Irish scientists believe unproven drug touted by Donald Trump could be used to treat COVID-19


https://www.msn.com/en-ie/health/medical/irish-scientists-believe-unproven-drug-touted-by-donald-trump-could-be-used-to-treat-covid-19/ar-BB178LOQ

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A team of Irish scientists believes that they have discovered a new way of using a drug touted by US President Donald Trump to treat COVID-19.


Trump came in for criticism in recent months when he claimed to be taking a preventative dose of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug, to protect against COVID-19 despite expert warnings that its efficacy as a treatment was unproven and that its consumption outside the bounds of authorised prescriptions could be dangerous.


In May, the World Health Organisation (WHO) suspended trials investigating the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine as COVID-19 treatment after a study was published in medical journal the Lancet suggesting that there was a slightly higher mortality rate among coronavirus patients who received the drug.


The WHO stressed that the safety of hydroxyhloroquine as an anti-malaria drug is not in doubt.


However, an Irish team of researchers that includes chemists and pharmacists has suggested that the inhalation rather than the ingestion of hydroxychloroquine may prove more effective as a COVID-19 treatment while requiring a lower dosage.


The novel method of administering hydroxychloroquine occurred to Cork-based retired pharmacist John Farragher during the early stages of lockdown, prompting him to reach out to other scientists through the Science Foundation Ireland Research Centre for Pharmaceuticals (SSPC).


Mr Farragher told the Irish Mirror: 'I thought it most desirable that the dose should be lowered but wondered how we might achieve this but still retain the efficacy. It looked impossible until it struck me that the disease is initially a respiratory infection and as such it could be treated in the lungs before it spread throughout the body.


'Lungs constitute less than 2% of body weight so if we could treat them with a low dose of HCQ, about 2% of normal dose, we could avoid the side-effects

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I love the irony of you bolding the part about the American media politicizing HQC as you post non-stop about it.

Federale01 said:

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I love the irony of you bolding the part about the American media politicizing HQC as you post non-stop about it.

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I remember when Picadillo was considered a wing-bat conspiracy guy on F16, years ago. Now he just seems to blend in to the general population there.

I don't know why these guys don't want you posting these?

Weird. Read them or don't. People Trying to sensor your posts are ridiculous. My Dr is having real success with HCQ, that's just a fact.

It's a discussion forum.

And I discussed the comment. I didn't ask for its removal. Not sure where the victim complex comes from.

Yale epidemiologist story now picked up by Newsweek


The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It | Opinion

Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD , Professor of Epidemiology, Yale School of Public Health
On 7/23/20 at 7:00 AM EDT



https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535

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As professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, I have authored over 300 peer-reviewed publications and currently hold senior positions on the editorial boards of several leading journals. I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines. As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly.


I am referring, of course, to the medication hydroxychloroquine. When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective, especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.


On May 27, I published an article in the American Journal of Epidemiology (AJE) entitled, "Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk COVID-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis." That article, published in the world's leading epidemiology journal, analyzed five studies, demonstrating clear-cut and significant benefits to treated patients, plus other very large studies that showed the medication safety.


Physicians who have been using these medications in the face of widespread skepticism have been truly heroic. They have done what the science shows is best for their patients, often at great personal risk. I myself know of two doctors who have saved the lives of hundreds of patients with these medications, but are now fighting state medical boards to save their licenses and reputations. The cases against them are completely without scientific merit.

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"Third, concerns have been raised by the FDA and others about risks of cardiac arrhythmia, especially when hydroxychloroquine is given in combination with azithromycin. The FDA based its comments on data in its FDA Adverse Event Reporting System. This reporting system captured up to a thousand cases of arrhythmias attributed to hydroxychloroquine use. In fact, the number is likely higher than that, since the reporting system, which requires physicians or patients to initiate contact with the FDA, appreciably undercounts drug side effects.

But what the FDA did not announce is that these adverse events were generated from tens of millions of patient uses of hydroxychloroquine for long periods of time, often for the chronic treatment of lupus or rheumatoid arthritis. Even if the true rates of arrhythmia are ten-fold higher than those reported, the harms would be minuscule compared to the mortality occurring right now in inadequately treated high-risk COVID-19 patients. This fact is proven by an Oxford University study of more than 320,000 older patients taking both hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, who had arrhythmia excess death rates of less than 9/100,000 users, as I discuss in my May 27 paper cited above. A new paper in the American Journal of Medicine by established cardiologists around the world fully agrees with this."

Press Conference - America's Frontline Doctors Summit (includes Dr Stella Immanuel speech from above)






America's Frontline Doctors Summit- Session 2



It appears there will be a third session tomorrow




https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/

Local doctor sees success treating COVID-19 patients with 'HCQ cocktail'

https://kyma.com/news/2020/07/24/local-doctor-sees-success-treating-covid-19-patients-with-hcq-cocktail/

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IMPERIAL COUNTY, Calif. (KYMA, KECY)-Dr. George Fareed finds success in treating coronavirus patients with a combination of a hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) cocktail made out of azithromycin or doxycycline and zinc.


