He was originally committed to there and followed Earley here when we hired him to be the hitting coach. Makes sense.jja79 said:
Didn't a local poster say he was going to Arizona State if Earley wasn't hired last year?
Earley needs to go Monday
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I honestly don't think they quit. I saw the look on Jace and Pragers faces in the dugout after the game, the look was disbelief. Just because they played like crap and have been inconsistent, doesn't mean they aren't trying or have quit. No matter how talented you are, the little things really matter in baseball - and those largely fall on your coaches. Approach at the plate, in game strategy, fielder position, pitching changes, lineup order, all that stuff matters - as does team preparation/mindset. I think we could all go through examples of these things where Earley blew it and just wasn't ready. I think we all thought he would be learning on the job, but he was way worse than anyone expected - especially with whatever changes he made offensively. As far as the players go, did the team stop trying yesterday? No. Did they cut corners in the offseason and maybe during non conference because their buddy was the HC? No one knows but them, but it sure seems like a possibility and maybe some of those looks were self reflective.
Ultimately, you can't have an ultra talented team and a zero for a head coach. Earley has probably been one of the worst two coaches in the SEC this year and our record reflects that. I think we all have the same looks on our faces as Jace and Prager - disbelief.
Ultimately, you can't have an ultra talented team and a zero for a head coach. Earley has probably been one of the worst two coaches in the SEC this year and our record reflects that. I think we all have the same looks on our faces as Jace and Prager - disbelief.
LatinAggie1997 said:
Have a great day!
The topic was blame and if Earley deserves to be fired. I dislike how the season went. I also know Schloss didn't win it all last year as a veteran coach with a better team.
I want to win and hope it happens regardless of the staff. I have no feelings on whether Earley is retained or fired. However, I do question those that blame him for everything even the accidental wins vs 3 top 5 teams.
I want to congratulate you on this post. I have tried to type a response 3 times and deleted because it's such a whistling past the graveyard, trains going in opposite directions post. My favorite part is you don't have an opinion on Earley but you question others that do.
Huh?!?
Bear Bryant used to say everyone wants to win. However, not everyone does what is required to win.
Here's what Earley said as the problem yesterday:
That has pretty much been story whenever we struggle at the plate. Earley has diagnosed the problem, but he hasn't been able to get the players to fix it. That's the job. To get the players (who effectively got you the job) to do what they are supposed to do. Earley hasn't figure out how to do that, yet.Quote:
"Just chasing too many pitches. Period," Earley said. "That was 100 percent the issue. Sometimes a chase gets looked at on strike three, but sometimes it's the chase in 1-0 or 0-1 that completely changes the count.
"We did a lot of that tonight, and that's not conducive to success and playing a complete game of baseball."
Partly agree, but stick to baseball...YellowPot_97 said:This right here. We bet it all on Jimbo and crapped out. Now we're broke and every sport is going to suffer for years because of it.Evanhue said:
The Jimbo deal crushed our athletic program for a decade.
There are plenty of coaches out there (with real HC experience) that would've taken the A&M job. We just rushed to fill the gap last time and didn't trust the process. We listened to players instead of listening to experience. Yah, we might have lost a couple players in the process, but looking at the results of the quick hire now - would it have mattered? I'd think another coach with a completely different team could've finished in 14th place in the SEC.
Wabs said:Pichael Thompson said:
Lmao
He's not going anywhere
He's here at least one more... probably 2
If so, we know how much old Trev cares about the baseball program.
Alberts was hired for a few years to slash spending after the Jimbo disaster. Of course he doesn't care about baseball.
this is falseYellowPot_97 said:Evanhue said:
The Jimbo deal crushed our athletic program for a decade.
This right here. We bet it all on Jimbo and crapped out. Now we're broke and every sport is going to suffer for years because of it.
