Severance (Apple TV)

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In reply to gigemJTH12 • 12:30p, 1/16/25
gigemJTH12 said:
so while I am rewatching I am questioning more.

how do they know what beaches, love making, etc(these are things mentioned in the first two episodes) and other things are but nothing about themselves or their lives.

I guess we assume Severance is able to remove their personal memories but not the ones where they learned things about the world?

This is talked about in the recap posted by Juan above. In the first 3 minutes as a setup of the show, they explain the different parts of memory and how the severed employees would know what a beach is, but not remember their drive into work. In the very first scene when they give Helly the survey, she can't remember her name but she could name the state of Delaware.
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In reply to gigemJTH12 • 12:52p, 1/16/25
gigemJTH12 said:
so while I am rewatching I am questioning more.

how do they know what beaches, love making, etc(these are things mentioned in the first two episodes) and other things are but nothing about themselves or their lives.

I guess we assume Severance is able to remove their personal memories but not the ones where they learned things about the world?
The innies still have some general factual knowledge about the world (e.g., Helly can name the state of Delaware), but no personal specifics (she doesn't remember the color of her mothers eyes)
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10:54p, 1/16/25
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Season 2, Episode 1 is out already and it was a great first episode! Can't wait for next Thursday night!

I'm ready to discuss with y'all what you think about the ending of the first episode is all about.
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12:06a, 1/17/25
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Dylan's obsession with Milchick ruining his belt had me lol. Also, Helly is seeming real suspicious and I'm thinking it could be her outtie.
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 12:12a, 1/17/25
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I took it as Helly just not wanting them to know she is partially to blame for their situation. Or her outie, but that's why she's so insistent that they're not the same.
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12:26a, 1/17/25
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We are so back...

I think we're supposed to be unsure whether or not Helly is actually Helena Eagen, and it may be a while before it's revealed. I do think it is Helly - but her emphasis that the innies and outies are not the same person with obvious disdain could go both ways for who was saying it. But it makes sense she wouldn't want to tell the team who she really is.

I think the newspaper article and them being famous on the outside and causing Severance reform is a lie. The paper was The Kier Chronicle. I loved all the blacked out redacted marks on it though.

The video with Keanu was so weird and amazing... Awesome first episode. Can't wait to see where this goes...
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 1:16a, 1/17/25
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I laughed a decent bit out loud this episode. I forgot how funny Dylan is.
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8:19a, 1/17/25
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Pretty clear from this screenshot that the newspaper is a fake. The picture of the group in the car is clearly the same photo that sits on their desks with some slight photoshopping (swapping Irv and Dylan).

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8:23a, 1/17/25
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Really good episode. The Helly question will be interesting to explore… as soon as she said "gardener" my wife said out loud "gardeners don't work at night…" and then Irv said the same.

Dylan's one liners make me crack up.

I feel like this show is building to a fever pitch in the way that Industry did… started off not getting much attention and then wham everyone is watching it. I started Apple TV like 2 weeks ago and it's crazy how much great content I have to catch up on.
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 8:25a, 1/17/25
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That newspaper talks about benediction being given by Dr Ricken Hale
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 8:29a, 1/17/25
That picture is ridiculous. Has to be from a ticker tape parade for Apollo astronauts in the 60s. The caption reads "Hero Lumon employees were celebrated on Sunday for exposing the nature of severed work"
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In reply to amg405 • 8:47a, 1/17/25
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amg405 said:
Really good episode. The Helly question will be interesting to explore… as soon as she said "gardener" my wife said out loud "gardeners don't work at night…" and then Irv said the same.
I think the central question is going to be whether it's Helly or Helena down there. I tend to think it's Helly and she's just ashamed to be an Eagan.

Also, calling Milchick Mr. Milkshake had me cackling
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In reply to Nolanmo13 • 9:05a, 1/17/25
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Nolanmo13 said:
I laughed a decent bit out loud this episode. I forgot how funny Dylan is.
So many hilarious exchanges.
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"Why are you a child?"

"Because of when I was born."

Quote:
"You poor up there, bro?"
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"You gonna apologize about the belt?"
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 9:30a, 1/17/25
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The first words to his best friend is "You poor up there bro?" I mean just comical stuff!
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10:37a, 1/17/25
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Dylan is hilarious because at first thought, everything he gets outraged about seems so random and inconsequential.

But this show always forces me to stop and reframe the way I'm thinking about things. To view it from their perspective. And suddenly his outrage seems 100% valid and important. I mean....they have no frame of reference for actual good food so to him "an egg bar is the best". They only know each other, Milchick, and Cobel, so to him "Burt is an outsider and therefore dangerous." And he doesn't get to choose what belt he wears everyday, so he probably watches the elevator doors open, wonders what belt his outie chose, and glances down at it. Does it so many times it becomes a sort of game to him.
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11:43a, 1/17/25
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I loved how they are playing this rebellion off as their plight to get marginally improved incentives.

