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***** Marvel's What If? - Season 1 SPOILER (?) Discussion Thread *****
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Wow. The first episode was a big bag of "meh" for me, but the second episode was fantastic!
Thanks and gig'em
Loved the ship being named Mandela.
I think there is a fair criticism that last week was basically a one to one retelling.
In the first five minutes seeing a reformed Thanos, blonde Nebula, and a reformed Ravager is crazy.
Always good to hear Josh Brolin and damn it was moving to hear Chadwick one last time.
In the first five minutes seeing a reformed Thanos, blonde Nebula, and a reformed Ravager is crazy.
Always good to hear Josh Brolin and damn it was moving to hear Chadwick one last time.
Damn, choked up at the end there.
Also very nice stinger with Peter and Ego. It sounds like we get Chadwick in 3 more episodes so it might continue on.
Also very nice stinger with Peter and Ego. It sounds like we get Chadwick in 3 more episodes so it might continue on.
Wow that was fantastic. So much fun, hitting the perfect MCU tone, with the right pacing and terrific voice acting (unlike ep 1). Although it was only around thirty minutes it really felt like a full fledged film.
What a whiplash from such a fun story to that touching tribute but heart wrenching reminder that Chadwick is no longer with us.
What a whiplash from such a fun story to that touching tribute but heart wrenching reminder that Chadwick is no longer with us.
I thought this week's episode was meh compared to last week's Capt. Carter. I get it was cool they had Chad's voice there but that episode seemed to be all over the place...but then again it is a "what if".
I loved that episode. I have gotten more emotional about stuff as I push deep into my 40s, but that had all the feels. If Chadwick was still alive it would have been amazing and hilarious. With him dead and gone, it was both of those things and emotionally painful/powerful, especially him welcome home back to Wakanda at the end.
The Thanos stuff was some of the funniest **** I've seen in a long time with him still trying to argue that it's not actually genocide, as well as Korath being so invested in being Starlord's best friend.
Did Bautista turn them down or did they snub him? His delievery is so recognizable that it felt really weird not to have him there.
And bulked up superhero Collector was hilarious.
The Thanos stuff was some of the funniest **** I've seen in a long time with him still trying to argue that it's not actually genocide, as well as Korath being so invested in being Starlord's best friend.
Did Bautista turn them down or did they snub him? His delievery is so recognizable that it felt really weird not to have him there.
And bulked up superhero Collector was hilarious.
Bautista Said he never heard from any one about it. The director or whoever said that it was talked about if I recall. He is probably still butt hurt he didn't get his own movie or show
That was just great. Couldn't have been any more perfect a tribute if it was all written after he was gone.
One of the rare episodes that I felt like was a feature length film. I paused it 2/3 of the way through and was expecting it to show an hour. So much content, very well done!
I saw an article where Feige talked about Chadwick. Apparently he had so much fun being a little more laid back and chill in What If that they talked to Coogler about the sequel to allow Tchalla to have a bit more of that swagger
https://tvline.com/2021/08/18/chadwick-boseman-what-if-performance-influence-black-panther-sequel/
https://tvline.com/2021/08/18/chadwick-boseman-what-if-performance-influence-black-panther-sequel/
Thanos showing up in the latest #WhatIf be like pic.twitter.com/CctimuVKY4
— The MCU Judge (@JudgeMcu) August 18, 2021
Another thing I missed, no Gamora, no Rocket, no Groot. I get that it was more focused on the T'Challa story but with the GOTG tie-in, was at least hoping they made an appearance.
I actually liked not having to have EVERYBODY doing SOMETHING - it lets the story be what it is without having to shoehorn in the rest just to say "Oh hey, groot is now a horticulturist! Rocket is in therapy!"
Tons of Easter Eggs in this one - https://screenrant.com/marvel-what-if-episode-2-mcu-marvel-easter-eggs/
Sort of expected to see Groot and Rocket in one of the Collector's cells, but that might have been too on the nose.
Sort of expected to see Groot and Rocket in one of the Collector's cells, but that might have been too on the nose.
Hard disagree. I think this show would suck if every episode was essentially a basic retelling of movies we've already seen just with a different main character.AgTrip said:
I thought this week's episode was meh compared to last week's Capt. Carter. I get it was cool they had Chad's voice there but that episode seemed to be all over the place...but then again it is a "what if".
Looks like a version of an X-wing bottom row second from left. The writers have made a couple of remarks about how they would kill to have a Luke Skywalker / Avengers crossover if they could on What If
Pretty sure that is an X-Wing on the top row, left
I might see a TIE Interceptor bottom row we'll in the background
Thanks and gig'em
That's too bad. One of the things I loved about it is how all the main characters were the same folks as in the movies.Dro07 said:
Bautista Said he never heard from any one about it. The director or whoever said that it was talked about if I recall. He is probably still butt hurt he didn't get his own movie or show
Also, FTR, blonde Nebula is smokin'!
Max Power said:
I enjoyed it, was disappointed that Evans didn't voice Steve. Nothing over the top, a simple concept well executed. Listening to Bradley Whitford as the colonel I just kept hearing his character from Billy Madison, which made me giggle. Agree that it had an Iron Giant vibe, which I liked. Off to a good start.
looks like he has the Grandmaster's Orgy ship.
i liked both episodes, but enjoyed the 2nd one more. i think it was really smart to have these be the first two episodes though. it sets the tone that the "change" could range from having subtle impacts on the story to huge impacts.
crazy to think that by just giving t'challa a broader, universal stage completely neutralized the most significant threat of the entire infinity saga.
crazy to think that by just giving t'challa a broader, universal stage completely neutralized the most significant threat of the entire infinity saga.
jackie childs said:
crazy to think that by just giving t'challa a broader, universal stage completely neutralized the most significant threat of the entire infinity saga.
