***** Masters Tournament *****

71,204 Views | 1412 Replies | Last: 8 mo ago by PJYoung
JCA1
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to aginlakeway • 10:19a, 4/14/25
AG
aginlakeway said:
JCA1 said:
Jack Boyette said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FMFNNtw6V/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Easy to see why some don't like Rory.


Tiger spent 20 years not talking to anyone. Didn't seem to hurt his popularity.

Correct. He rarely talked to his playing partner, especially in the final round of a major.


Brooks was pretty much that way a few years back when he was winning majors (particularly with Bryson). Pretty sure Faldo gave everyone the cold shoulder too.

It's not a sock hop. If that's what Rory needed to do to stay focused on winning the freaking Masters, it was the right call. Weird thing to be upset about.
Reply Quote
6
Milwaukees Best Light
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
10:24a, 4/14/25
AG
I have Rory just outside the top ten. I have him one small notch below Phil. The decade drought, right in his prime, holds him back. There wasn't a stretch where you could ask 'you picking Rory, or the field?' Phil didn't really have that either, but his majors seemed more evenly spaced in his career. Just my opinion, feel free to tell me it stinks.
Reply Quote
3
JCA1
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Milwaukees Best Light • 10:26a, 4/14/25
AG
Milwaukees Best Light said:
I have Rory just outside the top ten. I have him one small notch below Phil. The decade drought, right in his prime, holds him back. There wasn't a stretch where you could ask 'you picking Rory, or the field?' Phil didn't really have that either, but his majors seemed more evenly spaced in his career. Just my opinion, feel free to tell me it stinks.


Phil was Rory's current age before he won his first major. The first 15 years of his career was a drought by that logic.
Reply Quote
8
aginlakeway
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to JCA1 • 10:26a, 4/14/25
AG
JCA1 said:
aginlakeway said:
JCA1 said:
Jack Boyette said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FMFNNtw6V/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Easy to see why some don't like Rory.


Tiger spent 20 years not talking to anyone. Didn't seem to hurt his popularity.

Correct. He rarely talked to his playing partner, especially in the final round of a major.


Brooks was pretty much that way a few years back when he was winning majors (particularly with Bryson). Pretty sure Faldo gave everyone the cold shoulder too.

It's not a sock hop. If that's what Rory needed to do to stay focused on winning the freaking Masters, it was the right call. Weird thing to be upset about.

Very weird. Many top golfers don't say anything to their playing partners.

I think some fans look for reasons to not root for a player. It's rarely anything personal, because they know very little about them personally. So it's a perceived reason, which may or may not be accurate. Again, IMO, many players who are perceived to be jerks are the opposite.

Anyway, very glad to see Rory get the monkey off his back. He paid his dues.
Reply Quote
3
bagger05
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Milwaukees Best Light • 10:26a, 4/14/25
AG
Quote:
Where do you think Rory sits in the historical hierarchy of golfers? Just for argument sake, let's say he doesn't win any more majors and doesn't have any long streak as world number one.

Good question.

Top tier are Jack and Tiger.

Next tier down are your people where they at least merit some discussion as to whether they belong on the Mt. Rushmore of golf. Maybe some of these would be eliminated quickly but it's not insane to discuss them as options.

- Hogan
- Nelson
- Jones
- Snead
- Palmer
- Player
- Sarazen
- Hagen
- Vardon
- Old Tom Morris


Now you have another tier down of people where I think Rory probably belongs. Probably silly to say they belong on the Mt. Rushmore but also probably a lock for the top 25 list.

- Watson
- Mickelson
- Rory
- Faldo
- Trevino
- Seve
- Probably a couple more guys from way back that I don't know
Reply Quote
7
1 edit
RK
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
10:30a, 4/14/25
AG
eh, it's sports. you don't have to have a good reason to like or not like someone. stop trying to logic people into feeling this way or that way.
Reply Quote
7
Milwaukees Best Light
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to bagger05 • 10:31a, 4/14/25
AG
I agree with this response.
Reply Quote
aginlakeway
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to bagger05 • 10:31a, 4/14/25
AG
Great post.
Reply Quote
Jack Boyette
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
10:33a, 4/14/25
Nobody's upset. He can do what he wants, and people can think he's a dick for it. Tiger and Brooks are both disliked by many for the same reason (along with other reasons).
Reply Quote
2
JCA1
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to bagger05 • 10:34a, 4/14/25
AG
Solid breakdown. I'd probably bump Rory up a level for the grand slam. I think that accomplishment is that special. But that's a quibble.
Reply Quote
1
bagger05
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to JCA1 • 10:39a, 4/14/25
AG
I think if you defined the second tier as "in the conversation for top 10 all time" you could bump Rory, Watson, and Mickelson into that group.
Reply Quote
98Ag99Grad
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
10:39a, 4/14/25
AG
His sustained play at a high level is impressive. he's been good for 15+ years which is becoming more and more uncommon these days. You'll see guys burst on the scene and win for 2-3 years then drop-off. It used to be guys peaked in their 30's; now if you're not winning in the your early 20's you're in trouble.
Reply Quote
CFTXAG10
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Aggie92 • 10:40a, 4/14/25
AG
Aggie92 said:
Dechambeau didn't say he tried either. His response was "eh, he wouldn't talk to me."
Yea, I thought it was a dumb question from the reporter to keep prying. Some guys need laser focus. Who cares if he talked to Bryson or not during the round. Hell, Rory needed every bit of focus given the ups and downs in the final round.

