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Halo fans are pretty much 99% male. Appealing to women was dumb and should have never been done. I don't care what anyone says, this was a terrible idea.

Halo is the polar opposite of Star Wars, it's basically Saving Private Ryan (the opening scene) combined with Band of Brothers combined with Stalingrad. It's brutality and genocide on a scale that can scarcely be fathomed. It's a war of complete desperation where humanity is fighting a demonstrably superior enemy with superior technology and more manpower. It should basically be a modern war movie, just in a sci-fi setting with spaceships.

Yes women will be soldiers just like men, but it's not like humanity has any choice. It's either fight or die, there are no other options. Trying to make Halo into something that it isn't was never going to workout well and I cannot fathom what the hell the executives are thinking.
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I am not mad about female spartans, I am mad it isn't Linda and Kelly
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I get wanting to include more women than the original games, etc. Simply: why try to sell something to 50% of the population when you can sell it to 100% of the population?
But there is an easy and right way to do it. They could of upset the patriarchy and still kept the same feel of Halo by making men Spartans, with a few exceptions, and women the entire command structure. I don't think anyone would care too much if someone like Keyes was gender swapped to be a woman.
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Quad Dog said:

I get wanting to include more women than the original games, etc. Simply: why try to sell something to 50% of the population when you can sell it to 100% of the population?
But there is an easy and right way to do it. They could of upset the patriarchy and still kept the same feel of Halo by making men Spartans, with a few exceptions, and women the entire command structure. I don't think anyone would care too much if someone like Keyes was gender swapped to be a woman.


The game had female soldiers everywhere, did you even play the games or read the books? There were female Spartans, female normal soldiers, female commanders. Holy Hell how are you this delusional? Halo has tons of existing characters to choose from but these idiot writers chose to make up their own and make a war for humanity's very survival about sexism.

If you don't know the source material then please kindly shut the **** up about it.
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Yeah women are represented highly across that entire universe. Dr. Halsey came up with the SPARTAN II program. There were a bunch of badass female Spartans like Linda and Kelly. A female Spartan II that dropped out during augmentation runs the Office of Naval Intelligence. Cortana, while an AI, if visualized as a gal. The characters and story are all there for equal representation.

Keyes doesn't need to be gender-swapped. His daughter Miranda is also a badass Naval Commander
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Dude, calm down. We are agreeing with each other.
Full disclosure: I played Halo 1,2,3 when they came out. We did spend more time doing warthog launches with grenades and rocket launchers on Silent Cartographer than diving into the mythos. Haven't played any of the new ones. Recently replayed 1 campaign with my son and it was awesome. Never read a Halo book.
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Quad Dog said:

Dude, calm down. We are agreeing with each other.
Full disclosure: I played Halo 1,2,3 when they came out. We did spend more time doing warthog launches with grenades and rocket launchers on Silent Cartographer than diving into the mythos. Haven't played any of the new ones. Recently replayed 1 campaign with my son and it was awesome. Never read a Halo book.


Then you don't really know any of the lore. Halo 4 and 5 along with all of the books really flesh out the universe and many of the characters.

Everything you said was pretty much wrong.
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Hope the female spartans' suits will be pink or lightish Griff red.
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https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/03/15/halo-tv-series-to-completely-change-master-chiefs-character-focus-on-quan-ah-for-human-perspective/

It just keeps getting worse lmao.

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Hot off the heels of the controversial announcement that the series' protagonist will be unmasked for his upcoming Paramount Plus debut, the Halo TV series has revealed that not only will their version of Master Chief be a near-completely different version of the iconic character, but that heavily advertised teenage female lead Quan Ah will be a focus of the series as she provides a "human perspective" on the story.


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As for the Master Chief himself, Kane asserted that his back story would be one of the elements to be changed in the series' jump from video games to television, changing the Master Chief from a highly-indoctrinated super-soldier brutally trained from childhood to fight on behalf of the United Nations Space Command to a mindless automaton whose memory has been erased and has his emotions actively suppressed.


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This is somehow 343's fault
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BAP Enthusiast said:

https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/03/15/halo-tv-series-to-completely-change-master-chiefs-character-focus-on-quan-ah-for-human-perspective/

It just keeps getting worse lmao.

