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Accidental shooting on movie set
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powerbelly said:I doubt it. As long as he was following the safety procedures then he should be clear.Sea Speed said:
I assume there will be civil suits and baldwin could really lose his ass. A quick search shows an estimated net worth of 60 million.
I'm assuming the entire incident is on film. If so it will be easy to see if he was at fault. If the director was getting a shot where he fired at the camera, and said "action" and he pulled the trigger then I don't see any chance he's liable. Now the company in charge of props could be in deep dodo
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— AlecBaldwin(HABF) (@AlecBaldwin) October 22, 2021
There are no words to convey my shock and sadness regarding the tragic accident that took the life of Halyna Hutchins, a wife, mother and deeply admired colleague of ours. I'm fully cooperating with the police investigation to address how this tragedy occurred and
2- I am in touch with her husband, offering my support to him and his family. My heart is broken for her husband, their son, and all who knew and loved Halyna.
— AlecBaldwin(HABF) (@AlecBaldwin) October 22, 2021
Don't know how reliable this source is but apparently it's just come out that this was in fact a live round….not good
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/22/nolte-gun-safety-procedures-obviously-not-followed-on-alec-baldwin-set/
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/22/nolte-gun-safety-procedures-obviously-not-followed-on-alec-baldwin-set/
How does that even happen?jokershady said:
Don't know how reliable this source is but apparently it's just come out that this was in fact a live round….not good
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/22/nolte-gun-safety-procedures-obviously-not-followed-on-alec-baldwin-set/
There are 1000s of ways to have prevented this.
Unless Alec Baldwin sourced the ammunition and loaded it into the gun himself, he's not going to get sued or have charges pressed against him. Whoever is in charge of that for the movie is going to be sued, charged wtih something, and if they are an individual, they'll never work in Hollywood again, or if it's a company, they'll be Chapter 11 by December.
That is a crazy level of failure if true.jokershady said:
Don't know how reliable this source is but apparently it's just come out that this was in fact a live round….not good
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/22/nolte-gun-safety-procedures-obviously-not-followed-on-alec-baldwin-set/
The only scenario I can think of is that at some point they wanted a camera shot of a live round being used some other time in the film……and whoever was in charge of gun safety, prep, loading, all that stuff…..royally and I mean ROYALLY screwed up
Despite what some people might think of Alec (I don't care for him at all) until something specific comes out incriminating him you have to assume he's innocent in this and that the person(s) on set in charge of the weapons are the ones at fault here.
I would except before EVERY scene where a firearm is going to be used the powers in charge of those guns hand them to the actors and say, "safe and ready to use."
Despite what some people might think of Alec (I don't care for him at all) until something specific comes out incriminating him you have to assume he's innocent in this and that the person(s) on set in charge of the weapons are the ones at fault here.
I would except before EVERY scene where a firearm is going to be used the powers in charge of those guns hand them to the actors and say, "safe and ready to use."
I don't know man. He pulled the trigger. The amount of training these actors get when using guns is ridiculous. He should've known better. It's a colossal failure and multiple people ****ed up.helloimustbegoing said:
Unless Alec Baldwin sourced the ammunition and loaded it into the gun himself, he's not going to get sued or have charges pressed against him. Whoever is in charge of that for the movie is going to be sued, charged wtih something, and if they are an individual, they'll never work in Hollywood again, or if it's a company, they'll be Chapter 11 by December.
Anyone who has ever had ANY firearms training, would verify it for themselves.jokershady said:
The only scenario I can think of is that at some point they wanted a camera shot of a live round being used some other time in the film……and whoever was in charge of gun safety, prep, loading, all that stuff…..royally and I mean ROYALLY screwed up
Despite what some people might think of Alec (I don't care for him at all) until something specific comes out incriminating him you have to assume he's innocent in this and that the person(s) on set in charge of the weapons are the ones at fault here.
I would except before EVERY scene where a firearm is going to be used the powers in charge of those guns hand them to the actors and say, "safe and ready to use."
