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LawHall88 said:

Passing on Sengun must mean that either they think Luka can play or they've got a big coming in free agency.


And still no legit point.

A stretch 4 and a point guard?
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I also wonder how much of Luka's struggle as a kid in the NBA played a factor. God I hate Luka.
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Guitarsoup said:

Senguen goes to Rockets at 16


Rickets liked him enough to send two first rivers to get him
Enzo The Baker
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Yup.
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12. San Antonio Spurs
Joshua Primo | 6-6 guard | 18 years old, freshman | Alabama
Vecenie's Ranking: 34

The idea with Primo is that you are getting a high-upside player a year early as a draft pick, before he might be totally ready to play in the NBA. If he had stayed in school, he likely would have been seen as a lottery pick entering the 2022 process. But by taking him late in the first round or early in the second this year, a franchise might be getting a good asset at a much lower price due to the uncertainty surrounding parts of his game that he hasn't proven at the college level. Primo can really shoot and he has some dexterity with the ball. Plus, he seems to want to defend. But he's skinny and isn't a crazy athlete.

Hollinger's team fit: WuT. Primo was seen as a possibility in the 20s, but certainly not here. The Alabama guard was a very low-usage player in his lone season there. While he has decent size and some shooting ability, his one game at the draft combine was hardly scintillating. Primo is the youngest collegian in the draft so there's some upside potential here in that sense, but he's not a high-wire athlete or a tremendous on-ball creator. San Antonio's draft history deserves respect, but if this was really their guy it seems they could have pretty easily traded back first.

Hollinger would have picked Sengun
https://theathletic.com/2740150/2021/07/29/2021-nba-draft-results-round-1-picks-grades-analysis-trades-including-cade-cunningham-to-pistons/
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Enzo The Baker said:

Yes. This is likely what happened. It's a ballsy pick. Wright better pray to god he works out. Here is is track record:

-Selecting Luka
-Bertans/Morris fiasco
-Vassell over Halliburton
-Keeping LMA and DDR on the same team for 3 years with nothing to show for it
-Drafting a second rounder at 12th


Nothing will happen to Wright as long as Wokeovich is there. He was a diversity hire to begin with by Pop, he's safe.

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"But as it turns out, Josh Primo might be the best pro of them all," Tide coach Nate Oats says. "He sacrificed a little bit of himself for us. His numbers could've been a lot higher if he went somewhere else. He could've thrown a fit when he wasn't getting a ton of shots or wasn't starting. But he just kept doing whatever it took for us to win, and it ended up working out for him too. It just goes to show that when you play your role and contribute to team success, you prove your own value in the process. Without him, we don't win the SEC. Without us doing that, he probably doesn't get drafted as high."

The Spurs took Primo, a 6-foot-6 wing from Toronto who reclassified to play college basketball a year early and does not turn 19 until Christmas Eve, less for what he is now than for what he can be down the road. He started 19 games in college, averaged 8.1 points and 3.4 rebounds, sank a respectable 38.1 percent from 3-point range. But the stroke looks pure, and he's a good athlete who shows promise as a switchable defender and has a little wiggle as a secondary ball-handler.

Primo made Canada's U19 World Cup team as a 16-year-old in 2019, blew up as a prospect at the Basketball Without Borders camp in February of 2020, made the SEC All-Freshman team at Alabama last season and then turned heads at the NBA Combine in June.

"We knew he wanted to play in the NBA and believed he was good enough to do that someday, but we thought he was more like a two-and-done," Oats says. "It was a win-win situation for us, though. If he stays, that's great for our team. If he goes, that's great for him that he reached his dream in just one year and helps us in recruiting. I think he's the youngest player in this class, and when you talk about drafting on upside, he's that. But a lot of times when those guys don't end up reaching their potential, it's because they're low-character kids with a bad work ethic. He's the opposite of that. He's the guy you're drafting with the hope that he'll be great in a couple years who'll be doing everything he possibly can to make sure he is great in a couple years."
https://theathletic.com/2730551/2021/07/29/joshua-primo-goes-to-the-san-antonio-spurs-heres-what-theyre-getting/
Well, this explains it.

After the drama with Kawhi, Pop's valuing character above all else. Idiots could have at least traded back and gotten a better / additional pick down the road somewhere.
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Yea. I'm not upset about the pick itself as I think it's a good swing. Just not at freaking 12. I'm sure the Spurs tried to trade down but if they were high on the kid, they should have offered a future consideration and/or one of our guards for an additional first rounder in the 20s.
 
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