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***** Stranger Things: Season 5 *****

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I want to believe
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setsmachine said:

My 18 year old is a full on Conformity Gate conspiracy theorist. I highly doubt it but would be cool
Same. I'm skeptical, but my teenager believes. Would love to believe it. It would be amazing.
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I feel like y'all are giving the duffers way too much credit
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Agreed. Even if some of the other symbolism or Easter Eggs are real, doesn't mean there's new stuff. It could just be out there to create interpretations of the ending. Also, seriously doubt they would have people paying to go to a theater for a fake finale. That doesn't make sense. The ending wraps it up. People that didn't like it are coping or people want more and trying to convince themselves.
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setsmachine said:

My 18 year old is a full on Conformity Gate conspiracy theorist. I highly doubt it but would be cool

The only show I know that pulled this sort of heist off was Bluey with an episode literally called "Surprise!" after their first 27-minute episode to end the show's third season.
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Can one of you help an old out and give me a quick summary of conformity gate? I just spent 10 minutes on Twitter following tags and I have no idea. Is the entire epilogue supposed to simply be an illusion, and Vecna is still controlling it?
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Did the Escape the Dark Stranger Things at the Dallas Netflix House yesterday with my youngest and had more fun that I was expecting....

It's like a haunt mixed with a scavenger hunt, but pretty high quality
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jenn96 said:

Can one of you help an old out and give me a quick summary of conformity gate? I just spent 10 minutes on Twitter following tags and I have no idea. Is the entire epilogue supposed to simply be an illusion, and Vecna is still controlling it?

I saw one Pic and it was about the way everyone sat at graduation. Which is how anyone sits at any graduation, so to me it's just a bunch of BS. Seemed more like people over analyzing something and forcing an agenda.
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My basic understanding is that people think there are hidden clues / easter eggs in the final episode which point to Vecna having "won" and is controlling the main character's minds.

Off the top of my head I think the clues are different colored wheel at radio station, all students sitting like vecna at graduation, different colored gowns at graduation (not correct school colors).

I don't really understand why everyone thinks a new episode will be released today - but it is an intriguing idea.

The rational part of my brain thinks no way could the cast/crew pull this off for a multitude of reasons, but it would be incredibly epic imo if they did it.
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One thing I have learned over the last couple of weeks is that younger stranger things fans are absolutely psychotic, obsessive and protective over the characters of the show. I think I shared one ST tweet somewhere and they have been popping up on my TL since and the people are absolutely obsessed in a very unhealthy way about this show.
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Last episode was better than I was expecting given the moaning I saw online.

The absolute worst part of the whole episode was the Jonathan, Steven, Nancy, Robbin reunion atop the station. Good lord everything about that dialogue and "acting" was absolutely god awful.



Started out as a pretty epic show. Ended on an average note which always makes it feel worse when the high level had been set.


Nowhere close to GOT in terms of self immolation. So all of that nonsense needs to go away.
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Squadron7 said:

I get that coming out in 1987 was a bigger deal than it is now.

Or is it?

I mean, he came out and there was literally zero hesitation followed 100% immediate acceptance on everyone's part.

I seems like you can choose one or the other...but not both.



That was my reaction. There would be no group that large in 1987 where at LEAST one person would NOT have been fine with it.

They treated it like it was 2015.

I say that because in 2025 Will would have "come out" at age 3.
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On the other hand, I wouldn't be willing to say anything with his mom right there. she's crazy and has an axe.
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DargelSkout said:

jenn96 said:

Can one of you help an old out and give me a quick summary of conformity gate? I just spent 10 minutes on Twitter following tags and I have no idea. Is the entire epilogue supposed to simply be an illusion, and Vecna is still controlling it?

I saw one Pic and it was about the way everyone sat at graduation. Which is how anyone sits at any graduation, so to me it's just a bunch of BS. Seemed more like people over analyzing something and forcing an agenda.


Some of the videos on it are super compelling.

A LOT of strange coincidences and character quotes that are eerie
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It's been a solid series, but absolutely nothing the show has done points to a secret final episode with clues spread throughout the previous episodes that turns everything on it's head.

The show was a lot of really good things, but clever was never one of them.

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I disagree… There was a tremendous head fake in season four

We all thought Eleven killed all those kids

Then it was another one with the reveal of One as Vecna / Henry
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Daveintx said:

Did the Escape the Dark Stranger Things at the Dallas Netflix House yesterday with my youngest and had more fun that I was expecting....

It's like a haunt mixed with a scavenger hunt, but pretty high quality

I've been wanting to go to that
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I was annoyed with the conclusion of Dustin's Valedictorian speech where he basically says "F you" to the "system" and flips off the principal. It was juvenile pandering that had nothing to do with the entire series or any of the experiences of the main characters. Am I forgetting an episode where the kids were being oppressed by teachers or school admins? When did Dustin have a hard time in school? The only teacher with a modestly significant role, their science teacher, helped the kids many times throughout the series, even joining them to defeat Vecna. It was so stupid and completely out of bounds with all the episodes that preceded it.

All the kids had good relationships with their parents, too. It was just one big WTF?

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If this is a fake episode, then it was created by Vecna and influenced by Eddie, not the real Dustin

It does feel like something was off - really curious about this announcement coming tomorrow!?
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I think it was homage to Eddie - Eddie told the Hellfire kids he was going to flip off the principal and grab his diploma and run away when he finally graduated.

Granted, I rolled my eyes at Eddie when he said it because it was such "ooh what a rebel" bluster but Dustin was pretty clearly calling back to that.
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jenn96 said:

I think it was homage to Eddie - Eddie told the Hellfire kids he was going to flip off the principal and grab his diploma and run away when he finally graduated.