Id imagine with deep pockets like that he would at least be named in a suit. Seems to be the m.o. on lawsuits. Name anyone and everyone.
powerbelly said:That is a crazy level of failure if true.jokershady said:
Don't know how reliable this source is but apparently it's just come out that this was in fact a live round….not good
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/22/nolte-gun-safety-procedures-obviously-not-followed-on-alec-baldwin-set/
I'm assuming a close up with a revolver so they need to have rounds with bullets in the cylinder so it looks realistic. Now of course for all those the powder should have been removed and a blank in the chamber. Royal screw up
I say you're wrong here. Actors have to put a ton of trust and faith in the people around them.Kevin the 3-legged dog said:I don't know man. He pulled the trigger. The amount of training these actors get when using guns is ridiculous. He should've known better. It's a colossal failure and multiple people ****ed up.helloimustbegoing said:
Unless Alec Baldwin sourced the ammunition and loaded it into the gun himself, he's not going to get sued or have charges pressed against him. Whoever is in charge of that for the movie is going to be sued, charged wtih something, and if they are an individual, they'll never work in Hollywood again, or if it's a company, they'll be Chapter 11 by December.
Someone made a great point about this on the politics board for this news…..if the actors had to check every bullet before a scene where the gun was used they'd still be filming the first John wick movie…..if he did all he was told then this isn't on him.
He is also a producer, not just actor. I wonder whether that changes his liability.Sea Speed said:
Id imagine with deep pockets like that he would at least be named in a suit. Seems to be the m.o. on lawsuits. Name anyone and everyone.
The article you linked to is solely speculation and is presented as such.jokershady said:
Don't know how reliable this source is but apparently it's just come out that this was in fact a live round….not good
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/22/nolte-gun-safety-procedures-obviously-not-followed-on-alec-baldwin-set/
I get what you are saying, but actors are not experts and need to trust the experts.Kevin the 3-legged dog said:I don't know man. He pulled the trigger. The amount of training these actors get when using guns is ridiculous. He should've known better. It's a colossal failure and multiple people ****ed up.helloimustbegoing said:
Unless Alec Baldwin sourced the ammunition and loaded it into the gun himself, he's not going to get sued or have charges pressed against him. Whoever is in charge of that for the movie is going to be sued, charged wtih something, and if they are an individual, they'll never work in Hollywood again, or if it's a company, they'll be Chapter 11 by December.
Movies like John Wick would never be made if every actor had to be an expert in firearm props.
Like I said I've got no knowledge of how credible that source is….you'd hope information released would be credible with something like this but I guess websites want clicksdouble aught said:The article you linked to is solely speculation and is presented as such.jokershady said:
Don't know how reliable this source is but apparently it's just come out that this was in fact a live round….not good
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/22/nolte-gun-safety-procedures-obviously-not-followed-on-alec-baldwin-set/
Not sure about the sequels but I am pretty sure that the first John Wick uses CGI for their gunfights.powerbelly said:I get what you are saying, but actors are not experts and need to trust the experts.Kevin the 3-legged dog said:I don't know man. He pulled the trigger. The amount of training these actors get when using guns is ridiculous. He should've known better. It's a colossal failure and multiple people ****ed up.helloimustbegoing said:
Unless Alec Baldwin sourced the ammunition and loaded it into the gun himself, he's not going to get sued or have charges pressed against him. Whoever is in charge of that for the movie is going to be sued, charged wtih something, and if they are an individual, they'll never work in Hollywood again, or if it's a company, they'll be Chapter 11 by December.
Movies like John Wick would never be made if every actor had to be an expert in firearm props.
Fox News just reported as well that it was a live round.jokershady said:Like I said I've got no knowledge of how credible that source is….you'd hope information released would be credible with something like this but I guess websites want clicksdouble aught said:The article you linked to is solely speculation and is presented as such.jokershady said:
Don't know how reliable this source is but apparently it's just come out that this was in fact a live round….not good
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/22/nolte-gun-safety-procedures-obviously-not-followed-on-alec-baldwin-set/
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Yeah I don't think the actor is at any risk of culpability unless they did something negligent or playing with the props. I wouldn't even trust an actor to know what they're looking for with blanks, dummy loads, etc. Leave that to the experts.