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Hot off the heels of the controversial announcement that the series' protagonist will be unmasked for his upcoming Paramount Plus debut, the Halo TV series has revealed that not only will their version of Master Chief be a near-completely different version of the iconic character, but that heavily advertised teenage female lead Quan Ah will be a focus of the series as she provides a "human perspective" on the story.


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As for the Master Chief himself, Kane asserted that his back story would be one of the elements to be changed in the series' jump from video games to television, changing the Master Chief from a highly-indoctrinated super-soldier brutally trained from childhood to fight on behalf of the United Nations Space Command to a mindless automaton whose memory has been erased and has his emotions actively suppressed.



Who do they think wants this series? This is baffling.
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My only hope for this series now is for some good Red vs Blue material.
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CC09LawAg said:

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https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/03/15/halo-tv-series-to-completely-change-master-chiefs-character-focus-on-quan-ah-for-human-perspective/

It just keeps getting worse lmao.

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Hot off the heels of the controversial announcement that the series' protagonist will be unmasked for his upcoming Paramount Plus debut, the Halo TV series has revealed that not only will their version of Master Chief be a near-completely different version of the iconic character, but that heavily advertised teenage female lead Quan Ah will be a focus of the series as she provides a "human perspective" on the story.


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As for the Master Chief himself, Kane asserted that his back story would be one of the elements to be changed in the series' jump from video games to television, changing the Master Chief from a highly-indoctrinated super-soldier brutally trained from childhood to fight on behalf of the United Nations Space Command to a mindless automaton whose memory has been erased and has his emotions actively suppressed.



Who do they think wants this series? This is baffling.


Not you bigot! Halo is toxic masculinity and we must tear down the patriarchy…I mean the UNSC…I mean the Covenant!
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Halo fans are pretty much 99% male. Appealing to women was dumb and should have never been done. I don't care what anyone says, this was a terrible idea.

Halo is the polar opposite of Star Wars, it's basically Saving Private Ryan (the opening scene) combined with Band of Brothers combined with Stalingrad. It's brutality and genocide on a scale that can scarcely be fathomed. It's a war of complete desperation where humanity is fighting a demonstrably superior enemy with superior technology and more manpower. It should basically be a modern war movie, just in a sci-fi setting with spaceships.

Yes women will be soldiers just like men, but it's not like humanity has any choice. It's either fight or die, there are no other options. Trying to make Halo into something that it isn't was never going to workout well and I cannot fathom what the hell the executives are thinking.


You misunderstand. They aren't doing this to entertain a wide audience and make money. They are doing this as left-wing political propaganda. They know the show is going to fail. They don't care about that. A total failure is easily worth the cost to the left if it means they can co-opt a popular international brand and use it to push their agenda.

But setting politics aside, I agree with you 100%. Halo is a blue chip entertainment franchise. 343 missed on Halo 5, yes. But the lore, the universe, and the series as a whole are sacred to so many people and probably helped define two decades of their lives, irrespective of their profession or political views. I know that is the case for me. I remember playing Halo CE back in 2001-2003 during middle school and early high school. We had LAN parties and would play co-op campaign over and over. My friends and I all read the books to get jacked for Halo 2. Then Halo 2 came out my junior year of high school. Everybody was playing it and the online community was unmatched by anything else on console up to that point. Hell there was a year or so when the gaming nerds at my high school commanded real respect walking around the halls because everyone knew they were badass at Halo 2, and that was cooler than being on the football team. Then Halo 3 came out my sophomore year at A&M. It was even better than Halo 2, and that was like the one constant the rest of my time in college. ****ty day of class? Came home, drank beer, and played Halo 3 multiplayer with my roommates and our friends who were online. Finished taking a final? Came home, drank beer, and played Halo 3 with my roommates. Out at North Gate until 2 a.m.? Came home and played Halo 3 with my roommates. Hooked up with some chick I met at The Tap? Came back and played Halo 3 with my roommates. Watched the Ags beat the t-sips the day after Thanksgiving 2007, then went to the Chicken, then came back and played Halo 3 with my roommates. Halo Reach came out when I was in law school. I love that campaign, and the multiplayer helped me reconnect with friends I had always played Halo 3 with at A&M. Now I am a 34 year old lawyer with Fortune 100 companies trusting me to go fight over hundreds of millions of dollars for them in the courtroom, but I still play Halo MCC at least once a week, and I've beaten the Halo Infinite campaign multiple times. It will probably always have a place in my life

