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From the Arlington show. Packed it in there.
I was in the front row and sound was fine for Journey and Steve Miller Band. We could barely hear Joe Elliott on some songs for Def Leppard. Funny the guy above says he didn't know the first 5 songs of Journey, as for me it was the best 5 strong streak of their set.
1. Only the Young
2. Be Good to Yourself
3. Stone in Love
4. Ask the Lonely
5. Escape
I mean, come on. (Disclaimer I love Journey)
1. Only the Young
2. Be Good to Yourself
3. Stone in Love
4. Ask the Lonely
5. Escape
I mean, come on. (Disclaimer I love Journey)
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Speaking of outdoor stadium concerts, on plane to Portland to see FooFighters and Pretenders at Providence Park.
Blackstreet said:
I was in the front row and sound was fine for Journey and Steve Miller Band. We could barely hear Joe Elliott on some songs for Def Leppard. Funny the guy above says he didn't know the first 5 songs of Journey, as for me it was the best 5 strong streak of their set.
1. Only the Young
2. Be Good to Yourself
3. Stone in Love
4. Ask the Lonely
5. Escape
I mean, come on. (Disclaimer I love Journey)
I love Journey too, however, I think that his comment was that the mix was so garbled that it was hard to figure out what it was until Arnel started singing.
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Thinking about taking my daughter to see DL, Journey, and SMB at Chase Field on the 23rd. Last time I saw DL Steve Clark was still alive. Never seen Journey or SMB. Is it really Journey though if there's only 1 original member in the band?
Def Leppard plays with 2 "original" members. Foreigner plays with no original members. Styx with 1 original member. You're going to have a very hard time seeing bands from that era with mostly original members. Go to the concert.
There's 3 original Def Leppard members still in the band. Rick Allen didn't play on the first EP but he's been on every full length release so IMO he is absolutely an original member.
I would argue Jonathan Cain is an "original" member for Journey based on success with him writing and playing on most of their biggest hits. So technically they have 2 "original members". Steve Perry wasn't an original member technically but of course is considered one as above. This original member argument gets old. Enjoy the music and performance in its current form or don't. Many still do but It's ok if you don't. My point is the music and performances are still masterful in many ways and enjoyable with current members.
Neil Peart wasn't an original member of Rush. I guess everyone was seeing a tribute band for 39 of their 40 years on the road.
Know Your Enemy said:
There's 3 original Def Leppard members still in the band. Rick Allen didn't play on the first EP but he's been on every full length release so IMO he is absolutely an original member.
And Phil Collen joined during the recording of Pyromania. So not an "original" member, but there for basically all of their major success.
Yes, that is what I meant.JYDog90 said:Blackstreet said:
I was in the front row and sound was fine for Journey and Steve Miller Band. We could barely hear Joe Elliott on some songs for Def Leppard. Funny the guy above says he didn't know the first 5 songs of Journey, as for me it was the best 5 strong streak of their set.
1. Only the Young
2. Be Good to Yourself
3. Stone in Love
4. Ask the Lonely
5. Escape
I mean, come on. (Disclaimer I love Journey)
I love Journey too, however, I think that his comment was that the mix was so garbled that it was hard to figure out what it was until Arnel started singing.
RIP Jack Russell of Great White-- get the tickets people!
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He was having fun. Now he's having un-fun.
RIP.
RIP.
I was shocked to hear he was in his early 60's. He looked way older than that.
Know Your Enemy said:
I was shocked to hear he was in his early 60's. He looked way older than that.
Hard living will do that.
yeah he moved a bit slow as well due to a combination of addiction and back injury from a fall off stage. Then he got Parkinson's.Know Your Enemy said:
I was shocked to hear he was in his early 60's. He looked way older than that.
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this is why this argument or statement is silly. 'Original lineup' doesn't relate to 'most successful lineup' a large chunk of the time.maroon barchetta said:
Neil Peart wasn't an original member of Rush. I guess everyone was seeing a tribute band for 39 of their 40 years on the road.
