***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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In reply to MaxPower • 8:33p, 12/10/24
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MaxPower said:
If you are mainly interested in 2025 then you could do Bellinger with Paredes and Caissie. Bellinger replaces Tucker, Paredes replaces Bregman snd Caissie gives you the lefty OF to platoon with Meyers / Chas that could become a regular. Maybe you could also sign someone like Christian Walker as well.


Parades has too much value. You won't be able to get all that.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 8:46p, 12/10/24
Bellinger has negative value. The downgrade from Suzuki to him is pretty big.
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8:53p, 12/10/24
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AI gunna get too good soon.

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8:59p, 12/10/24
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One of these years, I hope to come out of an off-season feeling like they boosted the offense
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 9:11p, 12/10/24
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EastCoastAgNc said:

One of these years, I hope to come out of an off-season feeling like they boosted the offense


You'll get a depth rental bat at the deadline and you'll like it
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In reply to tjack16 • 9:53p, 12/10/24
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tjack16 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:

One of these years, I hope to come out of an off-season feeling like they boosted the offense


You'll get a depth rental bat at the deadline and you'll like it


And a washed up has been off the scrap heap, that some other team released outright
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9:55p, 12/10/24
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Would much rather see Tuck go to the Cubs and the NL rather than NY.
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7:08a, 12/11/24
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Is today the Astros do something? Anything? Is there life out there?
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7:09a, 12/11/24
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I would absolutely hate to waste prime years of Yordan, Altuve and controllable years of Yainer on a rebuild. Even if it's a soft rebuild. Really hope it doesn't come down to that
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7:57a, 12/11/24
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Had a conversation last night and the Tucker rumors are very real. There's a legitimate chance he gets dealt this winter.
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In reply to tjack16 • 7:59a, 12/11/24
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Prepare yourself now

There's just no way the Astros can keep it all in tact. They just can't afford it. They're not the Yankees, Dodgers, or Mets.

Even if they resign Bregman and run it back one more time you're passing up on the value of Tucker and/or Framber for an slim outside chance at another banner. That's not very smart.

Think about it...Bregman's standing off of $156/6 is the largest and longest contract ever given out by Crane. No way in hell he's gonna be able to give Tucker $400/10. Just like no matter how much I want to I can't afford a vacation home on my own tropical island.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 7:59a, 12/11/24
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Had a conversation last night and the Tucker rumors are very real. There's a legitimate chance he gets dealt this winter.
We better get a King's ransom (pun intended) for him then
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
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In reply to Wabs • 8:11a, 12/11/24
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Wabs said:
Is today the Astros do something? Anything? Is there life out there?

You'll get Turd Ferguson resigned and you'll like it
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 8:11a, 12/11/24
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Had a conversation last night and the Tucker rumors are very real. There's a legitimate chance he gets dealt this winter.


Guess I know what I'm doing this morning. You heard of anyone or any teams we are targeting?
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8:14a, 12/11/24
If we are going to deal Tuck, I say trade Framber as well. If you're going to sell, sell and try and reload in a year or two. As much as we don't want this run to end it will. Might as well set yourself up to try and do it again in the near future.......everyone needs to remember what got this run started in the first place. young, hungry guys with a couple vets sprinkled in. Not the other way around.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 8:16a, 12/11/24
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texasaggie2015 said:
Had a conversation last night and the Tucker rumors are very real. There's a legitimate chance he gets dealt this winter.

Any insight on whether the Astros are actually increasing their offer to Alex or is that just Dana BSing?
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In reply to AustinCountyAg • 8:17a, 12/11/24
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I'm leaning this way too.

Trade both for ML ready or almost ready (2-3 years out) talent, up the offer and resign Bregman, and have Bregs, Altuve, Yordan, and Diaz as the vet core with the young guys mixed in.

And actually this would make overpaying for Bregman a little more palatable if he's around a bunch of young guys as the vocal leader.
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In reply to Ag_07 • 8:21a, 12/11/24
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Ag_07 said:
Prepare yourself now

There's just no way the Astros can keep it all in tact. They just can't afford it. They're not the Yankees, Dodgers, or Mets.

Even if they resign Bregman and run it back one more time you're passing up on the value of Tucker and/or Framber for an slim outside chance at another banner. That's not very smart.

Think about it...Bregman's standing off of $156/6 is the largest and longest contract ever given out by Crane. No way in hell he's gonna be able to give Tucker $400/10. Just like no matter how much I want to I can't afford a vacation home on my own tropical island.


I don't think we necessarily need to re-sign all of them but I do think they have to be very smart going forward because you can't lose all 3 and then do nothing to get back to the playoffs in 2025.