What they appear to be doing to the franchise with this TV series is downright disgusting. I remember when Peter Jackson signed on to do a Halo movie right after he finished Lord of the Rings, but everything ended up falling apart and the movie never got made. Like you and millions of others, I have waited decades hoping to see Halo brought to life in a way that does it justice. Like you said, even though the fan base is largely male due to the subject matter, the Halo universe was always completely inclusive from the beginning because it was never about pitting humans against each other over their petty differences on Earth. It was about the entire human race, regardless of race or gender, facing an overwhelming existential threat, with no choice left for any human being but to fight for survival. The universe was perfect. It didn't need to be changed at all. It just needed to be brought to life exactly the way it was.

And after the last 21 years, this bull**** is what we finally get? That's ****ing unforgivable. Everyone involved in this ****show can **** right off.
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Man, this is getting grim.
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jeffk said:

Man, this is getting grim.


This will be one of the biggest bombs ever. The only one that could be bigger is the Potential LOTR fiasco that may be coming.

Every decision that has been made is bad. There are zero upsides to anything that has been done. The odds of this show being even mediocre are basically negligible.
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Halo fans are pretty much 99% male. Appealing to women was dumb and should have never been done. I don't care what anyone says, this was a terrible idea.

Halo is the polar opposite of Star Wars, it's basically Saving Private Ryan (the opening scene) combined with Band of Brothers combined with Stalingrad. It's brutality and genocide on a scale that can scarcely be fathomed. It's a war of complete desperation where humanity is fighting a demonstrably superior enemy with superior technology and more manpower. It should basically be a modern war movie, just in a sci-fi setting with spaceships.

Yes women will be soldiers just like men, but it's not like humanity has any choice. It's either fight or die, there are no other options. Trying to make Halo into something that it isn't was never going to workout well and I cannot fathom what the hell the executives are thinking.


You misunderstand. They aren't doing this to entertain a wide audience and make money. They are doing this as left-wing political propaganda. They know the show is going to fail. They don't care about that. A total failure is easily worth the cost to the left if it means they can co-opt a popular international brand and use it to push their agenda.

But setting politics aside, I agree with you 100%. Halo is a blue chip entertainment franchise. 343 missed on Halo 5, yes. But the lore, the universe, and the series as a whole are sacred to so many people and probably helped define two decades of their lives, irrespective of their profession or political views. I know that is the case for me. I remember playing Halo CE back in 2001-2003 during middle school and early high school. We had LAN parties and would play co-op campaign over and over. My friends and I all read the books to get jacked for Halo 2. Then Halo 2 came out my junior year of high school. Everybody was playing it and the online community was unmatched by anything else on console up to that point. Hell there was a year or so when the gaming nerds at my high school commanded real respect walking around the halls because everyone knew they were badass at Halo 2, and that was cooler than being on the football team. Then Halo 3 came out my sophomore year at A&M. It was even better than Halo 2, and that was like the one constant the rest of my time in college. ****ty day of class? Came home, drank beer, and played Halo 3 multiplayer with my roommates and our friends who were online. Finished taking a final? Came home, drank beer, and played Halo 3 with my roommates. Out at North Gate until 2 a.m.? Came home and played Halo 3 with my roommates. Hooked up with some chick I met at The Tap? Came back and played Halo 3 with my roommates. Watched the Ags beat the t-sips the day after Thanksgiving 2007, then went to the Chicken, then came back and played Halo 3 with my roommates. Halo Reach came out when I was in law school. I love that campaign, and the multiplayer helped me reconnect with friends I had always played Halo 3 with at A&M. Now I am a 34 year old lawyer with Fortune 100 companies trusting me to go fight over hundreds of millions of dollars for them in the courtroom, but I still play Halo MCC at least once a week, and I've beaten the Halo Infinite campaign multiple times. It will probably always have a place in my life

What they appear to be doing to the franchise with this TV series is downright disgusting. I remember when Peter Jackson signed on to do a Halo movie right after he finished Lord of the Rings, but everything ended up falling apart and the movie never got made. Like you and millions of others, I have waited decades hoping to see Halo brought to life in a way that does it justice. Like you said, even though the fan base is largely male due to the subject matter, the Halo universe was always completely inclusive from the beginning because it was never about pitting humans against each other over their petty differences on Earth. It was about the entire human race, regardless of race or gender, facing an overwhelming existential threat, with no choice left for any human being but to fight for survival. The universe was perfect. It didn't need to be changed at all. It just needed to be brought to life exactly the way it was.