The pantera everyone knows and loves wasn't original members. The metallica everyone knows and loves, regardless of which bass player era, isn't original members.
This list can go on and on.
Now, when there are no members left from the bands commercial and/or critical peak, or for a more extreme example, all current members are from well after any period of success from the band, then it's def. different, and in some twisted world, maybe that's what some people mean by 'original members'. That is kind of a tribute band.
Like if Dave left megadeth and some other singer joined, and even if they released albums, you hardly have megadeth.
Going to see Juvenile and the 400 Degreez Band tonight at White Oak. Was originally scheduled for the lawn but got moved inside which is great news.
Well his name didn't age well!WES2006AG said:
Going to see Juvenile
More like middle aged man amiright?
Pantera is a bad example and Metallica is even worse. Kirk has been on every ****ing album so he's an "original member" and Phil Anselmo was in the band well before they released their first major label album so it's kind of dumb to not consider him an "original member" too.
Yea, seems quite shortsighted now that he is almost 50.62strat said:Well his name didn't age well!WES2006AG said:
Going to see Juvenile
More like middle aged man amiright?
Sponge only has one original member left.
so you are agreeing with using the term 'original' as meaning the period when they were successful?Know Your Enemy said:
Pantera is a bad example and Metallica is even worse. Kirk has been on every ****ing album so he's an "original member" and Phil Anselmo was in the band well before they released their first major label album so it's kind of dumb to not consider him an "original member" too.
How about we don't use the term 'original'. Because in no world is phil an original member; they had 3 albums before phil. Same with journey and steve perry
Use the term 'classic lineup' if that's what you are trying to convey.
Pantera's classic line up is what we all know. Journey's classic line up is what we all know. Neither were comprised of all original members
Sure you have some bands that might have a member or two swap out during their successful periods, like ac/dc with bon and with Brian and their drummer and bass player. Or metallica with cliff and with jason, eagles with meisner and schmidt, and then adding walsh.
But you can differentiate those if necessary for the conversation.
and tell Dave that kirk is an original member of metallica lol. Kirk has no credits on KEA, dave has several. hell even on RTL dave still has 2 credits while kirk has just 4.
Is Randy Rhoads an original member of Quiet Riot? This argument is ****ing dumb.
yes?Know Your Enemy said:
Is Randy Rhoads an original member of Quiet Riot? This argument is ****ing dumb.
This doesn't help whatever you're trying to argue.
If they weren't part of the 'original' lineup, then they aren't original. Original members may or may not be a part of the 'classic lineup' which is the lineup most people think about of a band because at that time the band had large success.
It's really not hard.
Know Your Enemy said:
Pantera is a bad example and Metallica is even worse. Kirk has been on every ****ing album so he's an "original member" and Phil Anselmo was in the band well before they released their first major label album so it's kind of dumb to not consider him an "original member" too.
You seem confused on what the word "original" means
You realize most bands go through lineup changes before they ever release their first album. So in your scenario someone can be on every album a band releases but still would be an original member. Seems asinine to me but then again this whole discussion is stupid.
I don't care if a band only has the first cousin of the original drummer and 4 new guys under 20 years old. If they're the "official" version of the band and they sound like the record, I'm buying a ticket.
Getting this back on track… saw Coheed and Cambria tonight in Richmond. Oh yeah, Primus was there, too. Puddles Pity Party (look him up on YouTube if you're unfamiliar) opened things up and stole the show even came back and did a cover of Holy Diver with Primus.
Perhaps the weirdest lineup I've ever personally seen but was an awesome show!
Perhaps the weirdest lineup I've ever personally seen but was an awesome show!
Metallica was good last night. Looking forward to one more tomorrow night.
I see they slimmed up their setlist by a song.El Chupacabra said:
Metallica was good last night. Looking forward to one more tomorrow night.
Dudes are getting old.
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Yeah but were they original members? I kid, I kid.
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