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Countries using HCQ to treat COVID have lower fatality rates

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The earlier SWAB-COVID-19 paper recommended a dose of 2 x 400 mg hydroxychloroquine sulfate on day 1, then 2 x 200 mg hydroxychloroquine sulfate on days 2-5. This is supported by pharmacokinetic simulations, which predict an adequate lung concentration and calculate that a loading dose is required to achieve an effective dose in a short time.

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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

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chjoak said:

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Countries using HCQ to treat COVID have lower fatality rates

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What a load of nonsense. Several of those countries listed as "no HCQ" like France, Spain, Italy, UK all used HCQ quite frequently. Also, most of the countries on the "no HCQ" use were hit with COVID early on in the pandemic when widespread testing was not available, meaning that they were only testing those that were hospitalized, falsely elevating their CFR.

Basically what I am saying is that this is a whole lot of nonsense. It doesn't help that this chart is being put out by the AAPS quacks.

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DadHammer said:

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Wrong

5-27-2020

"The French government on Wednesday revoked a decree authorising hospitals to prescribe the controversial drug for Covid-19 patients after France's public health watchdog warned against its use to treat the disease."

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Finally, several nations that had started using an aggressive early-use outpatient policy for hydroxychloroquine, including France and Switzerland, stopped this practice when the WHO temporarily withdrew its support for the drug. Five days after the publication of the fake Lancet study and the resulting media onslaught, Swiss politicians banned hydroxychloroquine use in the country from May 27 until June 11, when it was quickly reinstated.

The consequences of suddenly stopping hydroxychloroquine can be seen by examining a graph of the Case Fatality Ratio Index (nrCFR) for Switzerland. This is derived by dividing the number of daily new COVID fatalities by the new cases resolved over a period with a seven-day moving average. Looking at the evolution curve of the CFR it can be seen that during the weeks preceding the ban on hydroxychloroquine, the nrCFR index fluctuated between 3% and 5%.

Following a lag of 13 days after stopping outpatient hydroxychloroquine use, the country's COVID-19 deaths increased four-fold and the nrCFR index stayed elevated at the highest level it had been since early in the COVID pandemic, oscillating at over 10%-15%. Early outpatient hydroxychloroquine was restarted June 11 but the four-fold "wave of excess lethality" lasted until June 22, after which the nrCFR rapidly returned to its background value.

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Dr. Alieta Eck, who prescribed hydroxychloroquine for her patients who had COVID-19 symptoms, was confident the drug was safe.

"My feeling was that it was not going to do any harm, which is true. It's a very safe medicine," said Eck, an internist in New Jersey.

The Food and Drug Administration approved the use of hydroxychloroquine in 1955. The approved uses include treatment for malaria, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis. In late March of this year, the FDA issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine, which allowed state and local supplies of the drug to be supplemented from the strategic national stockpile.

"It is a very safe drug as far as drugs go," said Dr. Kevin Pham, a physician and a visiting policy analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation. "But we should remember that there are no drugs that are benign. All drugs that have some effect on the human body have the potential for a side effect."

A review of nine randomized controlled trials, often considered the gold standard for medical research, found that hydroxychloroquine caused greater skin pigmentation than a placebo. It did not cause other possible adverse events, such as dizziness, gastrointestinal distress, or vision problems. However, the research did not examine cardiovascular problems.

Pham noted that one well-known side effect of hydroxychloroquine is a "QT prolongation." A QT prolongation occurs when the heart muscle takes longer than normal to recharge between beats. It can result in an arrhythmia in which the heart beats faster than normal, a potentially deadly condition. A recent study of patients using hydroxychloroquine found that those with a history of heart disease and kidney disease were more susceptible to QT prolongation.

Eck, though, thinks that heart problems are not likely with short-term use.

"Any medicine you give for [only] five to seven days is probably not going to cause an arrhythmia," she said. "Once a person is already in the hospital with this disease, once they are already intubated, there is a host of reasons why they are going to start getting an arrhythmia. To blame hydroxychloroquine is almost unfair because the patient is probably on eight other drugs."

While some research shows that long-term use of the drug can cause heart problems, there is little evidence that it causes heart problems in otherwise healthy patients taking the drug for a short period.

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A Democratic New York City Councilman says hydroxychloroquine saved his life after a near-fatal run-in with COVID-19 in March.

Paul Vallone, who represents northeast Queens, took the drug along with a standard flu Z-pack, and came back from the brink almost immediately.

"I couldn't breathe, very weak, couldn't get out of bed. My doctor prescribed it. My pharmacy had it. Took it that day and within two to three days I was able to breathe," Vallone told The Post. "Within a week I was back on my feet."

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Lost actor Daniel Dae Kim has claimed that an antimalarial drug has left him feeling better after being diagnosed with coronavirus.

The Hawaii native was able to confirm he had contracted the bug by using a coronavirus test kit - which he says he will not use again due to the shortage of testing materials.

The age-defying star, 51, whose only symptom was congestion, took to Instagram to share his story on battling the virus on Saturday night.

Hawaii 5-0's Daniel explained that he was given a "drug cocktail" by his physician - which included antimalarial drug Hydroxychloroquine, which he says was "crucial" in battling the bug.