That response from Earley pisses me off. Something 100% changed in their approach this year and that's the single most infuriating thing that has probably been the biggest difference in this team not succeeding. We seem to be taking first pitch strikes every single ab, so we typically get behind in the count because teams know we do that and respond by pumping meatballs since they know we won't swing. We also seem to have put an emphasis on hitting homers - very analytics esq. So what could go wrong - get behind in the count and swing for the fences ??? So stupid. The results are what you would expect. Lots of chasing, popouts, deep fly balls, and k's. When the ball is carrying, everyone is happy and we pour it on. When it isn't, we can't do anything for 15 innings against a previously winless team in conference.
100% on coaching.
100% on coaching.
FM 949 said:LatinAggie1997 said:
Have a great day!
The topic was blame and if Earley deserves to be fired. I dislike how the season went. I also know Schloss didn't win it all last year as a veteran coach with a better team.
I want to win and hope it happens regardless of the staff. I have no feelings on whether Earley is retained or fired. However, I do question those that blame him for everything even the accidental wins vs 3 top 5 teams.
I want to congratulate you on this post. I have tried to type a response 3 times and deleted because it's such a whistling past the graveyard, trains going in opposite directions post. My favorite part is you don't have an opinion on Earley but you question others that do.
Huh?!?
I question the rationale. It is quite simple. Many on here expect to be ahead in every game and when we aren't the sky is falling. Period. That is how they post. If we lose it's doomsday and it is all on the staff. When we win it somehow just happens. The game thread us always riddled with we suck, it's over, fire Earley, in over his head, before the game is even over, and we came back to win many of those. That spills over into the threads after a loss but the mid game mentality, and the season is over prior to it actually being over, is irrational, despite what the odds are .
There's a reason that saying has held true for so long. Especially when some these players are getting paid more than 90% of the worlds population for a season of college baseball, and just came off a cws final appearance, and had one of the countries biggest athletic departments basically allow them to pick the next head coach. I'm shocked they may have let them affect them….totally shocked.
twk said:
Here's what Earley said as the problem yesterday:That has pretty much been story whenever we struggle at the plate. Earley has diagnosed the problem, but he hasn't been able to get the players to fix it. That's the job. To get the players (who effectively got you the job) to do what they are supposed to do. Earley hasn't figure out how to do that, yet.Quote:
"Just chasing too many pitches. Period," Earley said. "That was 100 percent the issue. Sometimes a chase gets looked at on strike three, but sometimes it's the chase in 1-0 or 0-1 that completely changes the count.
"We did a lot of that tonight, and that's not conducive to success and playing a complete game of baseball."
We watch perfect pitches during the at bat and then spend our time swinging at out pitches. It's the worst combination. It's no surprise we did our best when guys started attacking the first pitch. We're so stuck in figuring out our strategy on how to approach at bats.
Numerous deflection statements by the head coach are typically a sign of the beginning of the end.
Bunk Moreland said:twk said:
Here's what Earley said as the problem yesterday:That has pretty much been story whenever we struggle at the plate. Earley has diagnosed the problem, but he hasn't been able to get the players to fix it. That's the job. To get the players (who effectively got you the job) to do what they are supposed to do. Earley hasn't figure out how to do that, yet.Quote:
"Just chasing too many pitches. Period," Earley said. "That was 100 percent the issue. Sometimes a chase gets looked at on strike three, but sometimes it's the chase in 1-0 or 0-1 that completely changes the count.
"We did a lot of that tonight, and that's not conducive to success and playing a complete game of baseball."
We watch perfect pitches during the at bat and then spend our time swinging at out pitches. It's the worst combination. It's no surprise we did our best when guys started attacking the first pitch. We're so stuck in figuring out our strategy on how to approach at bats.
This. So much this. And it's right there. Start looking for that first pitch meat ball. Nope, let's get behind every single at bat and chase garbage.
It's idiotic.
I would be curious to know how often the guys are getting red lights. a good coach does it very rarely bc if he's doing his job right the best players should be able to have competitive at bats on their own without much influence.twk said:
Here's what Earley said as the problem yesterday:That has pretty much been story whenever we struggle at the plate. Earley has diagnosed the problem, but he hasn't been able to get the players to fix it. That's the job. To get the players (who effectively got you the job) to do what they are supposed to do. Earley hasn't figure out how to do that, yet.Quote:
"Just chasing too many pitches. Period," Earley said. "That was 100 percent the issue. Sometimes a chase gets looked at on strike three, but sometimes it's the chase in 1-0 or 0-1 that completely changes the count.