And yet also opens the door for Ego to Ego-form every planet in the galaxy. So does 100% of life now die instead of 50% ?
Thanks and gig'em
So much is changed by having T'Challa instead of Quill.AgTrip said:
Another thing I missed, no Gamora, no Rocket, no Groot. I get that it was more focused on the T'Challa story but with the GOTG tie-in, was at least hoping they made an appearance.
- Ravagers become the good guys
- they mention defeating Ronan and also convert Thanos, so Drax's family is supposedly saved I would guess.
- Depending on when Thanos' conversion happened, it is possible that Gamora's planet was "saved" (they were supposedly starving before Thanos cleaned it out). So she is never kidnapped
- Not sure how Nebula gets into the picture, maybe she came along before Gamora, so that part of the timeline remained?
- Rocket and Groot were a team collecting space bounties. They would presumably still be out there, just not part of the GOTG.
- Ego finds Quill and may presumably take over the galaxy...... (I wonder if the Ravagers could end up going on an infinity guantlet mission to stop Ego? that would be cool)
well, it's just one galaxy out of billions......Aggie_Journalist said:jackie childs said:
crazy to think that by just giving t'challa a broader, universal stage completely neutralized the most significant threat of the entire infinity saga.
And yet also opens the door for Ego to Ego-form every planet in the galaxy. So does 100% of life now die instead of 50% ?
Also, can you imagine the clusterf**** that happened in other galaxies with the snap, and the unsnap? There's no context at all for them. That could spawn all kinds of crazy religious zealotry.
You forgot that more than half of the universe will die due to overpopulation and overconsumption of resources.
This is specifically confirmed when Drax takes a picture with T'Challa to send to his wife and kidTexasAggie_02 said:So much is changed by having T'Challa instead of Quill.AgTrip said:
Another thing I missed, no Gamora, no Rocket, no Groot. I get that it was more focused on the T'Challa story but with the GOTG tie-in, was at least hoping they made an appearance.
- Ravagers become the good guys
- they mention defeating Ronan and also convert Thanos, so Drax's family is supposedly saved I would guess.
- Depending on when Thanos' conversion happened, it is possible that Gamora's planet was "saved" (they were supposedly starving before Thanos cleaned it out). So she is never kidnapped
- Not sure how Nebula gets into the picture, maybe she came along before Gamora, so that part of the timeline remained?
- Rocket and Groot were a team collecting space bounties. They would presumably still be out there, just not part of the GOTG.
- Ego finds Quill and may presumably take over the galaxy...... (I wonder if the Ravagers could end up going on an infinity guantlet mission to stop Ego? that would be cool)
Yet another example of me convincing my wife that it's OK for one of my 9 year olds to watch Marvel movies, then we turn on Ragnarok just when the orgy joke comes on.TexasAggie_02 said:
looks like he has the Grandmaster's Orgy ship.
Exact same thing happened during GOTG2 when Drax asks Ego about having a *****.
The epitome of everything TexAgs - I can call you a dick all day long, but I can't use the medical term for the male reproductive organ.
I thought T'Challa didn't know anything about the world outside of Wakanda. How did he know who Nelson Mandella was if he left earth in 1988? I assume that's who he named his ship after.
This was a fun episode. I'm enjoying this series so far. The animation is great.
This was a fun episode. I'm enjoying this series so far. The animation is great.
B/c Quill never went to Zandar and Gamora would have been probably on her home planet as it was not attacked by Thanos (I assume at least). This is supposed to be happening in 08. Regardless, Gamora went to Zandar to intercept the stone from Peter. And Rocket and Groot happen to get caught up in it all.AgTrip said:
Another thing I missed, no Gamora, no Rocket, no Groot. I get that it was more focused on the T'Challa story but with the GOTG tie-in, was at least hoping they made an appearance.
I think I am getting all of this right.
i mean, who knows, but wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back for peter that ego killed his mom? so i'm not sure that peter not being star lord would necessarily change thatAggie_Journalist said:jackie childs said:
crazy to think that by just giving t'challa a broader, universal stage completely neutralized the most significant threat of the entire infinity saga.
And yet also opens the door for Ego to Ego-form every planet in the galaxy. So does 100% of life now die instead of 50% ?
One thing I liked about episode 1 was that in that multiverse, it was all due to one tiny split-second decision which caused a butterfly effect.
This episode? Just completely arbitrary. There was no explanation given to how they picked up T'Challa, out of every young kid on Earth.
Didn't like that and kind of soured me on the whole episode a bit
This episode? Just completely arbitrary. There was no explanation given to how they picked up T'Challa, out of every young kid on Earth.
Didn't like that and kind of soured me on the whole episode a bit
The Watcher says that Yondu outsourced the job of picking up the kid to his subordinates (Kraglin and Taserface).Brian Earl Spilner said:
One thing I liked about episode 1 was that in that multiverse, it was all due to one tiny split-second decision which caused a butterfly effect.
This episode? Just completely arbitrary. There was no explanation given to how they picked up T'Challa, out of every young kid on Earth.
Didn't like that and kind of soured me on the whole episode a bit
They said they were using a machine to look for other-worldly material on Earth - ergo, the Celestial component that Ego passed onto Quill. Instead, it picked up the meteorite that hit the Earth in Wakanda and brought them all the vibranium. They followed the signal to the source, Kraglin says it almost blew the dial off their device - and they found T'Challa out running around in the dark - right size, right age, correct number of mouth holes, and picked him up.
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