Earley needs to go Monday

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If Earley is retained after the complete and unprecedented disaster this year has been, it is a clear sign that Alberts is not a serious AD and we are not a serious program, at least in terms of trying to win championships.
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Exactly. In today's age, you can build a good roster immediately with the right hire/NIL support.

A more recent example is Wes Johnson at UGA last year. National seed in year 1 and almost surely will be at least a regional host in year 2. And he wasn't even a coach with a ton of skins on the wall (as a HC).

It's definitely possible to be back in the hosting conversation by at least year 2.
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Texas stealing Schlossnagle set this program back at least 3 years
How?

People keep saying stuff like this.

And yet literally no one can say How.
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Very disappointed to login and not see a firing announcement for entire staff.
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Maroon Flash said:

Very disappointed to login and not see a firing announcement for entire staff.
The entire staff? Who coaches the team for its last 4+ games?
Agryan00
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Lemonis got fired and Miss St. got better.

Its never too Earley.

But pretty sure he is coming back next year.
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jkag89 said:

Maroon Flash said:

Very disappointed to login and not see a firing announcement for entire staff.
The entire staff? Who coaches the team for its last 4+ games?


Gary Darnell
Captain Pablo
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or Joe Kines
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LB12Diamond said:

Pretty sure that only implies during the school year. Schools out.
From what I can gather from google is that CARA limitations are for the "playing season" with no mention of whether school is in session or not. Also CARA requires one day off a week.
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College athletes still have to go to school?
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Agryan00 said:

Lemonis got fired and Miss St. got better.

Its never too Earley.

But pretty sure he is coming back next year.

Did they fire the ENTIRE staff at State? No, they at least retained assistant coach Justin Parker as the interim and I assume most of the rest of the staff has been retained until the end of their season.
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So why even mention it on the radio if it's a requirement.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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powerbelly said:

LB12Diamond said:

Pretty sure that only implies during the school year. Schools out.
I think you are correct, but they may still have to give one off day per week.


Seemed like they took Sunday off…
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LB12Diamond said:

So why even mention it on the radio if it's a requirement.
How should I know? Have you done any checking to see if CARA requirements end when school is out or are you just assuming?

EDIT: I'm not trying to defend how Earley has lead he team this year. If I'm wrong about the CARA restrictions I will gladly admit it.
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Fairview20 said:

Exactly. In today's age, you can build a good roster immediately with the right hire/NIL support.

A more recent example is Wes Johnson at UGA last year. National seed in year 1 and almost surely will be at least a regional host in year 2. And he wasn't even a coach with a ton of skins on the wall (as a HC).

It's definitely possible to be back in the hosting conversation by at least year 2.


This is why it's my favorite sport. Yes we got screwed over by schloss, but being a top 10 destination with one of the biggest NIL bases and fan support, we could bring quality talent in to hold us off a year or two while we recruit. I do believe recruits when nattys, but being a competitive team that has an Omaha identity while we build that would be ideal. But what do I know
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sixfoot said:

Monday is not soon enough.

Clearly HE is the problem. The talent is there or they wouldn't beat #1 and #2 seeds in the country. This is ALL on him.


Or we're they're Missouri.
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Athletic Department "sackless" day 1.

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Great2BeAnAGGIE said:

Athletic Department "sackless" day 1.




You are in for a long off season
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jkag89 said:

Maroon Flash said:

Very disappointed to login and not see a firing announcement for entire staff.
The entire staff? Who coaches the team for its last 4+ games?
Mike Leak
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flakrat said:

Ghost of Bisbee said:

Flakrat, how you been doing? Feel like you've been gone for years

Been good, mostly lurk these days. Living the good life in East Tennessee.

How have you been?


Hanging in there, waiting for an Aggie natty!
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Athletic Department "sackless" day 2.
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We should have hired an experienced HC, not a "position coach" or coordinator. This is not like football where a DC or OC is as close as you can get to being a HC.

As well, Texas A&M, really any SEC baseball program not named Mizzou, is NOT a place where you hire a guy for OJT as it is his first HC job.

I would have been happy with the Bama or OU coach, or Matt Deggs. Earley just was and is not ready.

I think Earley will be given another year, but if he doesn't fire that t.u. cow hitting coach / OC he brought over within 24 hours of the season being over, there is no hope. I would also replace the pitching coach, he never has the bullpen ready and no read for when to make a pitching change.
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As well, Texas A&M, really any SEC baseball program not named Mizzou, is NOT a place where you hire a guy for OJT as it is his first HC job.
The strike against Earely IMO is not that he had never been a head coach but that he was not ready to assume the position.

SEC Coaches with little or no head coaching experience before being hired at the current jobs
Butch Thompson (Auburn) - One year as a junior college head coach 20 seasons before being hired by Auburn
Kevin O'Sullivan (Florida)
Wes Johnson (Georgia) - Three years as a high school head coach
Nick Mingione (Kentucky)
Tony Vitello (Tennessee)

All five have had success with their current teams and only Wes Johnson (second season) has taken at least one team to Omaha.
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twk said:

Here's what Earley said as the problem yesterday:

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"Just chasing too many pitches. Period," Earley said. "That was 100 percent the issue. Sometimes a chase gets looked at on strike three, but sometimes it's the chase in 1-0 or 0-1 that completely changes the count.