"We did a lot of that tonight, and that's not conducive to success and playing a complete game of baseball."
I have seen coaches take the best players confidence away when they over control the at bats. If this is taking place I am not surprised at what is taking place. If it's not this one, then it has to be another area that changed from last year that has not worked on the mental side of the game.
Longtime lurker who hardly chimes in on posts on texags. I've watched the majority of our games the last few years at home courtesy of the ESPN bundle. It's night and day with our hitting as Earley as the head coach. When POS was here, our batters appeared to make the opposing team's pitchers work. Even if the opposing pitcher had good stuff that night, they were still having to pitch 20 plus pitches an inning. On the opposite end, it appeared our starters, especially Prager, were getting an extra inning or two by not throwing as much. A week ago, LSUs starter on Saturday had only thrown 94 pitches in 8 innings. That's less than an average of 4 pitches per batter. As others have said, we look at too many strikes and swing at the crap. I noticed this the first two series, but knowing it's baseball, I wasn't overly concerned yet. This team had a good 3-week stretch of seeing their potential, but these past two games have been a microcosm of how this season has been. This has been the most frustrating season I've watched, and I hope the decisions don't push this program back years.
I think Schloss controlled red / green lights very tightly. It's imo more likely Earley is less controlling than Schloss was.
Thats not what I was informed. I was told you can swing at the first pitch, but it better be a strike.
Schloss said his approach in many of his interviews. He did not want guys swinging that often bc that works in the pitchers favor, and if you made a habit of swinging at bad pitches, he would not play you.
Schloss said his approach in many of his interviews. He did not want guys swinging that often bc that works in the pitchers favor, and if you made a habit of swinging at bad pitches, he would not play you.
LB12Diamond said:
Earley stating the players have not quit was a very telling comment after the game.
Darn right he's going to state that bc if the players that pushed for him have quit on him that's about the worst thing that could happen to him.
FYI, they look like they have quit to me and the statement was CYA in my opinion.
I don't know if you've listened to any of his interviews on radio this year after tough games/weekends which seems often, but this is the line every time. It seems to be all he's got.
I've heard, "This team has not given up" and "It's not for a lack of effort" too many times to count this year.
WhoopN06 said:
I think Schloss controlled red / green lights very tightly. It's imo more likely Earley is less controlling than Schloss was.
The best coaches are the ones that control literally every aspect of a program. Nick Saban is the ultimate control freak, it's a personality thing
OA_02 said:
That response from Earley pisses me off. Something 100% changed in their approach this year and that's the single most infuriating thing that has probably been the biggest difference in this team not succeeding. We seem to be taking first pitch strikes every single ab, so we typically get behind in the count because teams know we do that and respond by pumping meatballs since they know we won't swing. We also seem to have put an emphasis on hitting homers - very analytics esq. So what could go wrong - get behind in the count and swing for the fences ??? So stupid. The results are what you would expect. Lots of chasing, popouts, deep fly balls, and k's. When the ball is carrying, everyone is happy and we pour it on. When it isn't, we can't do anything for 15 innings against a previously winless team in conference.
100% on coaching.
What's been lost going from an elite proven head coach to a guy learning on the job is the importance of the process. When Schloss was hired we started hearing about all of these weird things he was doing like making the guys high 5 every time they passed each other.
It's weird you bring up the first pitch thing because that was a huge part of our offense under Schloss. We were just leaps and bounds better with 2 strikes. We had the same feast or famine offense, we just hit more HRs.
Earley ain't getting fired. Worthless threads are dumb
I think Earley was the hitting coach like Darrell Dickey was Jimbo's offensive coordinator.
Yes, I have heard them, and I might have missed it, but this is the first time I heard the word quit stated.