That's my worry is we get great prospects in the trades but nothing that'll be significant for this upcoming season.
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In reply to tjack16 • 8:23a, 12/11/24
tjack16 said:
Ag_07 said:
Prepare yourself now

There's just no way the Astros can keep it all in tact. They just can't afford it. They're not the Yankees, Dodgers, or Mets.

Even if they resign Bregman and run it back one more time you're passing up on the value of Tucker and/or Framber for an slim outside chance at another banner. That's not very smart.

Think about it...Bregman's standing off of $156/6 is the largest and longest contract ever given out by Crane. No way in hell he's gonna be able to give Tucker $400/10. Just like no matter how much I want to I can't afford a vacation home on my own tropical island.


I don't think we necessarily need to re-sign all of them but I do think they have to be very smart going forward because you can't lose all 3 and then do nothing to get back to the playoffs in 2025.

That's my worry is we get great prospects in the trades but nothing that'll be significant for this upcoming season.
thats why they call it rebuilding
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In reply to tjack16 • 8:28a, 12/11/24
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With the position they're in they can't position themselves for success in 2025 but also set themselves up for long term success.

I don't see how they can have it both ways.
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8:31a, 12/11/24
Yankee fan here - Gil, Schmidt, + for Tucker.
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In reply to topgun23 • 8:34a, 12/11/24
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topgun23 said:
Yankee fan here - Gil, Schmidt, + for Tucker.
lol gtfo
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In reply to AustinCountyAg • 8:38a, 12/11/24
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AustinCountyAg said:
tjack16 said:
Ag_07 said:
Prepare yourself now

There's just no way the Astros can keep it all in tact. They just can't afford it. They're not the Yankees, Dodgers, or Mets.

Even if they resign Bregman and run it back one more time you're passing up on the value of Tucker and/or Framber for an slim outside chance at another banner. That's not very smart.

Think about it...Bregman's standing off of $156/6 is the largest and longest contract ever given out by Crane. No way in hell he's gonna be able to give Tucker $400/10. Just like no matter how much I want to I can't afford a vacation home on my own tropical island.


I don't think we necessarily need to re-sign all of them but I do think they have to be very smart going forward because you can't lose all 3 and then do nothing to get back to the playoffs in 2025.

That's my worry is we get great prospects in the trades but nothing that'll be significant for this upcoming season.
thats why they call it rebuilding


I understand the term. I'm just frustrated that it's come to that when we have great key pieces in place like Javier, Brown, Yordan, Altuve, Diaz, etc.
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8:39a, 12/11/24
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I would have no problem trading Framber and Tucker if it meant we got back at least one MLBer (under control for 3+ years), a couple of MLB-ready type prospects and also unloaded Pressly.

This is whether we re-sign Breggy or not (unlikely). Find a short term 3B until one of our young guys is ready if Breggy leaves. Polanco?

Example of MLBer: someone like Casas (mentioned yesterday)

Example of MLB-ready prospects: Dominguez (NYY), Ballesteros (CHC) or Alcantara (CHC)
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 8:39a, 12/11/24
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Not sure. Cubs obviously make sense.

It would have to be a substantial offer obviously. But if it presents itself, they just might pull the trigger.
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In reply to topgun23 • 8:39a, 12/11/24
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Since you're a Yankee "fan"….

WITHOUT all due respect, that idea ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on.
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In reply to topgun23 • 8:45a, 12/11/24
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I'm not even an Astros fan and I know this won't fly. Gil, Dominguez, and 2 of whatever overrated prospects you guys have to start the conversation.
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In reply to topgun23 • 8:47a, 12/11/24
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topgun23 said:
Yankee fan here - Gil, Schmidt, + for Tucker.
Maybe if the "+" is Dominguez. You in?
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8:47a, 12/11/24
If y'all think you're getting Dominguez for rental, you're insane. The package will look like the Soto deal from last year.

It'll be Gill, Schmidt and someone like Ben Rice. You have no leverage; everyone knows you aren't going to resign him
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In reply to topgun23 • 8:49a, 12/11/24
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topgun23 said:
Yankee fan here - Gil, Schmidt, + for Tucker.
That is a plenty fair offer. I am not just that high on Schmidt or Gil even though Gil has a ton of control. The Astros need a big-time bat in this deal. The Yankees don't have one to offer most likely. A 3rd team would be required.

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In reply to Wabs • 8:51a, 12/11/24
Wabs said:
topgun23 said:
Yankee fan here - Gil, Schmidt, + for Tucker.
Maybe if the "+" is Dominguez. You in?
I'd be in if we could guarantee an extension
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