Granted, I rolled my eyes at Eddie when he said it because it was such "ooh what a rebel" bluster but Dustin was pretty clearly calling back to that.

Ah, I had forgotten about that. Thx.
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Sex Panther said:

Sadie Sink is definitely going to be the biggest star. She's a good actress (mostly) and has an it factor. Not bad for a kid from Brenham.

I did not realize she was 23. My first thought was "that's insane"...but then I quickly remembered it was generally pretty common to see people in their 20's play HS aged kids in the 80's and 90's.
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Coppell97 said:



I don't get it...who is conforming? Will is openly gay and headed for San Fran most likely...the friends are shunning a popular graduation party to do what they love (play D&D)...nancy dropped out of school and is pursuing her passions etc etc. To me, the point almost seemed to be to show how they are NOT conforming?
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93MarineHorn said:

I was annoyed with the conclusion of Dustin's Valedictorian speech where he basically says "F you" to the "system" and flips off the principal. It was juvenile pandering that had nothing to do with the entire series or any of the experiences of the main characters. Am I forgetting an episode where the kids were being oppressed by teachers or school admins? When did Dustin have a hard time in school? The only teacher with a modestly significant role, their science teacher, helped the kids many times throughout the series, even joining them to defeat Vecna. It was so stupid and completely out of bounds with all the episodes that preceded it.

All the kids had good relationships with their parents, too. It was just one big WTF?



I felt the same way...then I thought about it and realized it was probably a tribute to Eddie who lived his life that way but was an amazing person in the areas that mattered. These kids have also seen enugh crazy sh** to realize high school graduation speeches and so many things we place high value on, are basically worthless. I would imagine the curtain is lifted to a certain degree, after going through what they went through, and you realize a lot of things are just a facade.

But i wish it had been done differently...was super cringey and a turn off. Bad execution imo.
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1981 Monte Carlo said:

Coppell97 said:



Am I ******ed? Can someone explain this to me?

People think there's a secret 9th episode that Netflix is dropping tomorrow based on a lot of clues - some sort of interesting, some just knucklehead Internet stuff. The Duffers are apparently announcing something tomorrow, most assume it's the prequel that involves the events of the play that led to young Henry braining the Russian scientist that we see in the last couple of episodes.

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

Coppell97 said:



I don't get it...who is conforming? Will is openly gay and headed for San Fran most likely...the friends are shunning a popular graduation party to do what they love (play D&D)...nancy dropped out of school and is pursuing her passions etc etc. To me, the point almost seemed to be to show how they are NOT conforming?


How else do you hold your hands when sitting? Put them behind your head? Let them hang loose at your side? That's really the only way to sit.

X A LIE could just as easily be MULTI or any other combination of letters.

Vickie and Suzy disappearing....Suzy disappeared well before the epilogue. I can't even remember the last time Dustin mentioned her, but it was well before this season even started.

As for them all looking like Mr. Wheeler...why would Vecna have any interest in making them all look like Mr. Wheeler? For what purpose?
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I did read an article that said the x a lie image has been altered and isn't how the books were lined up

Too lazy to go back and check
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nosoupforyou said:

I disagree… There was a tremendous head fake in season four

We all thought Eleven killed all those kids

Then it was another one with the reveal of One as Vecna / Henry


That's less of a head fake and more of a "how do we extend this show out further now that the mind flayer is played out?".
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Proposition Joe said:

nosoupforyou said:

I disagree… There was a tremendous head fake in season four

We all thought Eleven killed all those kids

Then it was another one with the reveal of One as Vecna / Henry


That's less of a head fake and more of a "how do we extend this show out further now that the mind flayer is played out?".

hardcore disagree, Season 4 was all-time great TV
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That's correct, the image was altered my 12 year old confirmed on her way down the conformity gate rabbit hole
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lol - right after I posted that I was like f it, I'll just look it up. But then I couldn't remember my netflix password at work and gave up.
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T dizl televizl said:

lol - right after I posted that I was like f it, I'll just look it up. But then I couldn't remember my netflix password at work and gave up.

The notebooks are Max, Lucas, Dustin, Will, and Mike. The image floating around twitter reversed Will and Dustin's notebooks.

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CharleyKerfeld said:

Proposition Joe said:

nosoupforyou said:

I disagree… There was a tremendous head fake in season four

We all thought Eleven killed all those kids

Then it was another one with the reveal of One as Vecna / Henry


That's less of a head fake and more of a "how do we extend this show out further now that the mind flayer is played out?".

hardcore disagree, Season 4 was all-time great TV


Season 4 dragged on and on and was the point it became obvious they didn't have enough to truly fill both seasons 4 and 5.
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AJ02 said:

1981 Monte Carlo said:

Coppell97 said:



I don't get it...who is conforming? Will is openly gay and headed for San Fran most likely...the friends are shunning a popular graduation party to do what they love (play D&D)...nancy dropped out of school and is pursuing her passions etc etc. To me, the point almost seemed to be to show how they are NOT conforming?


How else do you hold your hands when sitting? Put them behind your head? Let them hang loose at your side? That's really the only way to sit.

X A LIE could just as easily be MULTI or any other combination of letters.

Vickie and Suzy disappearing....Suzy disappeared well before the epilogue. I can't even remember the last time Dustin mentioned her, but it was well before this season even started.

As for them all looking like Mr. Wheeler...why would Vecna have any interest in making them all look like Mr. Wheeler? For what purpose?

I don't even understand this? How do Nancy and Karen Wheeler "look like" Mr. Wheeler in that photo? What does that even mean?

I also have no clue what "x is a lie" is supposed to mean.

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