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For five days after catching the disease, Rio Giardinieri, 52, experienced horrendous back pain, headaches, cough and fatigue. Once diagnosed with the coronavirus and pneumonia, he was put on oxygen in the ICU, but after more than a week, he was told by doctors there was nothing more they could do. "I was at the point where I was barely able to speak and breathing was very challenging," Giardinieri said. "I really thought my end was there." Giardinieri even said goodbye to his wife and three children.

But, after receiving an article on hydroxychloroquine from a friend, he contacted an infectious disease doctor about it.

"He gave me all the reasons why I would probably not want to try it because there are no trials, there's no testing, it was not something that was approved," Giardinieri told Fox 11 in Los Angeles. "And I said, 'Look, I don't know if I'm going to make it until the morning,' because at that point I really thought I was coming to the end because I couldn't breathe anymore."

"He agreed and authorized the use of it and 30 minutes later the nurse gave it to me," Giardinieri continued.

He received an IV with the medicine, and despite some episodes he experienced during the treatment, by morning it was "like nothing ever happened." He's had no fever and has no trouble breathing anymore. He expects to be discharged from the hospital this week. "To me, there was no doubt in mind that I wouldn't make it until morning," said Giardinieri. "So to me, the drug saved my life."

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Sky News' story about "Turkey's COVID Detectives" by special correspondent Alex Crawford is remarkable. It not only covers the track and trace teams in action in Turkey, but also the therapeutic approach, which relies on hydroxychloroquine as a first step to treat symptomatic patients.

The Turkish approach is at odds with most countries, such as the UK, where symptomatic patients are asked to stay home, wait, until the symptoms essentially become unbearable, and then serious complications and hospitalization become very likely.

Such reporting about early treatment is typically absent from mainstream media coverage, so this coverage needs to be celebrated. The pictures are also remarkable.

"As soon as a patient has symptoms, they are treated with hydroxychloroquine tablets and/or favipiravir at home. Follow-up calls quickly spot if the symptoms worsen, and then they will be admitted to hospital."

"Once at the hospital, Dr Yiyit says the treatment is increased and combined with high-flow oxygen treatment, anti-coagulants, steroids, vitamins and more high-dose favipiravir or hydroxychloroquine"

"Most of patients recover in five days," Dr Yiyit insists."

See below graphs contrasting the US and Turkey showing how Turkey has contained the spread of the pandemic and achieved much lower fatalities per million inhabitants than the US.

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However, the COPCOV scientists say that the drug may still prove to be beneficial in preventing COVID-19 or treating the disease in its earlier stages, before patients are hospitalized. Nevertheless, there is still a lack of data on these issues highlighting the importance of trials like COPCOVthe only large, global trial investigating the drug for use as a preventative treatment.

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"Without a doubt, the hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) protocols helped me. I was prescribed hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and a steroid nebulizer. I also took zinc and some vitamins. I was still pretty weak but was completely symptom free in four days. It is a shame some people are politicizing the use of HCQ protocols and citing some debunked studies to claim HCQ is unsafe and should not be utilized as a treatment for coronavirus."

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A new initiative called "Zelfzorg covid19" (selfcare covid19), originating from the Netherlands, but with some Belgian (Dutch speaking) support, was launched online on May 8 and updated on July 23. It is now becoming internationally known.

Zelfzorg covid19 was initiated by Dr Rob Elens, a general practitioner in Meijel, with lots of experience in tropical diseases, including malaria, who was the first to use an hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin & zinc therapy, similar to the Zelenko protocol.

There was immense push back by the authorities, who threatened to withdraw his licence and right to practice medicine. He had accordingly to stop using hydroxychloroquine when treating patients.

He developed the initiative along with an entrepreneur, Evert de Block, who is especially concerned about the lockdown and its economic and social implications.

On the website, it's mentioned that in practice, the effects of supplements "appear to be sufficiently great to prevent or extinguish (mild) Covid19."

Instead of asking people with covid-19 symptoms to stay home, just having fluids and paracetamol, these doctors recommend an early treatment protocol, that includes supplements such as quercetin and zinc.

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Uganda's number of COVID-19 cases is only 0.028% of the number of U.S. COVID-19 cases; and Uganda's number of COVID-19 deaths is only 0.008% of the number of U.S. COVID-19 deaths. How can that be, when Uganda is one of the poorest countries in the world, with a per capita GDP of $769 (37.8% of the population in 2012 lived on less than $1.25 a day) and a poor healthcare system.

This is why:

Uganda is afflicted with malaria, a disease caused by parasites that enter the body through the bite of a mosquito.

Malaria is common in Africa. In 2012, Uganda had the 6th highest annual deaths from malaria in Africa.

Hydroxychloroquine is a drug used to treat or prevent malaria...

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Marcus Aurelius said:

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https://covidpep.umn.edu/

The results are coming. Soon.

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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

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The majority of COVID deaths came before that date in France while they were widely using it

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Marcus Aurelius said:

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https://covidpep.umn.edu/

The results are coming. Soon.

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Where in that study does it talk about the combo of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and ZINC? I could have missed it, but I didn't see it.

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Duncan Idaho said:

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But no zinc. Checkmate

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