For three months now, Dr. Fareed has been using the HCQ cocktail to treat patients at Pioneers Memorial Healthcare District and an outpatient clinic in Brawley.


"Hydroxychloroquine along with zinc and either azithromycin or doxycycline and it's based upon now many studies from colleagues around the world. It's shown to be an effective treatment and that's what we need," said Dr. George Fareed, physician.


Saving many lives who have been hit with the virus, Fareed says it's all thanks to the combination cocktail he's prescribed to patients.


The uses of hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus has sparked national debate after studies have claimed that using it can lead to serious side effects. The FDA has also warned against its use, but Fareed says it's a drug that doctors have been using for years to treat malaria, lupus, and arthritis.


"We need to alleviate the fear in the population that they should know that they can take something that will help them avoid pneumonia and deterioration that we want to see stopped. I work at Pioneers hospital and as an outpatient medical director. We've seen thousands of patients and our results have been very favorable," said Fareed.


Fareed has written a letter to president Trump and the presidential task force saying we need a drastic shift in our approach in fighting the virus.


Presenting his findings and of his colleagues who have found success treating patients with the hydroxychloroquine cocktail.


Fareed believes the HCQ cocktail is the answer in helping fight the virus.

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DadHammer said:

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I don't know why these guys don't want you posting these?

Weird. Read them or don't. People Trying to sensor your posts are ridiculous. My Dr is having real success with HCQ, that's just a fact.

It's a discussion forum.

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DadHammer,

This thread is the definition of confirmation bias. There is no attempt to find truth or learn more about HCQ. It is to filter out any negative anecdotes, studies, expert opinions and present only positive ones, regardless of the quality of the source or information. At least the other thread encouraged rational debate. We shouldn't cherry pick information based on whether or not it confirms our prior beliefs.

The evidence is becoming overwhelming in favor of early use HCQ, in a lot of people's opinions. My Dr says it's working. With the inhaled steroid I believe it may even Be more effective.

The title does state success stories so it is bias to successful events. You could start a thread that lists unsuccessful stories if you want.

If you want more medical advice from your COVID hero, youtube still has this video of her's up...

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In her sermon, Immanuel offers a sort of demonology of "nephilim," the biblical characters she claims exist as demonic spirits and lust after dream sex with humans, causing all matter of real health problems and financial ruin. Immanuel claims real-life ailments such as fibroid tumors and cysts stem from the demonic sperm after demon dream sex, an activity she claims affects "many women."

"They turn into a woman and then they sleep with the man and collect his sperm," Immanuel said in her sermon. "Then they turn into the man and they sleep with a man and deposit the sperm and reproduce more of themselves."

Immanuel's bizarre medical ideas don't stop with demon sex in dreams. In a 2015 sermon that laid out a supposed Illuminati plan hatched by "a witch" to destroy the world using abortion, gay marriage, and children's toys, among other things, Immanuel claimed that DNA from space aliens is currently being used in medicine.

"They're using all kinds of DNA, even alien DNA, to treat people," Immanuel said.

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Demon sex? I guess she knows my ex-wife.

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Dr Immanuel has been censored by YouTube but has been picked up by *****ute. Rush spent several minutes today discussing her and her group.


https://www.*****ute.com/video/HeC0tHZDX7dk/


Her personal beliefs don't matter to me. She and her group are seeing incredible results.

Edit: looks like the *** chute link won't work as is; you'll have to fill in the blanks.

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She says things like demon sex, alien DNA, pregnant women screaming and "poof" her stomach deflates as the demons leave and she's no longer pregnant, etc.

And you believe she's telling the truth on the "incredible" results she's getting? Wow. Just unbelievable.

But a drug addict he listens to on the radio talked about her

Duncan Idaho said:

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But a drug addict he listens to on the radio talked about her

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The dots are starting to connect. You think the truck driver turned vitamin IV guy is using alien DNA?

Any word on Alex Jones's stance on using demon sex and HCQ to stop covid?

I think the fundamental "issue" here is that 99%+ of individuals who contract COVID-19 survive. The vast majority of which never set foot within a hospital. Whether you take HCQ or drink 7-Up while doing the Hokey-Pokey your probability of survival is extremely high. It is insane that a random drug like HCQ has become politicized to the point where a "Warrior-Patriot" demon hunter's video is being retweeted by the President of the United States.

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Good lord. You liberal "geniuses" can't help yourself in attempting to undermine Dr Stella's RESULTS by poking at her evangelical Christianity to cast doubt.

You should be ashamed, but I know you won't be, because you're justified in tearing her down because of her "weird beliefs".

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