I'm super stoked about this. We had Tucker for 1 year left anyway and God forbid he foul another ball off his shin.
***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****
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Isaac Paredes (acquired by HOU) is the pulled fly king that will flourish with the Crawford Boxes in Houston
— Thomas Nestico (@TJStats) December 13, 2024
40 HR season incoming? https://t.co/jqmtKaCC3b pic.twitter.com/dcLOv3RU0e
They both have to go through arbitration but it's roughly $8-10M.Marvin said:
What is the contract difference with this trade for '25?
so that means no bregs too, right?
or someone moves to first?
or someone moves to first?
Which means we have around 20-23 M in space to stay under the tax. If we move Pressly then we can afford Bregman and stay under.MaxPower said:They both have to go through arbitration but it's roughly $8-10M.Marvin said:
What is the contract difference with this trade for '25?
I think you have to trade Presley now for OF depth. We can't seriously be planning on a Dubon, Meyers, and Chas outfield.
No. Paredes plays 1B too. Bregman & Paredes in the same line up means a lot of walks and cheap HRs.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
so that means no bregs too, right?
Wesneski is not as sexy an addition as Suzuki from the earlier trade discussion, but it could still be great based on what you do from here.
Now you clearly have the payroll space to sign a plus bat (which you need to do to offset the loss of Tucker and Bregman).
Wesneski gives you an arm to stash in the pen that provides security for starting rotation depth. Moves like yhat may affect your opportunity to see what you can get for Framber.
Pressly still stands to get traded, opening up more possibilities.
I like this trade as a starting point for 2025, but there is plenty more work to be done. I REALLY like it for 2026 and beyond.
Now you clearly have the payroll space to sign a plus bat (which you need to do to offset the loss of Tucker and Bregman).
Wesneski gives you an arm to stash in the pen that provides security for starting rotation depth. Moves like yhat may affect your opportunity to see what you can get for Framber.
Pressly still stands to get traded, opening up more possibilities.
I like this trade as a starting point for 2025, but there is plenty more work to be done. I REALLY like it for 2026 and beyond.
Farmer1906 said:Kyle Tucker is going to the Cubs pic.twitter.com/Pg5FCe7ouD
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) December 13, 2024
The holden age of the Astros was great while it lasted.
I understand the move, but this is how I'm feeling now...
Farmer1906 said:Which means we have around 20-23 M in space to stay under the tax. If we move Pressly then we can afford Bregman and stay under.MaxPower said:They both have to go through arbitration but it's roughly $8-10M.Marvin said:
What is the contract difference with this trade for '25?
That's what I was wondering- whether Crane and Dana spend it on Penguin or an outfielder.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
Isaac Paredes can play either corner infield spot — and the Astros would've played him at first base had they acquired him at last season's trade deadline — but his best position is third base, which is a vacancy for Houston.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 13, 2024
OKCAg2002 said:
I think you have to trade Presley now for OF depth. We can't seriously be planning on a Dubon, Meyers, and Chas outfield.
Yikes that's the worst outfield in the majors. Probably some minor league outfields could compete
Hayden Wesneski (acquired by HOU) is a long-reliever that tosses an elite sweeper and exhibits solid command
— Thomas Nestico (@TJStats) December 13, 2024
Houston may experiment with him as a starter in 2025 given his arsenal depth and need for rotation depth https://t.co/jqmtKaD9SJ pic.twitter.com/XKHDCkBing
Teoscar??
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
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Farmer1906 said:No. Paredes plays 1B too. Bregman & Paredes in the same line up means a lot of walks and cheap HRs.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
so that means no bregs too, right?
Except bregmans walks dropped a ton
If we are doing it, let's do all of it. Trade Pressly and Framber too and let's reload
Thanks for the memories Tuck.
HEB commercial just going to be altuve watching tv by himself eating chips.
hate it, but good business. baseball is hard.
hate it, but good business. baseball is hard.
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
HEB commercial just going to be altuve watching tv by himself eating chips.
Never forget their employee of the month...... LMJ
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
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The Cubs come to Houston on June 27-29.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 13, 2024
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
HEB commercial just going to be altuve watching tv by himself eating chips.
This OF is so insanely bad. Holy christ. Offer Hernandez 3/80
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
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Cam Smith is Manny Ramirez that can play an awesome 3rd base
— Ben Upton (@Ben_Upton5) December 13, 2024
Welcome to the Astros 🫡 pic.twitter.com/lDfkyo1tK5
Fangraphs had us projected at $215M payroll before the trades which puts us at $206M after the trade. That puts us closer to $35M under (if we keep Framber and Pressly). Profar or Santander have to be first priority. Santander has a QO though. Not much at 1B unless you want Walker.
Extremely underwhelming. Wow.
C+ for me.
C+ for me.
Yeah. The fact we don't get Suzuki or Belli in return really stings for me. We desperately need an outfield upgrade. This needs to be a start and not a finish.
MaxPower said:
Santander has a QO though.
But we get a pick if Bregman leaves
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Not much at 1B unless you want Walker.
Alonso?
Let me know if anyone wants to buy a drink for this here Cubs fan, thinking Ninfa's on Navigation beforehand.EastCoastAgNc said:The Cubs come to Houston on June 27-29.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 13, 2024
texasaggie2015 said:
Extremely underwhelming. Wow.
C+ for me.
For one year of Tucker? I don't know, I suspect Dana got what he could.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
I'm good with the move as long as we follow up with more moves to shore up the OF. We were never keeping Tuck past this season and for a 1 year rental it's not a bad return imo. Major league contributors and one big minor league piece
texasaggie2015 said:
Extremely underwhelming. Wow.
C+ for me.
Cubs fans aren't happy about what they gave up. What realistically did you want
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
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EastCoastAgNc said:The Cubs come to Houston on June 27-29.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 13, 2024
I'm sure Tucker will get a nice video package.
Beat40 said:EastCoastAgNc said:The Cubs come to Houston on June 27-29.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 13, 2024
I'm sure Tucker will get a nice video package.
He'll be overcome with emotion
It got us our 3B for this year and for the foreseeable future.