The newspaper is definitely fake, but I wonder if that is the title of Ricken's other book. I assume not, but there were some theories about what is up with him and that could play into it.
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1:10p, 1/17/25
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Solid recap with some good theories I hadn't seen before.
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 1:11p, 1/17/25
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I watched it not that long ago. Really helped me remember last season.
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 3:33p, 1/17/25
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Teddy Perkins said:
Dylan's obsession with Milchick ruining his belt had me lol. Also, Helly is seeming real suspicious and I'm thinking it could be her outtie.


Either they brainwashed her innie, or her outie know who she is and doesn't want to sabotage the company. It could be a red herring, but I think she'll be the heel this season.
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 8:00p, 1/17/25
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Teddy Perkins said:


Pretty clear from this screenshot that the newspaper is a fake. The picture of the group in the car is clearly the same photo that sits on their desks with some slight photoshopping (swapping Irv and Dylan).

Im going to reply to this without reading the rest of this thread.
I had this thought when I watched it last night, that the photo was almost certainly a real photo from some parade in the past. Maybe a presidential motorcade parade?
I searched with google lens and found this.

https://www.loc.gov/item/2012646631/



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12:13a, 1/18/25
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In the opening scene when Mark goes to Wellness you can see someone watching him from the hallway in the background for a split second…was it Milchick?
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12:44a, 1/18/25
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Great episode. So glad to finally this show back.

Theory: Ms. Wong (the kid) is a younger clone of Ms. Casey (building off the theory someone had earlier in the thread about Ms. Casey potentially being a clone of Mark's wife.)
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 1:24a, 1/18/25
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Teddy Perkins said:
Solid recap with some good theories I hadn't seen before.


Just knocked that one out, which is definitely interesting, but then I followed it up with the one below, and I would argue it dives even deeper, is more comprehensive, and presents some pretty big theories for the show as a whole that feel so incredibly spot on, at least at this stage. I highly recommend giving it a watch as well…



Either way, I love having a show again that begs this kind of exploration. It feels very Lost-ish in that regard, and I can't wait to watch these recaps every week/discuss theories here in the thread over the next nine episodes.
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1:29a, 1/18/25
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In reply to TCTTS • 5:21a, 1/18/25
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TCTTS said:
Great episode. So glad to finally this show back.

Theory: Ms. Wong (the kid) is a younger clone of Ms. Casey (building off the theory someone had earlier in the thread about Ms. Casey potentially being a clone of Mark's wife.)


Thinking the same about the kid.
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7:13a, 1/18/25
Helly is def not innie helly. Ms Wong is def not fully a child
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7:50a, 1/18/25
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I think it's her innie, and she's just ashamed about who her outie is.
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10:50a, 1/18/25
Good, place-setting first episode. So glad to have this show back. As usual, lots of questions.

-Mrs Huang could be another piece of evidence for my half-baked clone theory I mentioned a few pages ago.
-Torn on whether Helly is actually her outtie or just embarrassed about who she really is. My initial thought was the latter after everybody else explained their experience, but I would think the innie Helly we saw from S1 would disclose that outtie identity so the group could use that info.
-Do we know what happened to Sobel or the baby?
- Lol at Milkshake. Lots of funny moments this episode.
-So I guess there are other MDR teams and departments? Did we know this already? I always assumed it was just our core four.
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In reply to Goldie Wilson • 11:10a, 1/18/25
I have not watched this episode yet, but in one of the S1 recaps I watched it referenced some extra info beyond the episodes themselves. Apparently the writers created some material I think was called the Lexington Letter which suggested there are additional MDR severed employees at another Lumon office location
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11:28a, 1/18/25
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They kept talking about a different branch, I took that to be a different office location
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In reply to ElephantRider • 11:40a, 1/18/25
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ElephantRider said:
I think it's her innie, and she's just ashamed about who her outie is.
Also, Helly likes Mark and is jealous of him caring about his outie's wife
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12:15p, 1/18/25
Way too obvious helly is Helena, only thing that gives pause is they made it so obvious. No cameras/mics bc Helena is there. Only info she didn't get is Irv's info about Burt, which is an odd part of the story that I have no doubt will somehow be important. What happened to make Irv come back when he was determined to leave?

They're not gonna keep the same main narrative for another season with the gang vs lumen.

Bet Helena develops a thing for innie Mark. All kinds of juice there between Mark innie outtie, Casey, Helena, and the Eagans.
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In reply to Goldie Wilson • 1:03p, 1/18/25
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Goldie Wilson said:
-Do we know what happened to Sobel or the baby?

The baby is fine, Ms. Sobel left her in a room and Mark found her right before he found the picture of him and Gemma/Ms. Casey

Don't know what happened to Ms. Sobel yet other than Milchick saying she doesn't work for Lumon anymore
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1:06p, 1/18/25
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Just want to post about how great a character Mr. Milchick is. He's so good in his role of being creepy/unsettling yet subtly hilarious.


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2:08p, 1/18/25
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I would assume any storyline you think is obvious is probably not occurring
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