"We did a lot of that tonight, and that's not conducive to success and playing a complete game of baseball."
That has pretty much been story whenever we struggle at the plate. Earley has diagnosed the problem, but he hasn't been able to get the players to fix it. That's the job. To get the players (who effectively got you the job) to do what they are supposed to do. Earley hasn't figure out how to do that, yet.
This is not an easy skill. It's why people wash out of baseball. Sometimes it's in your head (pressure, not confident, not slowing down your eyes, being too aggressive, etc). You can give them the tools but they have to do it in the box. Familiarity helps. I'm sure we have VR and pitching machines that can be programmed to an opposing pitcher, etc to help practice.
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Thisguy1 said:

OA_02 said:

That response from Earley pisses me off. Something 100% changed in their approach this year and that's the single most infuriating thing that has probably been the biggest difference in this team not succeeding. We seem to be taking first pitch strikes every single ab, so we typically get behind in the count because teams know we do that and respond by pumping meatballs since they know we won't swing. We also seem to have put an emphasis on hitting homers - very analytics esq. So what could go wrong - get behind in the count and swing for the fences ??? So stupid. The results are what you would expect. Lots of chasing, popouts, deep fly balls, and k's. When the ball is carrying, everyone is happy and we pour it on. When it isn't, we can't do anything for 15 innings against a previously winless team in conference.

100% on coaching.


What's been lost going from an elite proven head coach to a guy learning on the job is the importance of the process. When Schloss was hired we started hearing about all of these weird things he was doing like making the guys high 5 every time they passed each other.

It's weird you bring up the first pitch thing because that was a huge part of our offense under Schloss. We were just leaps and bounds better with 2 strikes. We had the same feast or famine offense, we just hit more HRs.
Yes. The key was to get into the bullpen - which is where our hitters would win the game.
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I don't have the time to look at this, but it's a very interesting hypothesis that is probably correct. This would be a good Brauny question. Do you know what pitches are being thrown less or more? I have a suspicion but I would like to know what you think.
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another thought on this situation...particularly comparing Earley to Childress (who was also inexperienced when he became the head coach in 2006)...

heading into year 2 (in 2007)...Childress already had a very good pitching coach (himself) on his coaching staff. And he also already had a very good hitting coach (Deggs) on his staff.

most people would say that Earley has neither (or would have neither) heading into year 2
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I believe he will be fired for this one particular, very important reason:

There is no way you could approach rich boosters, in ANY sport, and expect them to donate millions (collectively) while at the same time retaining such a colossal failure.

There might be a few gullible, gung-ho, or don't care boosters that will fork over big money no matter, but those I believe are few and far between. The credibility of Alberts and every single person that works towards our NIL $ is now on the line.

If you retain Earley after this, and ask boosters for money, you are pretty much insulting them in their face.
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jkag89 said:

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As well, Texas A&M, really any SEC baseball program not named Mizzou, is NOT a place where you hire a guy for OJT as it is his first HC job.
The strike against Earely IMO is not that he had never been a head coach but that he was not ready to assume the position.

SEC Coaches with little or no head coaching experience before being hired at the current jobs
Butch Thompson (Auburn) - One year as a junior college head coach 20 seasons before being hired by Auburn
Kevin O'Sullivan (Florida)
Wes Johnson (Georgia) - Three years as a high school head coach
Nick Mingione (Kentucky)
Tony Vitello (Tennessee)

All five have had success with their current teams and only Wes Johnson (second season) has taken at least one team to Omaha.



Tony Vitello's sixteen years of little or no head coaching experience:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Vitello
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Coaching career (HC unless noted)
2002 Salinas Packers (assoc. head coach)
20032010 Missouri (asst.)
20112013 TCU (asst.)
20142017 Arkansas (asst.)
.........
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I was responding to a post which stated that a SEC school should not (or at least shy away) from hiring an assistant coach to fill a baseball HC position.. I agree it was a risk to hire Earely with his lack of experience in the dugout and have stated that on several threads. The point I was trying to convey was that a well seasoned assistants have had success in this league and should not be dismissed out of hand if/when we depart ways with Earley. While I would prefer an established or at least up and coming head coach I also believe we would be better off hiring a top notch assistant over a solid mid major coach. Heefner or Godwin, Great! Deggs, not so much.
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if Deggs is the replacement, I am done.
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FM 949 said:

if Deggs is the replacement, I am done.


Deggs is not the guy to call.

But we all know Trev "Save Yoouuu Money" Alberts isn't going to do a thing.
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Going to find out real soon what ole Trevy boy is made of...and what he's got between his ears....
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Trev isn't the one that calls the shots on things like this.

He offered Beard over $10M/year between salary and NIL commitments to be our basketball coach. He just does what the major power brokers instruct him to. If someone wants to pay up to buy out Earley and make a run at a big name, I bet that is what we would do.
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Yeah Trev will be told what to do and how much to spend. He'll then go out and report back on viable options, and the selection will be by entities other than him.
 
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