Not in this specific area with my experience. In this one area its over coaching and takes confidence way from the best players. I can explain in person over a beer in the future. I don't feel like typing a lot today.HoustonAg2106 said:WhoopN06 said:
I think Schloss controlled red / green lights very tightly. It's imo more likely Earley is less controlling than Schloss was.
The best coaches are the ones that control literally every aspect of a program. Nick Saban is the ultimate control freak, it's a personality thing
sixfoot said:
Monday is not soon enough.
Clearly HE is the problem. The talent is there or they wouldn't beat #1 and #2 seeds in the country. This is ALL on him.
While I agree that he doesn't appear ready for the job, we have a multi-million dollar payroll full of guys yucking it up in the dugout while a cellar-dweller kicks our ass. At some point the guys actually playing the games need to be held accountable also. This is the system they wanted so it's on them just as much or more than the coach they chose.
LB12Diamond said:Not in this specific area with my experience. In this one area its over coaching and takes confidence way from the best players. I can explain in person over a beer in the future. I don't feel like typing a lot today.HoustonAg2106 said:WhoopN06 said:
I think Schloss controlled red / green lights very tightly. It's imo more likely Earley is less controlling than Schloss was.
The best coaches are the ones that control literally every aspect of a program. Nick Saban is the ultimate control freak, it's a personality thing
I'm confused, the poster I was responding to said that Schloss was more controlling than Earley and that Earley is more laid back. What are you arguing?
my theory on the offense...
after the Arkansas series...the league took notice...and A&M got re-scouted.
t.u., LSU, and Mizzou studied what happened in Fayetteville -- studied where the Hogs' pitching approach, selection, and execution went wrong. And did not repeat that approach or those mistakes.
and in the last 3 weeks; Earley, his staff, and the players have not been able to adjust back
after the Arkansas series...the league took notice...and A&M got re-scouted.
t.u., LSU, and Mizzou studied what happened in Fayetteville -- studied where the Hogs' pitching approach, selection, and execution went wrong. And did not repeat that approach or those mistakes.
and in the last 3 weeks; Earley, his staff, and the players have not been able to adjust back
LB12Diamond said:
Earley stating the players have not quit was a very telling comment after the game.
Darn right he's going to state that bc if the players that pushed for him have quit on him that's about the worst thing that could happen to him.
FYI, they look like they have quit to me and the statement was CYA in my opinion.
I quit listening to coach interviews years ago and this is a prime example of why. All they do is say what's needed to "CYA"
Zero honesty
It's not the really important point in this discussion but who doesn't want to play for a&m without Early? Strike that -- who doesn't want to be paid to play at a&m without Early? If I were in the athletic dept and wanted to know, I would know. I would consider it my job to know. They probably do know. They certainly should. This should not be the mystery inside the program that it is on the outside.Lance Uppercut said:
The problem is you have someone learning on the job...
...but you also don't know if Grahovac, Sorrell, Kiel and the #5 recruiting class stick around if he's gone.
Fanbase would have reluctantly accepted a setback season, but not this humiliation.
I know baseball won't get an AD fired, but if Trev doesn't step in with a strong move, he'll be greasing up the skids for his exit.
I know baseball won't get an AD fired, but if Trev doesn't step in with a strong move, he'll be greasing up the skids for his exit.
Maroon Flash
Getting a random guy off the street and it would be hard to do any worse this year.
Where is the nearest graveyard outside of Fayetteville?!?
Getting swept by Missouri means you had the team exceptionally unprepared.
The coach was hired specifically to keep a weekend like this from happening. Couple that with people close to the program trying to continue to lobby on his behalf, and we're in a bad spot.
If they can't find a way into the postseason (basically winning the SEC tournament) you have to consider ripping off the Band-Aid.
The coach was hired specifically to keep a weekend like this from happening. Couple that with people close to the program trying to continue to lobby on his behalf, and we're in a bad spot.
If they can't find a way into the postseason (basically winning the SEC tournament) you have to consider ripping off the Band-Aid.
You still think this?OA_02 said:
I honestly don't think they quit.
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