REPORT: 3 team trade that sends Jaylen Brown to Atlanta and Giannis to Boston is now confirmed. Teams are ironing out final details. Official announcement expected early this week.
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All I do is Nguyen said:REPORT: 3 team trade that sends Jaylen Brown to Atlanta and Giannis to Boston is now confirmed. Teams are ironing out final details. Official announcement expected early this week.
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Dillon Jones: Back-to-back NBA champion at 24 🔥 pic.twitter.com/HbjHopWxn5
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Nine school buses hired to transport soccer fans from MetLife Stadium had to be abandoned on Saturday night during the raucous New York Knicks celebrations in Manhattan.
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Five buses were set on fire or destroyed by vandalism or trampling.https://t.co/gmAwXhKUee pic.twitter.com/Mk478mIyGY
LawHall88 said:
Maybe we should sign this guy for good luck.Dillon Jones: Back-to-back NBA champion at 24 🔥 pic.twitter.com/HbjHopWxn5
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MookieBlaylock said:LawHall88 said:
Maybe we should sign this guy for good luck.Dillon Jones: Back-to-back NBA champion at 24 🔥 pic.twitter.com/HbjHopWxn5
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Guitarsoup said:Dobro Turtlebane said:
The most fascinating outcome of this will be the effect on Wemby's mental development. I don't remember anyone being so openly obsessed with their legend and GOAT placement, and I think sometimes he wants so much to be "mommy, there go that man" that it leads to bad basketball decisions. Not saying he's a bad teammate, but he talks openly about how and where legends are made.
Example: Game 2, Spurs have clawed back from a hole and have momentum. They've started moving the ball on offense. They get a turnover? long rebound? (don't remember that part). Instead of getting into the offense, Wemby takes a 28' heat check 3 in transition… on a 2-on-4 disadvantage. Last night, Wemby takes a contested 3 with like 18 seconds on the shot clock. Spurs get a rare offensive rebound, and Wemby launches another (slightly longer) contested 3.
Maybe he watches a ton of film and decides it's going to take a village to win rings. But he might watch the same film and see missed layups, awful turnovers, and clanked middies and think "yes, only a legend can carry a Finals team" and make more bad decisions in clutch time.
Wemby lost that U19 game despite being the best player. He lost the gold medal game despite being the highest scorer from either team.
He has shown that he feeds off the defeat and takes it personally to fuel himself getting better. He's done that since he was a kid. I am not at all worried about his mental psyche.
The biggest problem for him is the demands of being the #1 player on offense and #1 player on defense. I don't think that physiologically his body can handle that and after the Minn/OKC series he was physically worn down.
Wemby had to launch those threes at the end because we needed as much time as possible. Same shot he launched that killed OKC.
Dobro Turtlebane said:Guitarsoup said:Dobro Turtlebane said:
The most fascinating outcome of this will be the effect on Wemby's mental development. I don't remember anyone being so openly obsessed with their legend and GOAT placement, and I think sometimes he wants so much to be "mommy, there go that man" that it leads to bad basketball decisions. Not saying he's a bad teammate, but he talks openly about how and where legends are made.
Example: Game 2, Spurs have clawed back from a hole and have momentum. They've started moving the ball on offense. They get a turnover? long rebound? (don't remember that part). Instead of getting into the offense, Wemby takes a 28' heat check 3 in transition… on a 2-on-4 disadvantage. Last night, Wemby takes a contested 3 with like 18 seconds on the shot clock. Spurs get a rare offensive rebound, and Wemby launches another (slightly longer) contested 3.
Maybe he watches a ton of film and decides it's going to take a village to win rings. But he might watch the same film and see missed layups, awful turnovers, and clanked middies and think "yes, only a legend can carry a Finals team" and make more bad decisions in clutch time.
Wemby lost that U19 game despite being the best player. He lost the gold medal game despite being the highest scorer from either team.
He has shown that he feeds off the defeat and takes it personally to fuel himself getting better. He's done that since he was a kid. I am not at all worried about his mental psyche.
The biggest problem for him is the demands of being the #1 player on offense and #1 player on defense. I don't think that physiologically his body can handle that and after the Minn/OKC series he was physically worn down.
Wemby had to launch those threes at the end because we needed as much time as possible. Same shot he launched that killed OKC.
I'm not worried about his psyche at all either. I'm not even "worried" about the outcome, I'm just interested in it. He'll never play on the U19 team again. He'll play on the French national team for 6 weeks every 4 years (and the team makeup will change a lot each time). He'll be on 80-90% of the same Spurs team next year. Will the sting of the collapses make him more ball dominant? Will he become a John Stockton level distributor in the clutch? Will he start punting the ball into the net from the far baseline? It's nothing to be worried about, but the psychology is interesting
Guitarsoup said:
He says ~15M year for Julian. Then basically use the MLE and run it back. Spurs are in a great place.