I assume he wasn't in charge of the props department or loading the blanks. Now he, as a Producer is where I see the liability, but not him as the one who happened to pull the trigger on what he reasonably assumed, was not a live firearm.Sea Speed said:
I assume there will be civil suits and baldwin could really lose his ass. A quick search shows an estimated net worth of 60 million.
You absolutely don't trust the actors, but anyone with the sense of a billy goat will make sure they're not firing a live round when pointing a gun at someone.powerbelly said:I get what you are saying, but actors are not experts and need to trust the experts.Kevin the 3-legged dog said:I don't know man. He pulled the trigger. The amount of training these actors get when using guns is ridiculous. He should've known better. It's a colossal failure and multiple people ****ed up.helloimustbegoing said:
Unless Alec Baldwin sourced the ammunition and loaded it into the gun himself, he's not going to get sued or have charges pressed against him. Whoever is in charge of that for the movie is going to be sued, charged wtih something, and if they are an individual, they'll never work in Hollywood again, or if it's a company, they'll be Chapter 11 by December.
Movies like John Wick would never be made if every actor had to be an expert in firearm props.
Just my opinion.
That's easy to say, but movie props are made to look very realistic. Especially if this was a close-up of a revolver. Baldwin has very little firearm expertise (most likely), he has to trust that the expert is doing his job correctly when he is handed a prop gun.Kevin the 3-legged dog said:You absolutely don't trust the actors, but anyone with the sense of a billy goat will make sure they're not firing a live round when pointing a gun at someone.powerbelly said:I get what you are saying, but actors are not experts and need to trust the experts.Kevin the 3-legged dog said:I don't know man. He pulled the trigger. The amount of training these actors get when using guns is ridiculous. He should've known better. It's a colossal failure and multiple people ****ed up.helloimustbegoing said:
Unless Alec Baldwin sourced the ammunition and loaded it into the gun himself, he's not going to get sued or have charges pressed against him. Whoever is in charge of that for the movie is going to be sued, charged wtih something, and if they are an individual, they'll never work in Hollywood again, or if it's a company, they'll be Chapter 11 by December.
Movies like John Wick would never be made if every actor had to be an expert in firearm props.
Just my opinion.
Even with firearms experience, all it takes is a prop failure to put debris in the barrell, which a blank could then easily fire out as a deadly projectile.
All of this is completely pointless to talk about until the details are released by coroner and crime scene investigation. It will be months most likely.
Regardless of your thoughts on Baldwin or his stupid comments made about this very thing in the past. This is tragic.
All of this is completely pointless to talk about until the details are released by coroner and crime scene investigation. It will be months most likely.
Regardless of your thoughts on Baldwin or his stupid comments made about this very thing in the past. This is tragic.
Ignorance is not a defense.Quote:
Baldwin has very little firearm expertise (most likely)
That being said, yes, it is a tragedy and many people really ****ed up.
Kevin the 3-legged dog said:You absolutely don't trust the actors, but anyone with the sense of a billy goat will make sure they're not firing a live round when pointing a gun at someone.powerbelly said:I get what you are saying, but actors are not experts and need to trust the experts.Kevin the 3-legged dog said:I don't know man. He pulled the trigger. The amount of training these actors get when using guns is ridiculous. He should've known better. It's a colossal failure and multiple people ****ed up.helloimustbegoing said:
Unless Alec Baldwin sourced the ammunition and loaded it into the gun himself, he's not going to get sued or have charges pressed against him. Whoever is in charge of that for the movie is going to be sued, charged wtih something, and if they are an individual, they'll never work in Hollywood again, or if it's a company, they'll be Chapter 11 by December.
Movies like John Wick would never be made if every actor had to be an expert in firearm props.
Just my opinion.
Do Pitt and Jolie have to check every single one of the five thousand rounds they shot in Mr. and Mrs. Smith?
No way the actors are responsible for that.
I don't dislike them.
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Damn it, If you're going to post a tweet wrong, make sure the link is correct.
Seems like a cold open for Psych.
Nevermind, apparently that quote was faked.
Even if blanks were used, it could be lethal. Jon-Erik Hexum died on the set from a blank
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