And after the last 21 years, this bull**** is what we finally get? That's ****ing unforgivable. Everyone involved in this ****show can **** right off.


Good post and I agree 100%. This garbage is going to be ripped apart worse than almost anything else ever has, including that female Ghostbusters movie along.

Why does everything have to push a political message nowadays?
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C@LAg said:

jeffk said:

Man, this is getting grim.
No. Grimm ran for 6 seasons.

This won't make it past one.


I had 100% memory-holed Grimm. Haha.
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Halo cosplay bad. His voice is too high pitch, it doesn't work at all.
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Sounds like Will Arnett doing Batman in the Lego movies.
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It was likely to bomb either way on paramount + or whatever the hell it is.

I'm getting to the point I'm not subscribing to all these Freaking apps. Too many now.
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jeffk said:

Sounds like Will Arnett doing Batman in the Lego movies.
Sounds like Dwayne Johnson when he's just talking low key....to me.
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Opening scene didn't suck.

I agree with the paramountish feel to it though.

If that were a 20 minute game trailer to a new Halo game it would have been the best trailer ever. Seeing as how it's the first 20 minutes of a $200mm series… ehhh.

Still watching.
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Also… I get it but I'm shocked that they went child genocide in the opening scene
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I can't get passed the fact that it's not Steve Downes as Master Chief's voice
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
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If I were a non Halo game player story canon individual I'd say .

My halo gripes are minimal. Surprisingly not bad at all . Sets were awesome , pacing was great , acting was solid ( biggest plus) .

Story is ok. It's got the political stuff I like it .

Wide shots of Spartans and Sangheli moving is sci fi channel level but other effects were clean especially vehicles . But damn the prophet of mercy looks like a dark crystal puppet.

Biggest gripe is the opening credits scene. It is terrible and so underwhelming.. I really wanted to get hype when I heard it and have it be iconic .

It's not ! More like I'm watching Halo Picard .

Game and literature canon is shot to hell and probably a big turnoff to the community. I'm one of those people. That review would take a while and end up with me sounding like an angry old man so I'll refrain . All in all I'll keep watching when I have time but not make time for it .

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I'm playing the Halo Infinite campaign right now and own the entire collection. Got the Master Chief collection free a while back. Played the first game but was underwhelmed. Maybe it was just too dated. I never realized there was that much lore to this game.

Seems pretty basic story from what I gather playing through this Infinite campaign. Granted, I've never played any of the other games other than some very brief MP when Halo first came out 20 years ago or whenever that was and my 1 hour or so with Halo 1 campaign.

Mild amusement moment for me was realizing MS Cortana assistant was named after this game. I never knew that.
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Game and literature canon is shot to hell and probably a big turnoff to the community. I'm one of those people.


i mean... the UNSC had rebels in outlier planets, spartans were sent to covertly kill uprisings with minimal damage. then the covenant started attacking.

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Nearly a hundred thousand years later in the 26th century, humanityunder the auspices of the United Nations Space Command, or UNSCcolonize many worlds thanks to the development of faster-than-light "slipspace" travel. Tensions between the government and colonies desiring independence sparks violent clashes. The UNSC sponsors the SPARTAN-II Project to create an elite group of enhanced supersoldiers, whose purpose is to suppress the rebellions covertly.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_(franchise)#cite_note-xbox.com-backstory-16][16][/url] In the year 2525, human worlds come under attack by a theocratic alliance of alien races known as the Covenant. The Covenant leadership declares humanity heretics and an affront to their gods the Forerunnersand begin a genocidal holy war. The Covenant's superior technology and numbers prove decisive advantages; though effective, the Spartans are too few in number to turn the tide of battle in humanity's favor. After the Covenant invade Reach, the UNSC's last major stronghold besides Earth, Master Chief John-117 is one of the few remaining Spartans left.



the history and canon were not THAT far off.

now John117 taking his helmet off and rescuing a little girl? sure. off canon and a disservice.
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All I do is Nguyen said:

I can't get passed the fact that it's not Steve Downes as Master Chief's voice
And that is Canon in my head lol. This guy sounds like a knockoff Dwayne Johnson
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Some of the plot choices are concerning, to put it nicely.
 
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