Cave Johnson, CEO said:Guitarsoup said:
He says ~15M year for Julian. Then basically use the MLE and run it back. Spurs are in a great place.
Where is Morez projected to go? I'm hoping we trade up to get him.
Cave Johnson, CEO said:
I know you've probably mentioned it before so sorry for asking you to repeat yourself, but who do you think the best options are for the spurs assuming they stay put at 20?
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Maybe it's time for us to put this thread down and start our off-season thread?
Average Joe said:
I feel like our player pool is pretty small at that 20 spot. Only 2-3 real options there. Curious what the play is if they don't make it to us.
Guitarsoup said:Average Joe said:
I feel like our player pool is pretty small at that 20 spot. Only 2-3 real options there. Curious what the play is if they don't make it to us.
I would trade the Hawks pick to move up for Johnson and maybe Steinbach.
If the only thing left is Cenac, I might trade out and use it to get a rotation player. #20 and Spurs get the right to swap in 2029 to Detroit for BeefStew? I think I would do that. I would trade Julian for BeefStew right now.
Average Joe said:Guitarsoup said:Average Joe said:
I feel like our player pool is pretty small at that 20 spot. Only 2-3 real options there. Curious what the play is if they don't make it to us.
I would trade the Hawks pick to move up for Johnson and maybe Steinbach.
If the only thing left is Cenac, I might trade out and use it to get a rotation player. #20 and Spurs get the right to swap in 2029 to Detroit for BeefStew? I think I would do that. I would trade Julian for BeefStew right now.
I worry about his injury history, but for Champ? I'll take that.
AggieEP said:
I've seen tons of the talk on here about Julian, I'm curious why we don't just make him play out his contract at 3 million. He's obviously worth more than that, but I don't know what we're worried about if he gets to UFA, there won't be many teams with real cap room to make some big offer. And some of those teams will be crappy teams not interested in signing a role player. Maybe Julian wants to go home to Brooklyn for top dollar but I think it's in our favor to play hardball and make him prove it one more year before we are in on him long term.
We've seen repeatedly in the last few seasons that there hasn't been any money out there for guys like Julian on the open market. I think there is a good chance that of we play it out and put an offer of 4 years 40 million he doesn't have many options better than that, and if he does we have to think hard about whether we're still in for more than 10 million a year for someone who will never be more than a role player.
Alternatively, I have to wonder if we could use his 3 million salary to buy a future 1st from someone who is already bumping hard against the aprons. Imagine calling up Boston and swapping them Champ for Hauser and a future 1st. Or maybe the Rockets are interested and would give us one of the Brooklyn picks. It's really a great opportunity to save a capped out team and profit from their desperation.
Or Portland and their cheap ass owner and giving them Champ and Kelly for Camara.
I love Champ, but I don't think I see him as one of the guys with long term value to us that couldn't be replaced at a much cheaper price tag.
Guitarsoup said:AggieEP said:
I've seen tons of the talk on here about Julian, I'm curious why we don't just make him play out his contract at 3 million. He's obviously worth more than that, but I don't know what we're worried about if he gets to UFA, there won't be many teams with real cap room to make some big offer. And some of those teams will be crappy teams not interested in signing a role player. Maybe Julian wants to go home to Brooklyn for top dollar but I think it's in our favor to play hardball and make him prove it one more year before we are in on him long term.
We've seen repeatedly in the last few seasons that there hasn't been any money out there for guys like Julian on the open market. I think there is a good chance that of we play it out and put an offer of 4 years 40 million he doesn't have many options better than that, and if he does we have to think hard about whether we're still in for more than 10 million a year for someone who will never be more than a role player.
Alternatively, I have to wonder if we could use his 3 million salary to buy a future 1st from someone who is already bumping hard against the aprons. Imagine calling up Boston and swapping them Champ for Hauser and a future 1st. Or maybe the Rockets are interested and would give us one of the Brooklyn picks. It's really a great opportunity to save a capped out team and profit from their desperation.
Or Portland and their cheap ass owner and giving them Champ and Kelly for Camara.
I love Champ, but I don't think I see him as one of the guys with long term value to us that couldn't be replaced at a much cheaper price tag.
Yeah, I completely agree. Look at the last few championship teams. NYK, OKC, BOS, DEN, MIL, GSW, LAL, TOR, etc.... Julian isn't a starter on any of those teams. I like him, but he's a 7th or 8th man and shouldn't really be getting the MLE or close to it.
Your thought on the trade was why I thought about Champ for BeefStew.
A difficulty is we don't have a trade exception other than MLE/BAE.
How much does Houston love Jabari at his big contract? 5y125M.
For teams needing to cut cash, would Denver do Keldon+20 or the Hawks 27 for Cam Johnson? That saves them ~5M. Opens up more money for Peyton Watson.
Would Memphis do 20+Keldon for Santi?