Admittedly, I am not the biggest Rory fan, but I can appreciate the degree of difficulty it takes to complete the grand slam and it was cool to see him achieve it. The raw emotion of getting the monkey off his back in the playoff was must see tv. He will go down as one of the greatest to ever play the game. Maybe now he will loosen up a bit with players and fans.
Reply Quote
3
1 edit
lazuras_dc
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Ag_07 • 10:45a, 4/14/25
AG
Ag_07 said:
Rory sucks because of his holier than thou attitude and the fact that he thinks he's God's gift to the game of golf. I think a lot of that is the result of the Tour propping him up but he sure did embrace the role and play it up.

I thought it was cool to see him achieve the grand slam but personally I would rather see almost anyone else win.
this

Chipotlemonger, I can have an opinion and root for Bryson without crying about it if it doesn't go through. Same with the Aggies-maybe I'm just jaded by years of defeat.
Reply Quote
1
1 edit
Kansas Kid
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to bagger05 • 10:49a, 4/14/25
Good list. I would put Watson in the next tier down. 9 major wins is 6th all time discounted slightly because he was really dominant at the Open. Also almost won the Open when he was almost 60.

If I had to move one off that tier, it would be a tough call but it would either be Nelson. A total of 30 of his 64 and 2 of his 5 major wins were during the war. Now if you going off who was the greatest gentleman in golf, he is the absolute top of the list.
Reply Quote
bagger05
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Kansas Kid • 10:58a, 4/14/25
AG
I don't think he'd make my Mt Rushmore but I think he's in the conversation. 11 straight wins is insane, WW2 asterisk or not.
Reply Quote
3
Kansas Kid
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to bagger05 • 11:35a, 4/14/25
bagger05 said:
I don't think he'd make my Mt Rushmore but I think he's in the conversation. 11 straight wins is insane, WW2 asterisk or not.
Without a doubt he is in the conversation even with the asterisk. If anyone wants to keep him in that tier below the GOATs, I have no issue with it. I would just fight to add Watson to that list although I might be biased because he is the only one on that list I have met.
Reply Quote
Tailgate88
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Jack Boyette • 11:36a, 4/14/25
AG
Jack Boyette said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FMFNNtw6V/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Easy to see why some don't like Rory.
Rory has had the Grand Slam monkey on his back for the past how many years? And after what happened 11 years ago, even more so since then. He came into this tournament knowing he was playing well and had a genuine chance this year. Of COURSE he's going to be focused.

If he had been joking around and slapping everyone's hands and then lost by a stroke, people would be accusing him of not being serious enough.

Can't please everyone. He had to do what he felt was right, and ... it worked.
Reply Quote
7
TyHolden
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
11:51a, 4/14/25
AG
Rory has inspired me to work harder than ever this year. I will break a 100 in golf AND bowling
Reply Quote
7
wangus12
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to 98Ag99Grad • 11:51a, 4/14/25
AG
98Ag99Grad said:
9 or 10 seems about right after yesterday, just due to his overall lower number of majors compared to the rest. He'll be an overwhelming favorite at Quail Hollow and wouldn't at all surprise me to see him win that one given his history there.
He's playing really well right now. Won't shock me to see if he wins several more times this year and possibly another major. He's got the massive gorilla off his back and he might just be a lot more relaxed and confident in his game without the Masters hanging over him. Quail Hollow is obviously one, but The Open is also back in Ireland so maybe he wins one on home soil
Reply Quote
6
1 edit
bagger05
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to wangus12 • 12:03p, 4/14/25
AG
Will be interested to see where he goes from here. He's in great form and the rest of the year sets up well for him.

He's won four times at Quail Hollow.

He'll have a home crowd at Royal Portrush.
Reply Quote
1
wangus12
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to bagger05 • 12:10p, 4/14/25
AG
Also didn't realize that Rory has the course record at Portrush before they redesigned it.
Reply Quote
1
GIF Reactor
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to bagger05 • 2:54p, 4/14/25
AG
Excellent list, but I think as one of only 6 people with the career grand slam, he belongs on the next list up.
Reply Quote
1
birdman
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
3:02p, 4/14/25
I'd put four guys on the Top Tier. Nicklaus, Woods, Hagen and Hogan.

Then throw in about a dozen guys for Second Tier.
Reply Quote
2
Harry Stone
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to wangus12 • 3:04p, 4/14/25
AG
wangus12 said:
Also didn't realize that Rory has the course record at Portrush before they redesigned it.