Can we take advantage of old man Dumars? Fox+Champ+20 for Herb+Saddiq+DJM
Philly is weak at SF. Hilarious to sell Champ back to them for a 1st.
I think once teams start making trades, a team that needs a rotation piece like Champ will open up. Unless he wants a 4/50 or less that is front loaded, I am probably telling him to prove he can be a 40% shooter consistently.
Guitarsoup said:Cave Johnson, CEO said:
I know you've probably mentioned it before so sorry for asking you to repeat yourself, but who do you think the best options are for the spurs assuming they stay put at 20?
Morez Johnson
Yaxel or Steinbach
Karim Lopez or Jayden Quintance(high upside low floor)
Dailyn Swain (Keldon with better defense)
Cam Carr (Devin Vassell clone)
Chris Cenac (I think he is too soft, but has right size and great athleticism)
Also if Fox is traded (which I don't think he would be)
Ebuka Okorie
Christian Anderson
Completely off my board for first round:
Allen Graves (small and poor athleticism, poor defense)
Joshua Jefferson (short and not athletic, but has mass)
Koa Peat (More athletic Jeremy Sochan)
Enzo The Baker said:Guitarsoup said:AggieEP said:
I've seen tons of the talk on here about Julian, I'm curious why we don't just make him play out his contract at 3 million. He's obviously worth more than that, but I don't know what we're worried about if he gets to UFA, there won't be many teams with real cap room to make some big offer. And some of those teams will be crappy teams not interested in signing a role player. Maybe Julian wants to go home to Brooklyn for top dollar but I think it's in our favor to play hardball and make him prove it one more year before we are in on him long term.
We've seen repeatedly in the last few seasons that there hasn't been any money out there for guys like Julian on the open market. I think there is a good chance that of we play it out and put an offer of 4 years 40 million he doesn't have many options better than that, and if he does we have to think hard about whether we're still in for more than 10 million a year for someone who will never be more than a role player.
Alternatively, I have to wonder if we could use his 3 million salary to buy a future 1st from someone who is already bumping hard against the aprons. Imagine calling up Boston and swapping them Champ for Hauser and a future 1st. Or maybe the Rockets are interested and would give us one of the Brooklyn picks. It's really a great opportunity to save a capped out team and profit from their desperation.
Or Portland and their cheap ass owner and giving them Champ and Kelly for Camara.
I love Champ, but I don't think I see him as one of the guys with long term value to us that couldn't be replaced at a much cheaper price tag.
Yeah, I completely agree. Look at the last few championship teams. NYK, OKC, BOS, DEN, MIL, GSW, LAL, TOR, etc.... Julian isn't a starter on any of those teams. I like him, but he's a 7th or 8th man and shouldn't really be getting the MLE or close to it.
Your thought on the trade was why I thought about Champ for BeefStew.
A difficulty is we don't have a trade exception other than MLE/BAE.
How much does Houston love Jabari at his big contract? 5y125M.
For teams needing to cut cash, would Denver do Keldon+20 or the Hawks 27 for Cam Johnson? That saves them ~5M. Opens up more money for Peyton Watson.
Would Memphis do 20+Keldon for Santi?
Can we take advantage of old man Dumars? Fox+Champ+20 for Herb+Saddiq+DJM
Philly is weak at SF. Hilarious to sell Champ back to them for a 1st.
I think once teams start making trades, a team that needs a rotation piece like Champ will open up. Unless he wants a 4/50 or less that is front loaded, I am probably telling him to prove he can be a 40% shooter consistently.
I don't know about giving up Champ man. His shooting completely unlocked our team this year. I'd like to keep him and think he's more valuable than a 4. That's how important his shooting is. His defense was exposed a bit in the Knicks series but I'd take him over beef stew and it's not even that close to be honest.
flashplayer said:Guitarsoup said:Cave Johnson, CEO said:
I know you've probably mentioned it before so sorry for asking you to repeat yourself, but who do you think the best options are for the spurs assuming they stay put at 20?
Morez Johnson
Yaxel or Steinbach
Karim Lopez or Jayden Quintance(high upside low floor)
Dailyn Swain (Keldon with better defense)
Cam Carr (Devin Vassell clone)
Chris Cenac (I think he is too soft, but has right size and great athleticism)
Also if Fox is traded (which I don't think he would be)
Ebuka Okorie
Christian Anderson
Completely off my board for first round:
Allen Graves (small and poor athleticism, poor defense)
Joshua Jefferson (short and not athletic, but has mass)
Koa Peat (More athletic Jeremy Sochan)
I would be happy with either Carr or Swain if the bigs are gone or if we plan to address PF with the MLE. Both those guys look to me like they can be solid contributors on good teams.
In my dream scenario we somehow trade up for Mara and then can use the MLE for some wing depth.
vaqueroag said:
I haven't been reading through this thread closely enough so I'm sure this has been touched on a bunch, but from a level headed perspective how do we feel about Mitch? Is he on a hot seat going into next year?