Cool Starry Bra moment

Played at Pine Valley with a sports agent from ireland. He competed against Rory. Kid could hit it a mile. Anyways, he played in an amateur event against rory at royal portrush i think in 2005. He went out and shot a 69, thought he was leading then rory comes in with a 61. He said after that he knew he'd never be a pro golfer so changed his path and became a sports agent up in the philly area.
Reply Quote
5
Chipotlemonger
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to GIF Reactor • 3:09p, 4/14/25
AG
GIF Reactor said:
Excellent list, but I think as one of only 6 people with the career grand slam, he belongs on the next list up.
Agreed with moving up due to the grand slam.

Also his inter-major period was a majors drought but he did well at just about everything else in that time. Multiple Players, multiple Euro and multiple PGA end of season tour titles.
Reply Quote
JCA1
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Chipotlemonger • 3:19p, 4/14/25
AG
Chipotlemonger said:
GIF Reactor said:
Excellent list, but I think as one of only 6 people with the career grand slam, he belongs on the next list up.
Agreed with moving up due to the grand slam.

Also his inter-major period was a majors drought but he did well at just about everything else in that time. Multiple Players, multiple Euro and multiple PGA end of season tour titles.


Good points. Not sure exactly how to slot them but it feels like the Players and the FedEx cup titles should be somewhere between a regular tour win and a major.
Reply Quote
Hubert J. Farnsworth
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
3:22p, 4/14/25
Where would Phil be ranked had he won just one of those US Opens that he choked away? That would have made 7 majors for him. It would have put him in that small group that has a career grand slam. He's also the oldest player to ever win a major. 6 majors is nothing to sneeze at, but I think winning just one of those US Opens(6 runner up finishes) and completing the career grand slam would have changed how people view him ranking wise.
Reply Quote
1 edit
GIF Reactor
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to JCA1 • 3:42p, 4/14/25
AG
JCA1 said:
Chipotlemonger said:
GIF Reactor said:
Excellent list, but I think as one of only 6 people with the career grand slam, he belongs on the next list up.
Agreed with moving up due to the grand slam.

Also his inter-major period was a majors drought but he did well at just about everything else in that time. Multiple Players, multiple Euro and multiple PGA end of season tour titles.


Good points. Not sure exactly how to slot them but it feels like the Players and the FedEx cup titles should be somewhere between a regular tour win and a major.
The Players is practically the 5th major now. I don't know how to rank the FedEx cup titles.

Rory's contributions to the Ryder Cup should be considered. He has been involved in 5 wins in 7 Cups thus far.
Reply Quote
4
GIF Reactor
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Hubert J. Farnsworth • 3:50p, 4/14/25
AG
Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
Where would Phil be ranked had he won just one of those US Opens that he choked away? That would have made 7 majors for him. It would have put him in that small group that has a career grand slam. He's also the oldest player to ever win a major. 6 majors is nothing to sneeze at, but I think winning just one of those US Opens(6 runner up finishes) and completing the career grand slam would have changed how people view him ranking wise.
He should have definitely won the US Open at Winged Foot in 2006. He'd be up in that next list with that win.
Reply Quote
JCA1
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to GIF Reactor • 4:06p, 4/14/25
AG
GIF Reactor said:
Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
Where would Phil be ranked had he won just one of those US Opens that he choked away? That would have made 7 majors for him. It would have put him in that small group that has a career grand slam. He's also the oldest player to ever win a major. 6 majors is nothing to sneeze at, but I think winning just one of those US Opens(6 runner up finishes) and completing the career grand slam would have changed how people view him ranking wise.
He should have definitely won the US Open at Winged Foot in 2006. He'd be up in that next list with that win.


Much like Barkley with Jordan, Phil also had the unfortunate luck of playing the bulk of his prime golf against prime Tiger. He nevertheless put together a pretty incredible resume.
Reply Quote
PJYoung
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
4:17p, 4/14/25
AG
Rory has every chance to add to his total this season now that the monkey is off his back.
Reply Quote
1
Bunk Moreland
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to PJYoung • 4:28p, 4/14/25
That's the big thing to me. We'll see if this allows him to finally relax his anus and if so, will we see another prime run in his career.
Reply Quote
Aggie Dad Sip
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Milwaukees Best Light • 5:50p, 4/14/25
Milwaukees Best Light said:
Where do you think Rory sits in the historical hierarchy of golfers? Just for argument sake, let's say he doesn't win any more majors and doesn't have any long streak as world number one.

He's a Hall of Famer for sure, but I don't know if he's in the Top 10 yet. I would go with the following (in no particular order after Jack & Tiger)…
1. Jack
2. Tiger
3. Hogan
4. Arnie
5. Sam Snead
6. Tom Watson
7. Byron Nelson
8. Bobby Jones
9. Lee Trevino
10. Seve
11. Phil
12. Faldo
13. Hagen
14. Gary Player
15. Rory
Reply Quote
1
Ag_07
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
6:38p, 4/14/25
AG

Reply Quote
4
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.